What Rough Beast

The Dictator Expert Who's Not Worried


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This week we sit down with Alastair Smith, author of The Dictator's Handbook, who thinks we might all need to take a deep breath about American democracy.

We discuss:

* How it's actually better to lose in a real democracy than win under a wannabe dictator (and the math that proves it)

* Why keeping 22 million voters happy is fundamentally different from bribing 100 cronies, and what that means for whether you get roads or just graft

* How Trump might be accidentally sabotaging himself with tariffs and Fed-bashing (markets hate uncertainty, who knew?)

* The bizarre difference between old-school Pravda propaganda and our current hellscape of lizard-people theories and testicle tanning

* Real-time institutional resistance: from the FBI actually protecting threatened journalists to Jerome Powell's magnificent "I'm not stepping down" moment

* Why this political scientist—who studies how dictatorships actually work—still thinks our messy, frustrating democracy has more fight left than we realize

Fair warning: this conversation might leave you feeling weirdly hopeful about America. We know, we're surprised too.

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