The Desire Line

The Desire Line

By Susette Magana, M.A., (Therapist) & Brandon Cook, B.A., M.St. (Pastor)Health & FitnessMental HealthReligion & SpiritualityChristianity
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  • 46 | Enneagram Numbers 8 - 4 | Personality VI

    Bryan's back...alright! This week we're diving into further discussion on two of the three intelligence centers covered in the previous episode. If you are not caught up, we highly suggest you give episode 45 a listen. If you are bummed we didn't cover your enneagram number in this episode, have no fear, we will be continuing our conversation in the following ep. So keep your eyes peeled!

    Bryan Rouanzion is the Pastor of Teaching and Formation at Canopy Church in Costa Mesa, California.

    51 min
  • 45 | Enneagram: Body, Heart & Mind Triads | Personality V

    Personality reigns supreme. This week we're diving in to The Enneagram with friend-of-the-podcast, Bryan Rouanzoin. With ancient roots that transformed into a further exploration and understanding in the 20th century, The Enneagram taps into a deeper sense of human personality and archetype within all of us. We talk the nine types and how they divide into three separate centers existing within our own bodies. All of this with the hope that you, the listener, will consider it a helpful invitation to know thyself.

    Bryan Rouanzion is the Pastor of Teaching and Formation at Canopy Church in Costa Mesa, California.

    1 hr 14 min
  • 44 | Myers Briggs & Prayer | Personality IV

    We're back with another episode on personality! Today we discuss the different ways that we seek God. We touch on how this correlates to our Myers-Briggs, strength praying/playing and what functionally puts you in touch with the divine. Thanks so much for tuning in, we hope you enjoy!

    NBC's One To Grow On

    Four Temperaments:

    -Sanguine

    -Choleric

    -Melancholic

    -Phlegmatic

    Episode 15: M Scott Peck

    C.S Lewis Dark Night Of The Soul

    Romans 14

    1 Corinthians 8

    "I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. - John 15:5

    "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law" Galatians 5:22-23

    Please Understand Me - David Keirsey

    Idealist

    Rationalist

    Artisan

    Gaurdian

    Who We Are Is How We Pray - Charles Keating

    56 min
  • 43 | The Four Temperaments | Personality III

    In our 3rd episode on Personality, we dive into the Four "Ancient" Temperaments first introduced by Galen of Pergamon, a Greek physician and surgeon. We talk our own individual reflections on the aforementioned identities, the utilization of these in popular media and how Keirsey realigned them to work alongside the Meyer-Briggs theory on personality. All of this and more, to ultimately learn how to make sense of your identity while also living in peace with those around you.

    Dr. David Keirsey was an American psychologist, a professor emeritus at California State University, Fullerton, and the author of several books. With a focus on conflict management and cooperation, Keirsey specialized in family and partnership counseling and the coaching of children and adults.

    Episodes 25-29 of Desire Line Podcast- Attachment Theory

    Sermon On The Mount: Judging

    Romans 1 & 2: Sexuality

    Stage II: the stage at which a person has blind faith in authority figures and sees the world as divided simply into good and evil, right and wrong, us and them. Once children learn to obey their parents and other authority figures, often out of fear or shame, they reach Stage II. Many so-called religious people are essentially Stage II people, in the sense that they have blind faith in God, and do not question His existence. With blind faith comes humility and a willingness to obey and serve. The majority of good, law-abiding citizens never move out of Stage II.

    Matthew 22:21 Jesus said "Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and to God the things that are God's." ... For there is no authority except from God and those which exist are established by God." If the law of the land is that everyone must pay war taxesthen that is what we must do. It is the law!

    Ezekiel 36:26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh

    1 hr 3 min
  • 42| Understanding Our Strengths | Myers Briggs | Personality II

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    In the second episode in our arc on personality, we dive into Personality Theory, taking on the questions that are essential to the human paradigm... How am I different from you? How are you different from me? How do see the world and learn about it? How do we make decisions?

    Personality theory, as we understand it in pop culture, is about unique gifts & individuality and how we interface with the world. In other words: How I'm different from you, and how we can live in relationship with these differences. Maximizing our strengths, appreciating our differences. We can choose to not live in judgment of our weaknesses.

    This speaks beautifully to the Desire Line path -- sometimes following the paved path doesn't bring the results it promises (union with God), because we're made in a way that doesn't fit the model. We have to discover our God-given way of walking.

    All of these and more in this episode. We hope you stay tuned!

    Heres some trusted MB links:

    https://www.myersbriggs.org/my-mbti-personality-type/mbti-basics/home.htm?bhcp=1

    https://keirsey.com/temperament-overview/

    Click here for the Brene Brown Anatomy of Trust video

    1 hr 10 min
  • 41| Personality, Temperament & Unique Identity | Personality I

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    In this episode, we begin our arc on Personality Theories, and how they inform who we are. These next few episodes will cover the Myers-Briggs, the Enneagram, and other theories (like the 4 Temperaments). We'll look at what they have in common, how they differ, and how they teach us about how we experience the world & make decisions in life.

    We talk "subjective vs. objective" personality theories, meaning, they're self-assessed. Personality assessments are about discovering meaning in your relationships more than finding concrete facts about yourself.

    "The unexamined life is not worth living" - Socrates

    Imago Dei ("image of God") ("image of God"): A theological term, applied uniquely to humans, which denotes the symbolical relation between God and humanity. ... To say that humans are in the image of God is to recognize the special qualities of human nature which allow God to be made manifest in humans.

    Flesh vs. Spirit:

    For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.

    Galatians 5:17

    False self vs True self:

    You, however, are not in the realm of the flesh but are in the realm of the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, they do not belong to Christ.

    Romans 8:9

    "Everyone of us is shadowed by an illusory person: a false self..We are not very good at recognizing illusions, least of all the ones we cherish about ourselves."

    -Thomas Merton

    Henri Nouwen was a Dutch Catholic priest, professor, writer and theologian. His interests were rooted primarily in psychology, pastoral ministry, spirituality, social justice and community.

    "Joy is the most vulnerable emotion" - Brene Brown

    Brene Brown is a research professor at the University of Houston. She has spent the past two decades studying courage, vulnerability, shame, and empathy and is the author of five #1 New York Times bestsellers: The Gifts of Imperfection, Daring Greatly, Rising Strong, Braving the Wilderness, and her latest book, Dare to Lead, which is the culmination of a seven-year study on courage and leadership.

    Matthew 23:26 You blind Pharisee! First wash the inside of the cup and the dish, and then the outside will become clean, too.

    "Frankly, there isn't anyone you couldn't learn to love once you've heard their story"

    -Fred Rogers

    1 hr 10 min
  • 40 | Redemption thru Prayer & Reconciliation | Interview | Kristy Hinds, Author & Pastor

    Today is a stand alone episode with Pastor & Author Kristy Hinds & Susette. Kristy worked for years at a local Long Beach church as an Associate Pastor, now works in her denomination as a District Superintendent. Or, a "Pastor for Pastors."

    She has recently written a book called "Redeemed: The Power of a Single Story."

    Kristy and Susette talk about her experience with leading a group on Racial Reconciliation, and how they used prayer & a model from Ephesians 4 to join the group first in Unity in Christ before discussing their experiences & pain with each other.

    We missed Brandon in this episode! He'll be back in the next arc on Personality (starting with Episode 41). Yea for personality theory!

    Check out Kristy Hinds' Book:

    Ephesians 4

    Genesis 1:2 Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness covered the surface of the watery depths, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the surface of the waters." "And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters

    Listening Prayer:

    1. Relax your brain, either by walking or sitting still. Get comfortable.

    2. Notice your breathing, and slow it down in order to reduce your heart rate and any racing thoughts.

    3. Think on things of God, prepare your mind to listen to Him.

    Here's some ideas:

    • The Trinity. God the Father, Jesus the Son, and The Holy Spirit. Think about passages like Romans 8:26 that talk about how they interact.
    • God is Love (John 1 or 1 John)
    • Names for God
      • "Almighty Creator" - God creates and sustains the world
      • God sees me
      • God is Peace
      • God Will Provide
      • God is my protector
      • God heals
      • The Lord is present with us
      • God Emmanuel - God is with us

    4. Sit silently. Ask God to speak

    1 hr 10 min
  • 39 | Violence | Understanding the Bible VII

    We finish our arc on Understanding the Bible, and our discussion on "Weird Bits" of the Bible that can bring up fear or doubt (cont'd from Episode 38). In this ep, we look at Violence in the Bible, and use Greg Boyd's perspective on how to view it.

    Click here to listen to our previous episode

    "If you're outside on a day when you can only catch glimpses of the sun, it means it's a mostly cloudy day. So, as we read the OT, we should remain aware that these authors had a rather cloudy vision of God."

    Gregory A. Boyd, Cross Vision

    John 17

    Philemon Slave Story

    Ephesians 5:22

    Deut 20:16-18

    Tutti Frutti - Little Richard

    Galatians 3:24

    "I've to come to reveal the true heart of the law" - Romans 2:15

    Gregory Boyd - podcast

    Hermeneutic def: concerning interpretation, especially of the Bible or literary texts.

    1 Corinthians 13:12: For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

    Colossians 1:15

    2 Corinthians 4:6

    Cognitive dissonance def: the state of having inconsistent thoughts, beliefs, or attitudes, especially as relating to behavioral decisions and attitude change.

    Psalm 137:9 "May the babies of our enemies be dashed against the rocks"

    Marvin Wilson - Our Father Abraham

    John 15:5

    Exodus 14:14

    1 hr 16 min
  • 38 | Weird Bits: Inerrancy & Infallibility | Understanding the Bible VI

    Weird bits of the bible. They're there. Now what do we do with them? In this episode we dive into scripture, wrestling with the inconsistencies, theological differences and other instances in the bible that can sometimes give a bit of a gut punch. We discuss our own personal journey's, different schools of thought and resting in the trust of God despite these feelings.

    How do the parts of the bible that don't make sense, or seem to not fit, inform our faith?

    How can our perspective on scripture move from cognitive dissonance to doubt & questioning to trusting Jesus before anything else?

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    Process Theology: is the philosophical and theological position that God is changing, as is the universe.

    Open theism: "Open theism," also known as "openness theology," the "openness of God," and "free will theism," is an attempt to explain the foreknowledge of God in relationship to the free will of man. The argument of open theism is essentially this: human beings are truly free; if God absolutely knew the future, human beings could not truly be free. Therefore, God does not know absolutely everything about the future. Open theism holds that the future is not knowable. Therefore, God knows everything that can be known, but He does not know the future.

    The Geneva Conventions comprise four treaties, and three additional protocols, that establish the standards of international law for humanitarian treatment in war.

    Dallas Albert Willard was an American philosopher also known for his writings on Christian spiritual formation. Much of his work in philosophy was related to phenomenology, particularly the work of Edmund Husserl, many of whose writings he translated into English for the first time.

    Marks Account Of Jesus

    Matthew's Account Of Jesus

    1 Kings 15:14

    2 Chronicles 14:2

    Click here to listen to our episodes on M Scott Pecks Four Stages Of Spiritual Development

    Psalm 12:6

    2 Timothy 3:16-17

    59 min

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A therapist and a pastor discuss Jesus, psychology and spiritual formation. Susette Magana, Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Brandon Cook, Pastor of Long Beach Christian Fellowship Church,…