The Centre for Healing Podcast

The Centre for Healing Podcast

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The Centre for Healing Podcast episodes

  • Conscious Aware Parenting, A trauma Aware Approach with Lael Stone

    In this powerful and insightful episode, Matt sits down with renowned parenting expert Lael Stone, an educator, author, TEDx speaker, and the founder of Woodline Primary School — a pioneering institution built on the principles of emotional wellbeing, conscious education, and trauma-informed care.

    Together, Matt and Lael explore the profound ways in which our own early experiences — especially birth and childhood trauma — shape the way we parent. Lael shares wisdom from her background in birth work and parenting education, and offers practical, heartfelt guidance on how parents can begin to heal their own wounds in order to show up as emotionally attuned, regulated caregivers.

    This episode is essential listening for anyone on the parenting journey, as well as therapists, educators, or anyone working with children and families.

    Topics Covered:

    • Lael’s personal journey from birth work to parenting education

    • How birth trauma impacts a mother’s experience and connection with her child

    • Why emotional safety and attunement are vital in early childhood

    • Understanding intergenerational trauma and how it’s passed on

    • The healing power of rupture and repair in relationships

    • Emotional regulation and presence as a foundation for conscious parenting

    • How trauma-informed education can transform the lives of children and families

      ✨ Key Takeaways:

      • Birth experiences leave lasting imprints — healing begins with awareness

      • Unresolved trauma can be unconsciously passed down to our children

      • Children thrive when parents can hold space for big feelings with compassion

      • Parenting isn't about perfection — it’s about presence, repair, and connection

      • Emotionally-aware parenting and education have the power to change generational patterns

        🌐 Connect with Lael Stone:
        🔗 www.laelstone.com.au
        🔗 Woodline Primary School

        57 min
      • Transforming trauma through Being Awake Presence with Marlies Myoku Cocheret

        In this deeply moving episode, Matt sits down with Marlies Myoku Cocheret — a trained psychologist, Hakomi practitioner, and spiritual teacher — to explore the intersection of trauma, embodiment, and awakening.

        Marlies shares her powerful personal journey, including her awakening experiences, her healing path through trauma, and the transformative moment of receiving a kidney transplant. Through it all, she speaks from the grounded wisdom of “Being Presence,” offering profound insights into how we can meet the raw vulnerability of our humanness with deep compassion.

        Whether you're a practitioner, seeker, or simply curious about the path of awakening, this conversation offers a heartfelt invitation into authenticity, presence, and the beauty of what it means to be fully human.

        ✨ Key Topics & Takeaways:

        • Marlies’ journey through trauma, illness, and awakening

        • The role of the body and presence in true healing

        • How trauma therapy becomes transformational when rooted in presence and attunement

        • Different forms of awakening: sudden vs. gradual experiences

        • The ongoing integration of awakening in daily, messy, human life

        • The power of simplicity, stillness, and allowing in the therapeutic space

          🌐 Resources & Links:
          Connect with Marlies and explore her offerings:
          👉 www.marliescocheret.com

          1 hr 4 min
        • Integration Experience with Melissa (Day 2)

          Overview:

          • This is the second day of an "integration experience" event, focused on what happens after the initial healing breakthroughs.
          • The discussion covers the importance of integration and supporting the process after transformative healing work.
          • Different modalities are represented, including Root Cause Therapy, InBody Processing, and trauma-informed manifestation coaching.
          • The key themes are creating safety, processing emotions/trauma, integrating fragmented parts of the self, and transitioning into a more empowered, creative state.

            • Key Topics:

            1. Fragmented Parts of the Self:
              • Discusses how certain emotions/behaviors get suppressed or disconnected from the self due to lack of safety in childhood.
              • These "orphan parts" need to be integrated back into wholeness through the healing process.
              • Emphasizes the importance of approaching these parts with curiosity and compassion, not judgment.
                1. The Healing Process:
                  • Outlines the stages of the healing work - establishing safety and capacity, processing the root causes, and integrating the fragmented parts.
                  • Highlights the importance of the "post-processing" or integration phase, where emotions, realizations and physical effects continue to unfold.
                  • Encourages nourishing practices and self-care during this integration period.
                    1. Inner Child/Subpersonality Work:
                      • Discusses the value of reconnecting with and re-parenting our inner child/subpersonality parts.
                      • Emphasizes the need to provide the care, understanding and support that may have been lacking originally.
                      • This helps emotionally mature and integrate these disowned aspects of self.
                        1. Manifestation and Empowerment:
                          • Explains how the healing work changes the internal world, while manifestation work changes the external world.
                          • Encourages participants to become "creators" of their lives, not just perpetual "healers."
                          • Highlights the importance of having a clear intention and addressing any limiting beliefs or trauma blocks.
                            1. Ongoing Integration and Self-Care:
                              • Provides examples of helpful practices during integration, such as movement, nature, creativity, rest, etc.
                              • Emphasizes the need for flexibility and self-compassion, as the integration process is not linear.
                              • Encourages participants to find what is most nourishing for them personally.

                                • Overall, the discussion emphasizes the vital importance of the integration phase after transformative healing work. It provides a holistic, trauma-informed perspective on supporting this process through various modalities and self-care practices.

                                1 hr 6 min
                              • Integration Experience with Ryan and Matt (Day 1)

                                Overview:

                                • This was the first day of an Integration Workshop hosted by Ryan Hassan and Matt Kay.
                                • Ryan and Matt introduced themselves and their background in healing work, particularly their modality called Embodied Processing.
                                • The main focus of the discussion was on the process of integration - what it is, why it's important, and how to approach it.

                                  • Key Topics:

                                  1. The Creation of Orphaned Parts:
                                    • Experiences that we cannot properly process or digest can lead to the creation of "orphaned parts" - disowned or fragmented aspects of ourselves.
                                    • This happens when we go into heightened emotional/nervous system states that we don't have the resources to fully process at the time, especially in childhood.
                                    • These unprocessed experiences then lead to beliefs, narratives and protective behaviors that become split off from our whole sense of self.
                                      1. The Integration Process:
                                        • Integration is the process of welcoming these orphaned parts back into the whole, restoring a sense of wholeness and self-acceptance.
                                        • It involves tracing back to find the root causes or originating events where these parts were created, and then working to safely reintegrate them.
                                        • The process is highly individual and can take varying amounts of time for different parts to fully integrate.
                                          1. Traps and Obstacles to Integration:
                                            • The main trap is wanting the integration process to be "done" before it is ready, rushing through it.
                                            • This can lead to re-traumatization and a lack of true integration.
                                            • Patience, self-compassion, and creating the right conditions for integration to unfold naturally are key.
                                              1. Facilitating the Integration Process:
                                                • Practices like journaling, spending time in nature, engaging creativity, and having supportive relationships can aid the integration process.
                                                • Building capacity and resilience to be able to be with difficult emotions and experiences is also important.
                                                • The orientation of turning towards parts with compassion, rather than rejecting or trying to fix them, is essential.
                                                  1. Measuring Integration:
                                                    • There are stages of integration, from unconscious incompetence to unconscious competence, that indicate the degree of integration.
                                                    • Full integration is not a fixed endpoint, but an ongoing process of refining and deepening one's relationship to different aspects of self.

                                                      • Overall, the discussion emphasized the importance of patience, self-compassion, and an attitude of allowing the integration process to unfold at its own pace, rather than trying to force or rush it. The facilitators provided valuable insights and guidance on navigating this journey.

                                                      1 hr 17 min
                                                    • Supporting Addicted Loved Ones with Counsellor Rainbow
                                                      Summary:

                                                      In this powerful episode, Rainbow Glitter Shiva opens up about her deeply personal journey through addiction—both her own and that of her husband, who faced significant mental health and substance use challenges. She candidly discusses the emotional toll on families and the urgent need for more integrated and compassionate support systems.

                                                      Rainbow highlights the disconnection between the mental health and addiction fields, stressing how the failure to recognise their interconnected nature often leads to ineffective treatment. Drawing from her lived experience, she created the "Families Unite" program, which supports families impacted by addiction through education around communication, enabling, co-dependency, and the critical need for personal change within the family unit.

                                                      The conversation underscores the importance of addressing trauma, emotional wounds, and generational patterns—not just the addiction itself—for lasting healing. Ryan and Rainbow explore the barriers that prevent families from seeking support, including stigma, lack of access, and emotional illiteracy.

                                                      Rainbow also shares the symbolic transformation behind her name change, representing a rebirth after profound personal loss and growth.

                                                      Key Insights:

                                                      • Addiction and mental health issues are often treated in isolation—yet are deeply connected.

                                                      • Family dynamics, especially enabling and co-dependency, play a vital role in the cycle of addiction.

                                                      • There's a lack of accessible, trauma-informed, and family-focused support services.

                                                      • Emotional education, starting from a young age, can help break generational patterns.

                                                      • Healing is possible through community, compassion, and empowerment.

                                                        Notable Quotes:

                                                        "There must be a middle ground. Yet he was a bit far gone and he wasn't quite seeing the middle ground, and that dissolved in a big blaze of glory."
                                                        "I learned how to read people, how to communicate with them properly. How to run groups. I love running groups."
                                                        "It's more the mums, but they get a lot of guilt. And they get a lot of shame. And it's like, what did I do wrong? And they can blame themselves as well."
                                                        "Addiction starts with pain and ends with pain – that's an Eckhart Tolle quote, by the way."
                                                        "Blame is a mechanism that will keep us stuck in whatever we're in."

                                                        Connect with Rainbow Glitter Shiva:

                                                        🌐 Website: https://walkandtalkwithrainbow.com.au
                                                        📘 Facebook: Rainbow Glitter Shiva on Facebook

                                                        39 min
                                                      • The Integration of Non Duality and Somatic Trauma Work with Lynn Marie Lumiere

                                                        Episode Overview:
                                                        In this powerful and heartfelt episode, Matt speaks with Lynn Marie Lumiere, a psychotherapist, trauma specialist, and author of Awakened Relating. Lynn Marie brings decades of experience in somatic therapy, EMDR, and spiritual awakening to the conversation. She beautifully bridges the gap between deep trauma healing and the lived experience of non-dual awareness.

                                                        Together, they explore how true healing arises not just through psychological insight, but through the direct embodiment of Presence. Lynn Marie shares her journey of awakening, the importance of integrating trauma post-awakening, and the role of redemptive love in reclaiming wholeness.

                                                        👤 About Lynn Marie Lumiere:
                                                        Lynn Marie is a psychotherapist trained in Somatic Experiencing and EMDR, specialising in developmental trauma and non-dual awakening. She is the author of Awakened Relating and is known for embodying and pointing to the awake space of Being. Her work supports clients in metabolising trauma through the direct, transformative power of presence.

                                                        Her deepest intention is to guide individuals to the depths of their true nature—a space of infinite love, compassion, wisdom, and strength.

                                                        🌐 www.lynnmarielumiere.com

                                                        Key Topics Discussed:

                                                        1. Lynn’s Personal Journey:

                                                          • Healing from trauma through awakening and embodiment.

                                                          • The inspiration behind her book Awakened Relating.

                                                          • Trauma and the Path to Presence:

                                                            • Why many spiritual traditions bypass trauma and emotional wounding.

                                                            • The crucial distinction between pre- and post-awakening healing.

                                                            • How developmental trauma shows up after awakening—and what to do with it.

                                                            • Embodiment & Somatic Integration:

                                                              • The body as the gateway to freedom and healing.

                                                              • The role of Somatic Experiencing, Embodied Processing, and resourcing.

                                                              • How somatic work helps metabolise frozen trauma and return to wholeness.

                                                              • Awakening & Non-Dual Awareness:

                                                                • The lived experience of Being and how it supports transformation.

                                                                • Redemptive love as a healing force.

                                                                • Navigating the embodiment process after spiritual realisation.

                                                                • Collective & Individual Healing:

                                                                  • Moving from personal to planetary healing.

                                                                  • The rise in global consciousness and what it means for healers and seekers.

                                                                  • How presence and embodiment serve as medicine for our times.

                                                                  • Encouragement for the Healing Path:

                                                                    • Trusting the inner intelligence of your Being.

                                                                    • Why commitment to healing leads to true liberation.

                                                                    • The intersection of spirituality, psychology, and the somatic journey.

                                                                      📚 Resources & Mentions:

                                                                      • Awakened Relating by Lynn Marie Lumiere

                                                                      • Influences: Peter Levine, Adyashanti

                                                                      • Modalities: EMDR, Somatic Experiencing, Embodied Processing

                                                                        📲 Connect with Lynn Marie Lumiere:

                                                                        • Website: lynnmarielumiere.com

                                                                          Topics Covered:
                                                                          Embodied Processing | Somatic Therapy | Developmental Trauma | Non-Duality | Spiritual Awakening | Embodiment | Redemptive Love | Presence | Consciousness


                                                                          This episode is a rich invitation to deepen into your own Being—to meet your trauma not as a problem, but as a doorway to wholeness. Lynn Marie’s work reminds us that the healing path isn’t separate from awakening—it is its embodiment.

                                                                          ✨ Tune in for an enlightening and embodied conversation on healing, presence, and the power of love.

                                                                          1 hr 3 min
                                                                        • A Journey of Trauma, Healing, Awakening and Embodiment with Gemma Carroll
                                                                          Episode Summary:

                                                                          In this episode, Matt sits down with Gemma Carroll, a holistic counsellor and Embodied Processing practitioner based in Aotearoa, New Zealand. Gemma shares an intimate and profound exploration of her personal and professional journey — from experiencing early developmental trauma and severe shock trauma, to her awakening into Presence and offering support to others on their healing path.

                                                                          With deep wisdom and authenticity, Gemma walks us through her transformative journey of reconciling the wounds of her past through a range of embodiment practices including yoga, meditation, somatic work, and ultimately Embodied Processing. She speaks openly about her spiritual awakening, the integration of non-duality, and what it means to live a life guided by consciousness and inner truth.

                                                                          Main Discussion Points:

                                                                          1. Gemma’s Background & Upbringing

                                                                          • Influences of her childhood and the deep connection she held with her maternal grandparents, particularly her grandfather.

                                                                          • Reflections on growing up in a nature-filled, loving environment before life’s early traumas shifted her path.

                                                                            2. Trauma and the Path to Healing

                                                                            • Personal experiences with both developmental and shock trauma.

                                                                            • The difficulty and emotional complexity of sharing personal trauma with others.

                                                                            • The embodiment practices and healing modalities that supported her recovery: yoga, meditation, and somatic therapy — eventually leading her to Embodied Processing.

                                                                              3. Spirituality & Non-Duality

                                                                              • Gemma’s authentic awakening to her true nature as Presence.

                                                                              • The integration of spiritual experiences with the human condition.

                                                                              • The role of consciousness and presence in living a fulfilled and healed life.

                                                                                4. Life in Flow & Working with Death

                                                                                • Living without attachment to past identities and paths — embracing fluidity and presence.

                                                                                • Her experience and training as a death walker and her unique perspective on holding space around death and dying.

                                                                                  5. Cultural Identity & Ancestral Wisdom

                                                                                  • Conversations on intergenerational trauma, cultural disconnection, and curiosity about indigenous knowledge.

                                                                                  • The impact of migration on identity and belonging, and the healing power of reconnection.

                                                                                    Topics Covered:

                                                                                    Embodied Processing · Somatic Therapy · Trauma Healing · Spiritual Awakening · Non-Duality · Yoga · Psychedelics · Death & Dying · Intergenerational Trauma

                                                                                    Connect with Gemma Carroll:

                                                                                    • 🌐 Website: www.gemmacarroll.com

                                                                                    • 📸 Instagram: @gemmacarrollnz

                                                                                    • 👍 Facebook: The MindBody Guru

                                                                                    • 💼 LinkedIn: Gemma Carroll

                                                                                    • 📰 Substack: The MindBody Guru

                                                                                       

                                                                                      This episode offers a heartfelt and enlightening look at one woman’s courageous path of healing, awakening, and service. Gemma’s story reminds us of the power of presence, the importance of embodied healing, and the beauty of returning home to our truest selves. Whether you're navigating your own trauma or holding space for others, this conversation is filled with insight and inspiration.

                                                                                      59 min
                                                                                    • A Healing Story, Finding the Missing Piece with Embodiment with Steve McNamara

                                                                                      Welcome to this week's episode featuring Steve McNamara, founder of the Integrated Warrior Programme, part of Wild Man Revolution Coaching and Consulting. Recently certified as an Embodied Processing practitioner, guiding individuals through deep transformation via retreats, programs, and integrated coaching.

                                                                                      Steve opens up about his journey through healing and coaching, revealing the missing pieces he discovered in the industry. He shares how these insights have shaped his work and how he now helps individuals reclaim their power and purpose through deep, embodied transformation.

                                                                                      ✨ Key Topics Discussed:

                                                                                      1. Steve's Journey:

                                                                                        • Transition from traditional coaching to integrating embodied processing.

                                                                                        • The evolution of his coaching style over the years.

                                                                                        • Personal experiences that led to a deeper understanding of embodied healing.

                                                                                        • Embodied Processing:

                                                                                          • Importance of integrating healing into the body for authentic transformation.

                                                                                          • How embodied processing differs from traditional NLP and other modalities.

                                                                                          • The role of presence and patience in achieving long-lasting change.

                                                                                          • Coaching Philosophy:

                                                                                            • The shift from self-improvement to self-acceptance.

                                                                                            • Emphasizing the importance of being present and relating to oneself differently.

                                                                                            • The impact of breath work and other body-oriented practices.

                                                                                            • Programmes and Offerings:

                                                                                              • Overview of the Integrated Warrior retreats and mastery programmes.

                                                                                              • Focus on providing tools for self-regulation and emotional mastery.

                                                                                              • The combination of structured goal setting with deep emotional work.

                                                                                              • Personal Insights:

                                                                                                • Steve's personal challenges and breakthroughs in his journey.

                                                                                                • The role of sport and early life experiences in shaping his coaching approach.

                                                                                                • Reflections on the importance of authenticity and vulnerability in personal growth.

                                                                                                  Explore more of Steve’s work:
                                                                                                  👉 https://linktr.ee/wildmanrevolution

                                                                                                  53 min
                                                                                                • Enlightened Consciousness and Embodiment with David Buckland

                                                                                                  Episode Overview:
                                                                                                  In this insightful conversation, Matt K. welcomes David “Davidya” Buckland—blogger, author, and certified EP Level 2 practitioner—to explore his unique spiritual journey. From an early interest in meditation to experiencing Self Realization and later uncovering unresolved trauma through somatic work, David shares profound reflections on awakening, healing, and integration.

                                                                                                  Drawing from his book Our Natural Potential, rooted in ancient Vedic wisdom, David offers a rare blend of spiritual insight and embodied experience, inviting listeners to consider the deeper layers of transformation.

                                                                                                  Key Topics Discussed:

                                                                                                  1. Getting to Know David Buckland

                                                                                                    • Growing up in Western Canada and the influence of educator parents

                                                                                                    • Early explorations of consciousness and spirituality

                                                                                                    • The Spiritual Path Unfolded

                                                                                                      • Discovering meditation and the shift from traditional spiritual practices

                                                                                                      • Retreat experiences and the unfolding of Self Realization

                                                                                                      • Mapping the Stages of Enlightenment

                                                                                                        • Understanding the progression from awakening to unity and beyond

                                                                                                        • How each stage supports personal and spiritual development

                                                                                                        • Facing Trauma Post-Awakening

                                                                                                          • Realising trauma still present after spiritual awakening

                                                                                                          • Turning to Embodied Processing and studying at The Centre for Healing

                                                                                                          • The Role of Somatic Work

                                                                                                            • Why embodiment is essential for deep healing

                                                                                                            • Using somatic practices to integrate and process stored trauma

                                                                                                            • Living the Integration

                                                                                                              • Embodying spiritual insights in everyday life

                                                                                                              • Navigating the challenges and beauty of spiritual embodiment

                                                                                                              • Our Natural Potential – The Book

                                                                                                                • Exploring the essence of David’s teachings

                                                                                                                • Making ancient Vedic wisdom accessible for modern seekers

                                                                                                                  Conclusion:
                                                                                                                  This episode offers a powerful reminder that the spiritual path doesn’t end at awakening—it deepens through embodiment. David shares closing thoughts on how spiritual practices are evolving and the importance of integrating body, mind, and spirit in today’s world.

                                                                                                                  🔗 Learn more about David's work: https://davidya.ca/

                                                                                                                  1 hr
                                                                                                                • Working with Rage, Somatic Healing and Psychedelics with Ben Tannahill

                                                                                                                  In this episode, Ben and Matt discuss Ben’s journey healing from alcoholism through deep somatic work. They discuss the depth of transformation that can come only from meeting your emotions, the nuances of working with difficult feelings like rage as well as the nitty gritty of what it actually means to be deeply present and how it can be supportive in other contexts, like when working with intense psychedelic experiences.

                                                                                                                  Ben is a Senior Practitioner of Embodied Processing L1/L2.

                                                                                                                   

                                                                                                                  Where to find Ben:

                                                                                                                  Website: www.drunkenbuddha.net

                                                                                                                  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@drunkenbuddha4456

                                                                                                                  1 hr 7 min

                                                                                                                About The Centre for Healing Podcast

                                                                                                                From the publisher's feed

                                                                                                                Welcome to The Centre for Healing Podcast, where we dive deep into the world of emotional, mental, and spiritual well-being. Brought to you by The Centre for Healing, this podcast features expert insights, transformative stories, and practical tools for overcoming trauma, fostering resilience, and embracing holistic healing.