* Explicit content alert* There is a healthy amount of swearing in this episode, so if that's an edge of your comfort zone you're happy to keep where it is or you have children around, you might want to skip this one or grab your headphones.
Traver Boehm is a former MMA fighter who's also an acupuncturist, TEDx speaker and the founder of #UNcivilized, a movement inspiring millions of men to shift their experience of masculinity.
Betsy and Traver talk about how cage fighting gave him a fundamental relationship with discomfort, how men's inability to express emotion is literally killing them and how the UNcivilized movement is changing that.
Follow Traver on IG @traverboehm and find out more about his book, his talks and the UNcivilized movement on his website manuncivilized.com
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