Sam Tallent has earned his PhD in touring as a stand-up comedian, an author and drummer. He's been on the road since his late teens,  has a best selling novel and an ever growing career in comedy to show for it.  Joe and Sam discuss his current reluctance to become a parent, why it was good for him to be something other than a comedian over the involuntary break and what touring feels like now.  Joe gets a lesson on the hierarchy of comedy performance, and not only do they discuss Sams newest novel Running the Light,  but we hear a gorgeous passage read by the author himself.  We also hear a couple numbers from Sam's punk band Big City Drugs.

https://www.samtallent.com/

https://bigcitydrugs.bandcamp.com/album/human-cargo

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