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In this episode of SoberPod, hosts Carl and Chelsea discuss their personal journeys with sobriety, the challenges of dealing with loss, and the transformative experience of becoming parents. They reflect on how sobriety has changed their perspectives on life events, family dynamics, and the importance of making conscious choices. The conversation also touches on the complexities of navigating holidays with family and the joys and challenges of parenthood. In this conversation, Carl and Chelsea delve into the complexities of addiction, recovery, and the choices that individuals face when confronting their relationship with alcohol. They explore the illusion of control that many alcoholics experience, the importance of accepting spiritual help, and the struggle to surrender to a higher power. The discussion emphasizes that the choice to change can come at any moment, and that understanding one's relationship with alcohol is crucial for recovery. In this conversation, they explore the themes of spirituality and recovery, discussing personal practices, the importance of prayer, and the journey toward finding a higher power. They emphasize the significance of honesty, open-mindedness, and willingness in the recovery process, and how these elements contribute to a deeper spiritual awakening. The dialogue reflects on the challenges and experiences that shape one's understanding of spirituality, ultimately encouraging listeners to seek their own unique paths in recovery.