In this episode of The Coaching Studio, host Lyssa deHart sits down with Paul Sanbar, MCC, a coach who doesn’t just think outside the box—he builds new ones, takes them apart, and reimagines what’s possible. Through LEGO® Serious Play® and hands-on thinking, Paul helps individuals and teams move beyond words, unlocking deeper insights through creativity and play.

Paul’s journey to coaching is anything but ordinary. Originally drawn to architecture as a way to create structure in a chaotic world, he shifted paths multiple times—through business, poetry, psychotherapy, and coaching—a journey he humorously calls A Fortunate Series of Overcorrections. Each pivot helped him refine his coaching philosophy, where play and unlearning are as essential as structure and mastery.

Lyssa and Paul dive into topics like:
 🔹 The power of liminal spaces—why transformation happens in the “in-between” moments.
🔹 How LEGO Serious Play® brings coaching to life—helping clients see and restructure their ideas.
🔹 Why unlearning is key to coaching mastery—and how it shaped Paul’s journey to MCC.
🔹 The neuroscience of play—how creativity helps clients move past stuck points and into possibility.

This conversation will challenge the way you think about coaching, learning, and growth. Whether you’re a coach, leader, or just someone fascinated by how we build and rebuild our lives, you’ll walk away with new perspectives and actionable insights.

This episode is full of practical insights, personal stories, and new ways to think about coaching and growth.

You can catch up with Paul on his website

Or find him on LinkedIn.

Season 5

Host: Lyssa deHart, LICSW, MCC, BCC
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Producer: Michele Logan

Video Editor: Sebastian Crespo

Social Media: Luciana Bottini

Music: Frolic by Harrison Amer

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