On this episode the boys start the Pod by acknowledging the passing of Radio and TV legend Bob Mabena, we segue into discussing the Instagram post by Bob Mabena's ex girlfriend and mother of one of his kids she posted in remembrance. We move into a deeper discussion on the various situations that may arise after the passing of someone and the many sides of a person that converge upon their passing. sticking to that vein we discuss the Simz Ngema pregnancy announcement more specifically how long people wait after the passing of a partner do people move on. We ponder on the age and the power dynamics in relationships in reference to the tweet posted by Simz new BF. We discuss the impact of COVID on events and look at how events may change post COVID. We ask the question is it OK to ask how a person has died?. We speak on how we actually are how we present ourselves on social media. We end the discussion on the duality of people more specifically our leaders.