Rich loved Michael, which is how we ended up in the moral labyrinth that is Michael Jackson’s legacy. We revisit Living with Michael Jackson, ask what it means to separate art from artist (and whether that’s even possible), and sit with the discomfort.

Elsewhere: Madonna is back in her chaos era, making a pilgrimage to The Abbey as part of her press tour. Tracie speed-reads Lena Dunham’s memoir Famesick and comes to some…conclusions.

And finally, a cursed visual you now have to live with too: turtle erections.

To access video episodes, bonus episodes and our premium series WAWU—we're covering the newest season of The Comeback right now—check out our Patreon.

Tracie's Substack
Instagram
TikTok