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Stani Kulechov is the founder of Aave, which has become the largest lending protocol in DeFi. Aave has evolved under a new umbrella called Avara, incorporating additional projects like Lens, a Web3 social media protocol, and a family and Web3 wallet. Stani has previously discussed these developments on our show in 2020 and 2022, and with each appearance, the Avara family has expanded significantly. As a prominent leader in the DeFi and Web3 space, Stani's insights are always highly anticipated. In this podcast, we start with a refreshener on Stani and his journey, then dive into the specifics of the protocols he has developed.

0:00 Intro

1:15 Stani Kulechov

4:40 DeFi + Web3 Social

8:53 Lens Protocol

14:28 Developer Community

17:48 Lens Applications

19:58 Lens Stats

25:20 Monetization in Web3 Social

30:27 Token Integration

34:05 Permissionless

37:15 Farcaster

41:10 Lens Token

43:10 Aave

47:10 Competition

48:52 Lens + Aave

50:04 Reaching Mainstream

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Li Jin is a prominent figure in the venture capital industry. She is the co-founder and managing partner at Variant Fund, a venture firm that invests in Web3 and the ownership economy. Before founding Variant, Li Jin worked at Andreessen Horowitz, a leading venture capital firm, where she helped to shape the firm’s views on the emerging tech landscape, including the gig and passion economies. In today's discussion, we delve into memecoins, Web3 social media, and the evolving landscape of token models, examining how these elements are shaping the future of digital economies and influencing user interaction in decentralized networks.

0:00 Intro

1:11 Variant Fund

3:20 Li Jin

4:55 Benefits of Blockchains at Consumer Level

7:55 Web3 Social Media

12:50 Speculative Media

18:20 Memecoin Products

24:24 Censorship

25:47 Web3 GTM Strategy

34:30 Token Models

47:41 Governance Tokens

52:00 Trends

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TN Lee is the founder of Pendle Finance - a DeFi platform that enables users to tokenize and trade future yield on Ethereum assets. Pendle has shown remarkable expansion since the beginning of the year, elevating its TVL from $250 million to over $3 billion in just a few months. In this podcast, we explore the fundamentals of Pendle Finance, providing a comprehensive understanding of one of DeFi's most complex and innovative products. We start off with a background into Lee, then breakdown Pendle's core concepts and gradually dive deeper into Pendle's use cases, risks, and future plans.

0:00 Intro

0:53 TL;DR Pendle

2:06 TN Lee

7:30 Pendle V1

12:13 Growth of Pendle

22:04 Pendle Basics (PT, YT)

30:53 Use Cases

36:25 Pendle Users

38:25 Risks

48:43 Learnings From Kyber

49:39 TradFi vs Pendle

51:20 $PENDLE

58:19 What's Next?

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Tomer Weller is the VP of Product at Stellar, one of the earliest alternative Layer 1 chains that existed before Ethereum. Stellar recently launched Soroban, its smart contract platform, designed to enhance the blockchain's functionality with efficient, developer-friendly tools for building sophisticated applications. In today's conversation, we dive deep into Stellar, overview their fundamentals, reflect on its decade long journey as a Layer 1 blockchain, and have a closer look into the current use cases.

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0:00 Intro

0:58 Stellar Overview

2:01 Tomer Weller

3:48 Stellar Fundamentals

8:49 Being Early

12:06 Smart Contracts

17:26 Attracting Developers

23:09 Use Cases

29:52 Argentina

33:10 Franklin Templeton

36:49 Censorship Resistance

39:30 Scaling

55:17 Stellar Validators

1:00:58 What's Next?

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Erica Kang is the CEO and founder of KryptoSeoul, a leading community building team in South Korea that focuses on blockchain projects. Erica has been a bridge between the East and the West for a very long time, and today we get to dive deep into her journey. She grew up in Korea, then moved to the United States and did a stint in Vietnam. She has not only reshaped the blockchain landscape, but she's also championed a new era of community driven empowerment. Before we dive into all of that, Erica will share a little bit about how she first got involved in the crypto community.

0:00 Intro

0:48 Community in Crypto

5:16 Erika Kang's Personal Journey

8:03 Differences in Culture

13:12 BUIDL Asia + ETH Seoul

15:47 Crypto Projects in Korea

20:30 Kimchi Premium

22:20 Information Flow

26:55 BTC as SOV

30:09 Terra's Implosion

33:00 KryptoSeoul Community

38:17 Events in Asia

40:50 How are you defiant?

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In today's podcast we host two guests: Kevin Owocki, co-founder of Gitcoin, and Meg Lister, GM at Gitcoin Grants Labs. Gitcoin is a platform that connects developers with open-source projects for funding, collaboration, and building digital public goods through various forms of contribution like coding, design, and more. In our conversation we learn about the origin story of Gitcoin and breakdown the main funding mechanisms, such as quadratic funding and retroactive funding, benefits of onchain capital allocation over traditional funding mechanisms, and we delve into Allo Protocol, an open-source protocol that enables groups to efficiently and transparently allocate pooled capital.

0:00 Intro

1:37 Kevin Owocki and Meg Lister

4:12 The Story of Gitcoin

12:39 Quadratic and Retroactive Funding

18:21 Main Usecases

24:35 Grants Programs in the Bull

28:44 Onchain Capital Allocation

33:53 Allo Protocol

37:33 Gitcoin Token

38:17 Revenue

41:01 Ultimate Vision

49:05 Fiat Onramps

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Evan Cheng is the Co-founder & CEO at Mysten Labs, which is the team behind Sui Network. In their words, Sui is a Layer 1 blockchain and smart contract platform "designed to make digital asset ownership fast, private, secure, and accessible". In our conversation we explore the potential of this up and coming Layer 1 by learning about the underlying motivation of the founder, what makes it different from other blockchains, in particular Aptos, the current main uses cases, and more.

0:00 Intro

1:06 Who is Evan Cheng

8:32 Why Web2 doesn't work

12:05 Lessons from building Libra

15:46 Sui vs Other Layer 1s

27:11 Modular Blockchains

28:50 Sui Use Cases

33:51 Challenges of usng Move

36:43 Future of DeFi

44:00 Bull Market 2024

46:12 Incentive Program on Sui

51:30 Future of Blockchains

53:50 What's Next for Sui?

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Guy Young is the founder and CEO of Ethena Labs, which is the entity behind Ethena, the synthetic dollar protocol built on Ethereum. Ethena also introduces a universally available dollar-linked savings option known as the 'Internet Bond'. Ethena introduces an innovative stablecoin model. Throughout our discussion, we thoroughly explore the mechanics and intricacies of Ethena, gaining a deeper understanding of its operation and the risks involved.

0:00 Intro

1:24 Guy Young's Background and Ethena Origin Story

5:33 How is USDe Different?

11:56 Off Exchange Provider Risks

20:23 ETH Short Positions

31:08 Insurance Fund

38:35 USDe Scalability

42:44 New Collateral

45:35 Staked ETH Depeg

48:48 Stablecoin / USDe Use Cases

57:33 Ethena Airdrop

1:00:00 Biggest Risk

1:02:42 Success for Ethena

1:05:40 Revenue

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