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The Curious Advantage Podcast episodes

May 08 FBF | Vas Narasimhan & Steven Baert: The CEO & The Chief People and Organization Officer Perspective
Vas Narasimhan, the Novartis CEO and Steven Baert, Novartis’ Ex-Chief People and Organization Officer join the authors of The Curious Advantage Simon Brown, Paul Ashcroft and Garrick Jones, to discuss the importance of Curiosity in Business. They talk about how Novartis has worked to ‘unleash the power of their people’ and change the culture driven by an ‘Inspired’, ‘Curious’ and ‘Unbossed’ people strategy. Why is curiosity becoming more important in the digital age? Why is it important to have curious leaders? What does it mean to have a curious mind and how can curiosity impact individuals and organisations? Subscribe to this exclusive podcast today to listen to this fascinating conversation.
34 min
April 22 98: Tara May: The Unexpected Superpowers of Autistic Minds That Transform Business Success (CEO, Aspiritech)
Join Simon Brown and Paul Ashcroft as they explore Tara May's inspiring journey from journalism to leading Aspirtech, a company championing neurodiversity and harnessing the unique strengths of autistic adults. Discover how curiosity drives innovation, leadership, and social impact in the digital age.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Neurodiversity and Leadership
02:59 Tara's Journey: From Journalism to CEO
06:06 Understanding Aspirotech's Mission and Model
08:48 Defining Autism and Neurodiversity
11:51 The Unique Strengths of Neurodivergent Individuals
15:13 The Role of Technology and Human Collaboration
18:08 Creating a Supportive Workplace Environment
20:56 Fostering Neurodiversity in Organizations
23:50 The Impact of Creativity and Problem Solving
26:56 Global Efforts and Collaborations for Neurodiversity
29:59 Leadership Lessons and the Importance of Kindness
Resources

Aspirtech
NeuroWorks
HAPI
The Curious Advantage Podcast
Simon Brown LinkedIn
Paul Ashcroft LinkedIn
Tara May LinkedIn
The Curious Advantage explores curiosity and its growing importance in the digital age. From history, neuroscience, and anthropology to business and culture, it takes the widest possible view of curiosity. At its heart is the ‘Sailing the 7C’s of Curiosity’ model, a practical framework to help individuals harness curiosity as a power skill for growth and transformation.
The Curious Advantage is available on Amazon and Audiobook
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The Curious Advantage Podcast is executive produced by Jessica Wickham and Aliki Paolinelis. Audio editing by Danny Cross and video editing by Jessica Wickham.
41 min
April 01 97: Finn Hall: Functional Mushrooms, Building a Premium Brand, Authenticity & Curiosity (CEO, Headstrong)
Unlock the secret to building an authentic, high-quality brand in a saturated market.
In this episode, we’re joined by Finn Hall, CEO of Headstrong and former Team GB cyclist, who is redefining the functional mushrooms space through an uncompromising focus on quality, design and curiosity.
Finn shares his journey from elite sport to young entrepreneurship, revealing how a personal discovery sparked a mission to challenge industry standards and build a brand people can genuinely trust. He opens up about the realities of starting and scaling a premium brand in a saturated market, and what it takes to stay authentic while growing fast.
We explore how curiosity fuels innovation, why authenticity is non-negotiable in today’s landscape, and how social media and community have become powerful drivers of modern brand success. From building trust with your audience to creating a loyal following, Finn shares what it really takes to turn a product into a movement.
From the science behind functional mushrooms and extraction quality, to the role of design, storytelling and digital presence, this conversation is packed with insight for anyone building a brand today.
Show Links
Headstrong Website
Headstrong Instagram
Finn Hall LinkedIn

The Curious Advantage explores curiosity and its growing importance in the digital age. From history, neuroscience, and anthropology to business and culture, it takes the widest possible view of curiosity. At its heart is the ‘Sailing the 7C’s of Curiosity’ model, a practical framework to help individuals harness curiosity as a power skill for growth and transformation.
The Curious Advantage is available on Amazon and Audiobook
Follow us on LinkedIn and Instagram
Discover more about The Curious Advantage here

The Curious Advantage Podcast is executive produced by Jessica Wickham and Aliki Paolinelis. Audio editing by Danny Cross and video editing by Jessica Wickham.
37 min
March 18 96: Shawn Vanderhoven: Leadership, Curiosity, Building an Intelligence Culture and the Power of Pause (Partner, Wiseman)
In this episode, Simon Brown and Garrick Jones speak with leadership expert Shawn Vanderhoven about how curiosity, and the often overlooked power of pausing, can transform leadership, decision-making, and team performance.
In a world that rewards speed and constant action, Shawn challenges the assumption that great leaders need to move faster. Instead, he explores how creating space, through better questions, clearer priorities, and intentional pauses, can unlock stronger thinking and more meaningful contributions across teams.
Drawing on insights from his book Pause: How to Lead Brilliant Work in a Busy World, Shawn shares practical strategies for building an intelligence culture, avoiding common leadership traps, and helping teams focus on what truly matters. The conversation offers a fresh perspective on how leaders can shift from doing more to enabling better work.
Show Links
Shawn's LinkedIn
Wiseman Group
Pause: How to Lead Brilliant Work in a Busy World available on Amazon
The Curious Advantage explores curiosity and its growing importance in the digital age. From history, neuroscience, and anthropology to business and culture, it takes the widest possible view of curiosity. At its heart is the ‘Sailing the 7C’s of Curiosity’ model, a practical framework to help individuals harness curiosity as a power skill for growth and transformation.
The Curious Advantage is available on Amazon and Audiobook
Follow us on LinkedIn and Instagram
Discover more about The Curious Advantage here

The Curious Advantage Podcast is executive produced by Jessica Wickham and Aliki Paolinelis. Audio editing by Danny Cross and video editing by Jessica Wickham.
45 min
February 25 95: Rich Diviney: How to Apply a Navy SEAL’s Attributes Mindset to Your Work and Leadership (Performance Expert)
In this episode of The Curious Advantage, former Navy SEAL officer and human performance expert Rich Diviney joins Simon Brown and Garrick Jones to explore what truly drives leadership, performance under pressure, and the neuroscience behind stress and fear. Drawing on two decades in the SEAL Teams, Rich breaks down why attributes and not skills determine success in high-pressure, high-uncertainty environments.
Rich explains how elite performers build situational awareness, adaptability, and neural agility, and why concepts like dynamic subordination are essential for modern leadership. He dives into the neuroscience of stress management, the role of curiosity in high-stakes decision-making, and how understanding duration, pathway, and outcome can help the brain stay calm under uncertainty.
Whether you’re leading teams, navigating complexity or curious about the psychology behind human performance, this conversation offers powerful insights into attributes, curiosity, and the mindsets required to thrive in chaotic environments.
Show Links:
Attributes Website
Attributes Hub
Rich Diviney LinkedIn
The Attributes: 25 Hidden Drivers of Optimal Performance book is available on Amazon
The Curious Advantage explores curiosity and its growing importance in the digital age. From history, neuroscience, and anthropology to business and culture, it takes the widest possible view of curiosity. At its heart is the ‘Sailing the 7C’s of Curiosity’ model, a practical framework to help individuals harness curiosity as a power skill for growth and transformation.
The Curious Advantage is available on Amazon and Audiobook
Follow us on LinkedIn and Instagram
Discover more about The Curious Advantage here
The Curious Advantage Podcast is executive produced by Jessica Wickham and Aliki Paolinelis. Audio editing by Danny Cross and video editing by Jessica Wickham.
43 min
February 11 94: Salvatore Manzi: The You-Then-Me Principle: The Communication Hack Every Leader Needs (Leadership Coach)
Today we are joined by Salvatore Manzi, a communication and leadership coach who helps data-driven leaders turn expertise into influence.
For over 20 years, Salvatore has guided executives and founders through high-stakes moments, from boardrooms and investor meetings to global stages such as SXSW and the United Nations, and even a U.S. presidential campaign. His work focuses on one critical shift. Moving from information delivery to human connection.
In this episode, he explores why empathy is not a soft skill but a leadership advantage, and introduces his powerful You-Then-Me Principle, starting with acknowledgment, validation, and reflection before sharing your own message. The result is collaboration instead of resistance.
In his book Clear and Compelling: Communication Strategies for Big Thinkers with Bold Ideas, he distills two decades of experience into practical tools that help leaders transform complex ideas into messages that resonate, inspire, and drive action.
Show Links
Find out more about Salvatore Manzi and his work here
Find Salvatore on LinkedIn here

The Curious Advantage explores curiosity and its growing importance in the digital age. From history, neuroscience, and anthropology to business and culture, it takes the widest possible view of curiosity. At its heart is the ‘Sailing the 7C’s of Curiosity’ model, a practical framework to help individuals harness curiosity as a power skill for growth and transformation.
The Curious Advantage is available on Amazon and Audible.
Follow us on LinkedIn and Instagram, and discover more at curiousadvantage.com.
The Curious Advantage Podcast is executive produced by Jessica Wickham and Aliki Paolinelis. Audio editing by Danny Cross | Video editing by Jessica Wickham.
39 min
January 2893: Art Kleiner: The AI Dilemma: Responsible AI, Bias & Human Values with (Author, The AI Dilemma)
In this episode of The Curious Advantage, Art Kleiner — author of The AI Dilemma — joins Simon Brown & Garrick Jones for a conversation about what it really means to build Responsible AI.
Together, they explore the tensions at the heart of today’s AI landscape: rapid innovation vs accountability, efficiency vs empathy, and the risks of bias, misinformation and unintended consequences. Drawing on the “five fundamental principles” from The AI Dilemma, Art explains why responsible technology requires human judgment, transparency, and a deep understanding of our social systems.
The discussion dives into:
How AI systems amplify human behaviour — good and bad
The rising challenge of misinformation and synthetic media
Where bias enters the system and how organisations can address it
Why empathy, forgiveness and human values are essential to AI governance
What leaders must understand as AI becomes embedded in everyday work
A thoughtful, human conversation about technology, responsibility and how we navigate the future.
Lean More about Art Kleiner and his work here
About The Curious Advantage
The Curious Advantage is available on Amazon and Audible.
Follow us on LinkedIn and Instagram, and discover more at curiousadvantage.com.
The Curious Advantage explores curiosity and its growing importance in the digital age. From history, neuroscience, and anthropology to business and culture, it takes the widest possible view of curiosity. At its heart is the ‘Sailing the 7C’s of Curiosity’ model, a practical framework to help individuals harness curiosity as a power skill for growth and transformation.
The Curious Advantage Podcast is executive produced by Jessica Wickham and Aliki Paolinelis. Audio editing by Danny Cross | Video editing by Jessica Wickham.
1 hr
January 23 FBF | The Future of Work, Frontier Firms, Agent Bosses, AI & 2025 Work Trend Index with Alexia Cambon
FBF -- Flashback Friday
In this throwback episode of The Curious Advantage Podcast, Simon Brown, Paul Ashcroft and Garrick Jones speak with Alexia Cambon, Senior Director of Research at Microsoft, about how AI is transforming work and what sets today’s Frontier Firms apart.
They explore insights from Microsoft’s Work Trend Index—including Agent Bosses, digital labour, and Intelligence on Tap—and discuss how curiosity, leadership, and HR are evolving in an AI-powered world.
🎧 Listen & explore the 2025 Work Trend Index:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/worklab/work-trend-index/2025-the-year-the-frontier-firm-is-born

49 min
January 16 FBF | Curiosity in the Flow of Work with Josh Bersin
FBF -- Flashback Friday
In this episode, global HR and HR technology analyst Josh Bersin, Founder & CEO of The Josh Bersin Company, joins the authors of The Curious Advantage — Paul Ashcroft, Simon Brown and Garrick Jones — to explore curiosity in the flow of work.
They discuss the role of curiosity in learning and people development, how curiosity supports adaptability in a digital-first world, and why curious leaders are critical during periods of disruption.
This episode was originally published on 5th May 2020.
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34 min
January 09 FBF | Tips for Leaders & Fostering Positive Failure with Amy Edmondson
FBF — Flashback Friday
In this episode, Amy Edmondson, Novartis Professor at Harvard Business School, explores curiosity, leadership, and psychological safety in the digital age.
Drawing on The Right Kind of Wrong (named the Financial Times’ #1 Business Book), she shares practical insights on productive failure, learning, and building high-performing teams.
This episode was originally published January 2024.
Want to go deeper?
Discover Amy Edmondson’s work in Right Kind of Wrong or 3 book collection of the Right Kind of Wrong, Leader as Healer & Staring Down the Wolf
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The Curious Advantage Audiobook is also available on Audible
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42 min

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The Curious Advantage Podcast explores how curiosity drives success in the digital age. Hosted by authors and business leaders Paul Ashcroft, Simon Brown, and Garrick Jones, each episode features conversations with global experts across business, science, and culture.