This episode was recorded for my UK Column show.

Jeremy Kuzmarov is the Managing Editor of CovertAction Magazine and a critic of US foreign policy and intelligence operations.

In his conversation with me, Jeremy talked about how the CIA and Pentagon have quietly moved into American universities, shaping what gets studied (and not studied.

He pointed out that around 50 universities are involved in 'nuclear weapons research', which he argues is a sign of military influence, turning schools into extensions of the national security state.

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