The Charlene Gisele Show

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  • How Investing in Art Works: An Art Advisor's Guide to Collecting

    What if one of the things missing from your high-performance life is something that has absolutely nothing to do with performance?

    Laura González, art historian and cultural strategist from Puerto Rico, shares how she helps collectors, galleries, and philanthropies build meaningful art collections. She began in the auction world as a Contemporary Art specialist and later Director of Latin American Art, before launching her own advisory practice in London. She is also the co-founder of THEMUST.CO, an artist-made design platform inspired by museum stores.

    We explore how exposure to art shapes us from childhood, why artists “live at the edge of the possible,” and how spending time with a painting can change the way we think. We also get practical about collecting: developing confidence in your own taste, building relationships with galleries, starting locally, and why you should probably flirt with art before you commit to it. Along the way, Laura covers collecting for love versus return, the mistakes most beginners make, and why AI is unlikely to threaten art the way many fear.

     

    Timestamp

    00:00 Intro

    02:14 How Laura fell in love with art

    04:43 Why art matters for high performers

    07:07 Art, awe, and the reset for a burnt out brain

    13:46 How to build a sharper eye and start collecting

    16:41 How to start collecting art

    19:38 When to hire an art advisor

    20:13 Building confidence in your own taste

    29:01 Art as an investment vs. collecting art for love

    37:04 Collecting art for generational wealth

    42:52 Are auction houses worth your time?

    45:55 The most common beginner collector mistakes

    47:25 Will AI threaten art?

    55:47 Where to start and parting advice

     

    What We Cover

    • How growing up around artists and museums shaped Laura’s love of art
    • Why art works as a reset for high performers who are always on the go
    • The close-looking exercise taught in art history and why it feels like meditation
    • How to build a sharper eye and start collecting with a method
    • When it makes sense to hire an art advisor and what they actually do
    • Collecting for love versus return, and why holding time matters
    • How auction houses, commercial galleries, and public galleries each serve different collectors
    • The most common mistakes beginner collectors make
    • Why art has survived every new technology, from photography to AI
    • Simple ways to start engaging with art in your own city
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      Key Takeaways

      • Art makes you slow down. Close looking pulls you out of circular thinking and into something physical and real.
      • Develop confidence in your own taste. Collecting only works when you choose what speaks to you, not what you are supposed to like.
      • Start with galleries. They are free to visit, and asking about a work or its price begins a conversation.
      • Hold, do not flip. Five years is rarely enough for an artwork to appreciate meaningfully, so a short term investment mindset works against you.
      • Patience protects you. There will always be another piece, so wait if trends or friends are pushing you.
      • Your collection can change with you. The relationship you have with a piece can evolve as your life changes.
      • Art doesn't need to be useful to be valuable. Sometimes the value is simply in creating space to experience something beyond productivity.
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        Guest Resources

        • THEMUST.CO: https://themust.co
        • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lauragonzzz
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          📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele
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          1 hr 6 min
        • Oral Health & Longevity: Why Biological Dentistry Matters with Dr. Dominik Nischwitz

          What if some of the health issues you’ve been trying to solve have been starting in your mouth all along?

          Dr. Dominik Nischwitz, known as Dr. Dome, is a world leader in biological dentistry, ceramic implantology and functional health integration. He is the founder of Biodentistry 3.0 and creator of the Biodentistry Global Standard, a clinical and educational system designed to look beyond symptoms and investigate the connection between oral health and the rest of the body.

          In this episode, we explore why Dr. Dome believes oral health is one of the most overlooked pieces of the health puzzle. We talk about metals in the mouth, root canals, wisdom tooth removal, silent inflammation, the oral microbiome, breathing, airway health and the ways previous dental work may influence whole-body health. Dr. Dome also shares his approach to biological dentistry and why he believes optimal health and longevity start with the mouth.

          Timestamp

          00:00 Intro

          02:33 The three questions Dr. Dome asks every patient

          04:52 Why optimal health starts in the mouth

          08:10 How oral health connects to the rest of the body

          12:47 Biodentistry 3.0 and the evolution of dentistry

          16:45 The hidden sources of inflammation in your mouth

          18:07 Root canals, metals and previous dental work

          20:23 Why oral health matters for longevity

          31:07 Rethinking everything we were taught about oral hygiene

          32:11 Tooth decay and what actually causes it

          35:38 Your oral microbiome

          43:11 Root canals and sinus problems

          44:42 What bleeding gums may be telling you

          49:57 Dr. Dome’s approach to removing metals and root canals

          51:18 What happens after dental restoration

          55:30 The connection between oral health, EMFs and mold

          57:26 A patient case and the hidden impact of dental work

           

          What We Cover

          • Why Dr. Dome believes oral health is a missing link in whole-body health
          • The potential impact of metals, root canals and wisdom tooth removal
          • Silent inflammation and the connection between the mouth and nervous system
          • Why the oral microbiome matters
          • What Dr. Dome believes causes tooth decay
          • The relationship between breathing, facial development, posture and the airway
          • Biological dentistry, ceramic implants and his approach to dental restoration
          • Why longevity doctors are increasingly paying attention to oral health
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            Key Takeaways

            • The mouth is an extension of the brain. Previous dental repair can affect mental health, gut health, hormones, and more.
            • Tooth decay is not a fluoride deficiency. It is a sign of nutrient depletion and lifestyle, not a lack of brushing.
            • Metal in the mouth is never fully inert. It can corrode, trigger immune responses, and even act as an antenna for EMFs.
            • Root canals and cavitations can hide chronic infection. These areas can harbour bacteria, mold, and parasites for decades without pain.
            • Most sinus issues trace back to the teeth. Up to 80% may have a dental origin that goes undiagnosed.
            • Bleeding gums are a sign of depletion, not poor hygiene. Nutrients like vitamin D3, K2, and collagen matter more than brushing harder.
            • Oral health is foundational, not optional. No amount of biohacking or supplementation can outperform unresolved dental infections.
            • Moderation beats restriction. One mindful glass of wine or a well-timed coffee does less damage than guilt and overcorrection.
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              Guest Resources

              • Become a patient at Dr. Dome's Center for Biological Dentistry: https://dnaesthetics.de/?lang=en
              • Institute of Biological Dentistry, Biodentistry 3.0 Certification Program: https://theinstituteofbiologicaldentistry.com/
              • Find a trained REAL Biodentist: https://directory.theinstituteofbiologicaldentistry.com/
              • Supreme Oral Health (USA): https://supremeoralhealth.com/
              • SUPZ Nutrition (Europe): https://www.supznutrition.com/en
              • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drdome1/
              • YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DrDominikNischwitz/featured
              • Podcast appearances: https://drdomeofficial.com/podcast/
              • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdominiknischwitz
              • TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@drdomeofficial
              •  

                Connect With Me

                🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com
                📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele
                💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlène-gisèle-bourliout/
                ✉️ Subscribe to my Life Less Burnt Out Newsletter: https://charlenegisele.com/newsletter/

                1 hr 15 min
              • The High Performer’s Energy Deficit: Under-Fuelling, Burnout & RED-S

                How much of your chronic fatigue, your missed periods, or your recurring injuries might actually come down to simply not eating enough?

                Florence Sargent, founder of RED-Scue, a nutrition company created from her own experience with Relative Energy Deficiency in Sport (RED-S). A former Spanish national athlete, Florence tore her Achilles at 17 after years of overtraining and under-fuelling, and later realised just how much the culture around performance, perfectionism and restriction had shaped her relationship with food and recovery.

                In this episode, we unpack why RED-S is not just a problem for elite athletes. Long working hours, missed meals, fasted training, marathon training and the constant pressure to perform can leave busy professionals chronically under-fuelled too. Florence explains the signs to look out for, why carbohydrates have become so unnecessarily demonised, how under-fuelling can affect everything from sleep and gut health to hormones and injuries, and why burnout and energy deficiency can become a vicious cycle.

                Get 20% off on your first RED-Scue order with code CHARLENE20: https://www.red-scue.com/products/red-scue-remedy-jars

                Timestamps

                00:00 Intro

                03:13 Florence's athletic career and how RED-S began for her

                07:18 What chronic energy deficit actually means

                09:32 How under-fuelling can contribute to injury

                11:56 RED-S, female health and fertility

                13:02 Why carbohydrates have become so demonised

                18:44 Common warning signs and symptoms of RED-S

                23:11 Why marathon training is so attractive to type A people

                31:06 Getting a RED-S diagnosis and the gap in medical awareness

                38:43 The role of carbohydrates in sleep and recovery

                51:19 The link between RED-S and burnout

                55:34 How RED-Scue was built to be corporate-friendly

                What We Cover
                • Why RED-S can affect busy professionals, not just elite athletes
                • The physical and psychological signs that someone may be under-fuelled
                • The connection between chronic energy deficiency, burnout and overtraining
                • Why missing meals and carbohydrates can have serious consequences
                • How restriction, perfectionism and “discipline” can disguise under-fuelling
                • What sleep, gut health, injuries and hormonal changes can tell us
                • Why rest and recovery need to be treated as part of performance
                • Why female athletes and high performers often lose their periods and how that connects to fertility and early perimenopause
                • How marathon training culture can quietly fuel over-training in busy professionals
                • Key Takeaways
                  • RED-S is a metabolic injury. When the body is chronically under-fuelled, entire systems start switching off to conserve energy.
                  • Carbohydrates are the main fuel for the brain and body. Restricting them does not support performance, it undermines it.
                  • Burnout and under-fuelling can reinforce each other. When exhaustion becomes the norm, working and training harder can feel like the only productive response.
                  • Your body’s warning signs matter. Fatigue, sleep disruption, gut issues, injuries and hormonal changes can all be signals worth investigating.
                  • Fuel without fear. Florence’s message is ultimately about moving away from rigid food rules and towards giving your body what it needs to perform.
                  • Guest Resources
                    • Website: https://www.red-scue.com/
                    • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/red_scue_/
                    • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/red-scue/
                    • Substack: https://redscue.substack.com/
                    • Global RED-S Awareness Day (Nov 21st): https://awareness-days.co.uk/awareness-day/global-reds-awareness-week/2025-11-18/
                    • Get 20% off your first order with code CHARLENE20: https://www.red-scue.com/products/red-scue-training-pack

                       

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                      🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com

                      📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele
                      💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlène-gisèle-bourliout/
                      ✉️ Subscribe to my Life Less Burnt Out Newsletter: https://charlenegisele.com/newsletter/

                      1 hr 8 min
                    • The Gut-Brain Axis: How Stress, Sleep, & Nutrition Shape Performance

                      What does your gut have to do with how well your brain performs? More than you might think. And if your stomach acts up before a big meeting, your gut may be responding to the same stress that is affecting your brain!

                      Kiran Krishnan, research microbiologist with over 20 years of experience in health and nutrition, has conducted more than 50 human clinical trials on digestive health and the microbiome. He co-founded Microbiome Labs and now co-founds five other health and wellness companies, and has published in peer-reviewed journals and written chapters for global medical textbooks.

                      In this episode, we explore the gut-brain axis and why the relationship between your gut and brain goes both ways. Kiran explains what stress can do to digestion, why chronic stress can contribute to leaky gut, and how poor sleep, stress, diet and other lifestyle factors can affect the health of your gut microbiome. We also unpack the five practical pillars he recommends for improving gut health, including fiber, polyphenols, stress management, sleep, exposure and supplementation, with simple strategies that can actually fit into a busy professional life.

                       

                      Timestamp

                      00:00 Intro

                      02:41 Why brain performance depends on gut health

                      05:12 How the gut repairs the brain during sleep

                      08:02 The gut brain axis as a two way superhighway

                      11:39 How stress physically disrupts digestion

                      16:45 Stress, inflammation and leaky gut

                      19:10 What exactly is leaky gut?

                      30:32 Common signs and symptoms of leaky gut

                      34:20 Why you can assume you have leaky gut

                      36:28 The habits that make leaky gut worse

                      38:43 The five pillars for improving gut health

                      1:00:25 How to get deeper into Kiran's work

                       

                      What We Cover

                      • Why the brain needs a healthy gut to repair itself overnight
                      • How the gut brain axis works as a two-way communication highway
                      • Why stress can trigger bloating, constipation, diarrhoea and other digestive symptoms
                      • What leaky gut actually means
                      • Why leaky gut is linked to anxiety, depression, joint pain, and blood sugar issues
                      • The everyday habits that quietly worsen leaky gut, from alcohol to poor sleep
                      • The five pillars of gut health
                      • Why fiber and polyphenols are the most powerful tools for gut repair
                      • How movement, even in small bursts, lowers stress and supports the gut
                      • Why sleep quality matters more than sleep quantity for gut and brain repair
                      • The gut-brain connection and cognitive performance
                      • Practical strategies for high performers who do not have time for a complete lifestyle overhaul
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                        Key Takeaways

                        • Your gut and brain are in constant communication. What happens in one can influence the other.
                        • Stress physically damages your gut. Chronic stress is a major driver of leaky gut and the inflammation that follows.
                        • Leaky gut has a real name. Metabolic endotoxemia is the clinical term, and it is linked to conditions far beyond digestion.
                        • Stress does not stay in your head. It can directly affect how your digestive system functions.
                        • You don't need to overhaul your life. Small, consistent changes to diet, movement, stress and sleep can make a meaningful difference.
                        • Fiber and polyphenols matter. They help support the bacteria and compounds involved in maintaining the gut barrier.
                        • You cannot supplement your way out of poor lifestyle habits. Supplements come last, after the foundations are in place.
                        •  

                          Guest Resources

                          • Learn more about Kiran Krishnan: https://www.sivcare.com
                          •  

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                            🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com
                            📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele
                            💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlène-gisèle-bourliout/
                            ✉️ Subscribe to my Life Less Burnt Out Newsletter: https://charlenegisele.com/newsletter/

                            1 hr 6 min
                          • Performance Psychology: What Elite Sport Teaches Us About Performing Under Pressure

                            What if the biggest difference between a great performance and a poor one isn’t your ability, but the mindset you bring into the moment?

                            Dan Abrahams, sport and performance psychologist, has spent the last 20 years working with some of the best sports competitors in the world, including as consultant psychologist for Aston Martin F1, Lead Psychologist for England Golf and England Rugby, and psychologist at six Premier League clubs. He is the author of four bestselling books, including Soccer Tough, which Gareth Bale credits with changing his life.

                            In this episode, we explore why the psychology of elite sport has so much to teach us about performance in the corporate world, why elite performers are often the ones most at risk of burnout, the three pillars Dan uses to build sustainable high performance, and why you cannot force a great performance no matter how much pressure you put on yourself. Dan breaks down his game face technique for building instant confidence under pressure, explains why establishing meaning beyond your career is essential before a major transition, and shows how the exact same mental frameworks used by elite athletes apply directly to boardrooms, client meetings, and high-stakes negotiations.

                            This episode is about performance psychology, burnout, confidence, identity, and why the pressure to perform perfectly is often what stops you from performing well.

                             

                            Timestamp

                            00:00 Intro

                            04:14 Why the greatest performers are most at risk of burnout

                            09:55 How to balance ambition with rest and recovery

                            10:48 The three Ms: mindset, mastery, and management

                            16:19 Navigating identity transitions and retirement

                            23:06 Using purpose to build a deeper sense of meaning

                            25:54 Managing performance anxiety and sleep before a big day

                            38:00 Overcoming imposter syndrome and confidence erosion

                            39:01 The game face technique for instant confidence

                            53:58 Why visualisation can feel uncomfortable and how to use it anyway

                             

                            What We Cover

                            • How to build a high-performance mindset without becoming consumed by outcomes
                            • The role of rest and recovery in sustainable performance
                            • How to create your own Game Face for high-pressure situations
                            • Using visualization and mental rehearsal without making it feel “woo-woo”
                            • What elite sports psychology can teach lawyers, executives, investors and other high performers
                            • What sports psychology actually involves, beyond just mindset
                            • Why the hardest workers and most intense competitors are often the most burnout-prone
                            • The difference between practising and performing, and why corporate life is performance-heavy
                            • The three Ms framework
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                              Key Takeaways

                              • You cannot force performance and you cannot control outcomes. You can only control your mindset going in.
                              • Quality beats quantity. Mastery comes from purposeful, deliberate practice, not simply doing more.
                              • Recovery is part of performance. Rest and recuperation are essential to sustaining high performance.
                              • Build multiple sources of meaning. Your profession can be central to your identity without becoming your entire identity.
                              • Create a Game Face. Define the qualities you want to embody under pressure, then use them as a practical performance blueprint.
                              • Your psychology is embodied. Confidence and mindset show up in how you move, communicate, decide and execute.
                              •  

                                Guest Resources

                                • Check Dan’s website: https://danabrahams.com
                                • Listen to The Sport Psych Show podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Pf4uOIQJhbel1kYNzz39z
                                • Get Dan’s new book, Compete: https://hawksmoorpublishing.com/book/compete-developing-a-mental-playbook-for-performance-under-pressure-in-sport-dan-abraham
                                •  

                                  Connect With Me

                                  🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com
                                  📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele
                                  💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlène-gisèle-bourliout/
                                  ✉️ Subscribe to my Life Less Burnt Out Newsletter: https://charlenegisele.com/newsletter/

                                  1 hr 4 min
                                • HRV, Nervous System & Burnout: Why You’re Exhausted & How To Listen To Your Body

                                  What if your pursuit of better health, performance, and longevity could actually become another form of stress?

                                  In this episode, Salim Najjar, founder of The HRV Guy, brings the lens of an engineer to the human nervous system, guiding CEOs, founders, and elite performers toward nervous system sovereignty using heart rate variability as the compass. After raising his own HRV from 32 to over 100, he created the A.R.T. of the Heart framework, a path to turning stress into an ally rather than an enemy.

                                  After years of pushing his body through intense biohacking, minimal sleep, endurance training, fasting, and relentless optimisation, Salim experienced burnout and discovered HRV as a completely different way of understanding his body. What began as an obsession with optimising a number on a wearable eventually became a practice of listening to his nervous system rather than trying to control it.

                                  This episode is about HRV, burnout, biohacking, nervous system health, and why your body's wisdom is the only guru you will ever need.

                                   

                                  Timestamp

                                  00:00 Intro

                                  04:06 Salim's transition from corporate to nervous system work

                                  05:27 Losing his father and the roots of his type A drive

                                  07:48 Launching a beverage company and discovering biohacking

                                  10:04 Finding HRV and the science of cellular inflammation

                                  17:50 What HRV actually measures and why it matters

                                  25:11 The five pathways and Salim's HRV journey from 30 to 170

                                  39:44 Pathway one: sleep as the foundation

                                  43:14 Pathway three: reframing and the shoulder dislocation story

                                  47:38 Pathway four: intentionality and purpose

                                  52:36 How to apply the five pathways as a busy executive

                                  58:06 How long to track HRV and which device to use

                                   

                                  What We Cover

                                  • The hidden downside of extreme biohacking
                                  • Why high achievers can become addicted to optimisation
                                  • How burnout can happen even when you're “doing everything for your health”
                                  • What HRV is and why it can be useful
                                  • How to use HRV as a language rather than a performance metric
                                  • The five pathways of nervous system sovereignty
                                  • How hormetic stress can build nervous system capacity
                                  • The power of reframing difficult experiences
                                  • How community and relationships influence nervous system health
                                  • How to use wearables without becoming obsessed with the data
                                  •  

                                    Key Takeaways

                                    • Chronic stress is the leading cause of cellular inflammation, which drives most aging and disease.
                                    • HRV is a language your nervous system speaks to you, not a score to compare against anyone else.
                                    • Your relationship to a stressful event can change your physiology as much as the event itself.
                                    • A minimum of three months of consistent tracking is needed before HRV data becomes genuinely useful.
                                    • The best HRV device is the one you will actually wear consistently, not the most accurate one.
                                    • Sleep creates the foundation. Hormetic stress builds capacity. Reframing changes your relationship with reality. Intention creates alignment. Community amplifies it.
                                    •  

                                      Guest Resources

                                      • Take Salim's free HRV archetype quiz: https://thathrvguy.com/hrv-quiz
                                      • Explore Salim's courses and coaching: https://thathrvguy.com/offerings
                                      •  

                                        Connect With Me

                                        🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com
                                        📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele
                                        💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlène-gisèle-bourliout/
                                        ✉️ Subscribe to my Life Less Burnt Out Newsletter: https://charlenegisele.com/newsletter/

                                        1 hr 4 min
                                      • Fertility, Egg Freezing & Embryo Banking for Career-Driven Women with Dr. Sasha Hakman

                                        You built the career, the title, and the financial independence you always wanted. But did anyone ever tell you what that timeline was costing you biologically?

                                        Dr. Sasha Hakman, double board-certified OB-GYN and Reproductive Endocrinology and Infertility specialist, helps driven, career-focused women understand their fertility before it is too late to act on it.

                                        We explore why so many ambitious women delay motherhood without understanding the trade-off, why female age remains the single biggest predictor of reproductive success, and what it means to plan your fertility the same way you plan your career. Dr. Hakman breaks down egg freezing versus embryo freezing, shares her own fertility journey as a career-driven physician, and explains the regret she hears most often in her practice.

                                        This episode is about fertility, career and motherhood, egg freezing, and why understanding your own biology is one of the most powerful things a high-achieving woman can do for her future.

                                         

                                        Timestamp

                                        00:00 Intro

                                        03:07 Sasha's mission and who she helps

                                        04:04 What infertility actually means

                                        06:13 The main causes of infertility and how they have evolved

                                        11:43 Why women are trying to conceive later than ever

                                        17:25 Why female age matters and why that is not anti-feminist

                                        22:27 Egg freezing versus embryo freezing explained

                                        28:36 The right age to consider egg freezing

                                        33:29 The most common regrets Sasha hears from patients

                                        36:43 How to get a fertility evaluation

                                        37:31 The biggest lesson from Sasha's own fertility journey

                                         

                                        What We Cover

                                        • What infertility means medically and how the definition has recently changed
                                        • The most common physiological causes of infertility, including PMOS (formerly known as PCOS) and endometriosis
                                        • Why the rate of infertility has increased significantly in just a few years
                                        • The real physiological trade-offs in delaying motherhood for career reasons
                                        • The biological reason egg quality and quantity decline with age
                                        • The real difference between freezing eggs and freezing embryos
                                        • Who is and is not a good candidate for egg freezing at different ages
                                        • The regrets a fertility doctor hears most often from patients in her practice
                                        • Why a fertility evaluation before trying to conceive can save time and heartbreak
                                        • How to stay emotionally grounded while going through fertility treatment
                                        •  

                                          Key Takeaways

                                          • Female age is the single biggest predictor of reproductive success.
                                          • You are born with all the eggs you will ever have, and egg quality declines well before quantity runs out.
                                          • Freezing your eggs gives you full autonomy over your future fertility, regardless of what happens in a relationship.
                                          • At 43, it typically takes around 50 eggs to produce one chromosomally normal embryo.
                                          • Unexplained infertility affects 15 to 20 percent of couples, and around 40 percent of those cases trace back to endometriosis.
                                          • Guest Resources

                                            • Learn more about Dr. Sasha Hakman: https://www.sashahakmanmd.com/
                                            • Follow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sashahakmanmd/
                                            •  

                                              Connect With Me

                                              🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com
                                              📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele
                                              💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlène-gisèle-bourliout/
                                              ✉️ Subscribe to my Life Less Burnt Out Newsletter: https://charlenegisele.com/newsletter/

                                              41 min
                                            • The Seven Types of Rest: Why Sleep Is Not Enough When You Burnout

                                              When did you last feel truly rested, not just physically, but in every part of who you are?

                                              Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith, board-certified internal medicine physician, speaker, and bestselling author of Sacred Rest, shares the framework that has helped over 500,000 people identify and recover from the specific types of rest their body and mind are missing.

                                              We explore why sleep alone cannot solve the kind of exhaustion most high performers carry, how rest deficits show up differently depending on who you are and the work you do, and why so many driven professionals are producing at a high level while running dangerously close to empty. Dr. Dalton-Smith breaks down all seven types of rest, from physical and mental to emotional, social, creative, sensory, and spiritual, and explains what depletion in each area actually looks and feels like.

                                              This episode is about rest, burnout, performance, recovery, and why learning to restore yourself is one of the most strategic things a high achiever can do.

                                               

                                              Timestamp

                                              00:00 Intro

                                              03:10 Why rest is not the same as sleep

                                              04:43 The seven types of rest and why they matter

                                              08:51 Rest deficits, anxiety, and burnout

                                              15:29 How to identify your personal rest deficit

                                              19:06 Rest needs in relationships and couples

                                              27:07 Breaking down each type of rest: where to start

                                              27:31 Physical rest: signs, symptoms, and how to recover

                                              32:12 Mental rest deficit and how to quiet a busy brain

                                              46:09 Emotional rest and the cost of professional emotional labour

                                              49:35 The difference between trauma dumping and emotional rest

                                              50:28 Creative rest and why it matters for leaders

                                              55:19 Spiritual rest and reconnecting with purpose

                                              57:33 Sensory rest and digital overload

                                               

                                              What We Cover

                                              • Why sleeping and resting are not the same thing, and why that distinction matters
                                              • The seven types of rest and what depletion in each area looks like in real life
                                              • What physical rest actually involves beyond sleep, including body ergonomics and movement
                                              • Why mental rest is often the area where high achievers are most depleted
                                              • How emotional labour at work creates a hidden rest debt that follows you home
                                              • The difference between trauma dumping and true emotional rest
                                              • Why creative rest is relevant for leaders even if they do not consider themselves creative
                                              • What spiritual rest means for people without a religious practice
                                              • How sensory overload compounds burnout, especially for neurodivergent high performers
                                              •  

                                                Key Takeaways

                                                • Sleep cannot fix a creative, emotional, or social rest deficit. You need the right type of rest, not just more rest.
                                                • Lying down is physical rest. But if your brain is still running, you are not mentally resting.
                                                • Your area of daily struggle is often a direct signal of where your rest deficit is.
                                                • Identifying your partner's rest needs is as important as knowing their love language.
                                                • You can be visible without posting anything yourself. Engagement matters as much as output.
                                                • True self-care is not pampering. It is knowing yourself well enough to protect what you need.
                                                •  

                                                  Guest Resources

                                                  • Take the free rest deficit quiz: https://RestQuiz.com
                                                  • Get the Sacred Rest book by Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith: https://amzn.to/4jwa8xN
                                                  • Visit Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith’s website: https://DrDaltonSmith.com
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                                                    1 hr 10 min
                                                  • LinkedIn Strategy & Personal Branding: How to Get Clients & Grow Your Network

                                                    Did you know your LinkedIn profile is losing you clients before you've even had a chance to speak to them?

                                                    In this conversation, Steve Bruce, one of Asia's leading independent LinkedIn trainers, shares how senior executives, business owners, and corporate teams can use LinkedIn to build visibility, attract the right clients, and grow their business without feeling like they're selling.

                                                    We explore why so many high-achieving professionals have outdated profiles that are quietly costing them opportunities, how LinkedIn works as a relationship tool rather than a sales platform, and why being visible online is no longer optional, even for the busiest people in the room.

                                                    This episode is about LinkedIn, personal branding, visibility, networking, and why the professionals who don't tell their story are leaving business on the table.

                                                     

                                                    Timestamp

                                                    00:00 Intro

                                                    01:26 Why LinkedIn still matters after 20 years

                                                    03:24 What busy senior executives get wrong about LinkedIn

                                                    05:02 How to build a 100% complete LinkedIn profile

                                                    06:20 The biggest LinkedIn profile mistakes

                                                    09:00 Why your headshot matters more than you think

                                                    13:30 How to use your LinkedIn banner like a billboard

                                                    15:35 Can you be too salesy on LinkedIn

                                                    26:07 Imposter syndrome and LinkedIn comparison culture

                                                    33:58 The four pillars of LinkedIn success

                                                    51:00 Is LinkedIn Premium worth it

                                                    57:23 How to follow up without feeling pushy

                                                     

                                                    What We Cover

                                                    • Why an incomplete LinkedIn profile is quietly costing you clients
                                                    • The difference between a tidy profile and a truly effective one
                                                    • Why your headshot, banner, and bio do more work than you think
                                                    • How to write about yourself in a way that feels natural, not salesy
                                                    • The four pillars of LinkedIn success and how they work together
                                                    • How to stay visible on LinkedIn without posting every day
                                                    • Why engaging with other people's content matters more than most people realise
                                                    • How to use LinkedIn alongside in-person networking for better results
                                                    • Whether LinkedIn Premium is worth it and what it actually gives you
                                                    • How to follow up and start conversations that don't feel like a pitch
                                                    •  

                                                      Key Takeaways

                                                      • Your LinkedIn profile is often the first impression a potential client gets of you.
                                                      • An outdated photo, missing banner, or third-person bio is quietly working against you.
                                                      • You don't have to post every day to be visible. Engaging with others counts.
                                                      • The four pillars are a strong profile, targeted connections, active presence, and strong relationships.
                                                      • You can build a presence on LinkedIn in as little as 15 minutes a week.
                                                      • The goal isn't to sell. It's to stay on the radar until the client is ready.
                                                      • Guest Resources

                                                        • Connect with Steve on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/upgradeyourprofile/
                                                        •  

                                                          Connect With Me

                                                          🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com

                                                          📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele
                                                          💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlène-gisèle-bourliout/
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                                                          1 hr 5 min
                                                        • Home Decluttering: How to Reduce Stress, Mess & Decision Fatigue

                                                          What happens when the state of your home starts reflecting the state of your nervous system? In this conversation, Kylie Thorley, professional organiser and declutter coach, shares how she helps driven women create calmer, lighter homes and lives through simple, sustainable systems that reduce overwhelm and restore clarity.

                                                          We explore the powerful link between clutter, mess, burnout, and decision fatigue, and why so many high-achieving women can be highly organised at work while feeling completely overwhelmed at home. Kylie explains the difference between mess and clutter, why every item in your home carries a hidden cognitive cost, and how creating better systems can change not just your space, but how you feel in your daily life.

                                                          This episode is about home, stress, identity, motherhood, marriage, and why decluttering is often about far more than getting rid of stuff.

                                                           

                                                          Timestamp

                                                          00:00 Intro

                                                          01:04 What a declutter coach actually does

                                                          02:41 Kylie's story and how she became a declutter coach

                                                          05:37 How stress, clutter, and relationship strain became connected

                                                          08:53 The link between burnout, overwhelm, and home environment

                                                          09:57 The difference between mess and clutter

                                                          14:31 Why high-achieving women can be organised at work but overwhelmed at home

                                                          25:08 Why it is so hard to let go of things

                                                          30:08 Room-by-room clutter hotspots and where to start

                                                          56:39 How to handle children's clutter and model better habits

                                                          1:03:30 Kylie's top decluttering advice for getting started

                                                          1:10:31 How to work with Kylie and join her community

                                                           

                                                          What We Cover

                                                          • The connection between clutter, burnout, and mental overload
                                                          • The difference between mess and clutter
                                                          • Why women often feel in control at work but not at home
                                                          • How identity and memory make it harder to let go of things
                                                          • The most common clutter hotspots in bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchens, and living spaces
                                                          • How to help children build better habits around tidying and ownership
                                                          • How to start decluttering in a realistic way when life already feels full
                                                          • Why better home systems can improve not just your space, but your relationships and energy
                                                          •  

                                                            Key Takeaways

                                                            • Mess can often be tidied, but clutter keeps recreating the same problem.
                                                            • Every item in your home carries a hidden mental and practical cost.
                                                            • Decision fatigue does not stop at work. It follows you home.
                                                            • A tidy space is not always a decluttered space.
                                                            • Letting go of things is often about identity, memory, and past versions of self.
                                                            • The best way to start is small, simple, and specific.
                                                            • You do not need to overhaul an entire room to make meaningful progress.
                                                            • Decluttering can change more than your home. It can change how you feel in your life.
                                                            • Guest Resources

                                                              • Join Kylie’s supportive community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/declutteryourhomewithkylie
                                                              • Book a free 30-minute alignment call with Kylie: https://calendly.com/declutteryourhome-withkylie/30min
                                                              •  

                                                                Connect With Me

                                                                🌍 Website: https://charlenegisele.com
                                                                📸 Instagram: https://instagram.com/charlenegisele
                                                                💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charlène-gisèle-bourliout/
                                                                ✉️ Subscribe to my Life Less Burnt Out Newsletter: https://charlenegisele.com/newsletter/

                                                                1 hr 18 min

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