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The business of open source - Caleb Porzio (Livewire) and Taylor Otwell (Laravel)

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Is web development still a good career choice in 2025? What's the future of open source? Justin and Brian dive deep with Taylor Otwell (Laravel) and Caleb Porzio (Livewire, Alpine.js, Flux) about the state of web dev, building a business on open source, and the anxiety of managing competition.

Chapters:

  • (03:31) - Should people still pursue web development as a career?
  • (11:04) - Are we still excited about the web? Why is Laravel growing?
  • (16:27) - How big are your customers?
  • (25:23) - How interested are developers on the business side of Saas?
  • (34:39) - How did you think about open source when you were getting started?
  • (41:19) - How do you think about being a creator when you have a large business?
  • (55:57) - The next generation pipeline
  • (01:00:47) - Rethinking open source
  • (01:10:52) - What's your anxiety level towards competition?

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    • 🚀 Laravel
    • 🧑‍💻 Laravel is hiring
    • 🐙 Livewire
    • 🎸 Alpine.js
    • ✨ Flux
    • 🏗️ Instrumental Rails Components
    • 🎙️ Transistor podcast hosting
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