Bass Player, (The Shins, Teardrops, Tomo Nakayama, Sufjan Stevens) keyboardist, mixer and producer Yuuki Matthews checks in with his friend and former bandmate Joe. They discuss the stress of a head cold during the Covid-19 pandemic, the hopeful change the BLM movement will bring and how "trying to try" is his first step in meditating. They also talk about their experiences recording with their beloved friend Richard Swift before his passing. Music by Teardrops and Joe Plummer.

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