The Dr. Robyn McKay Show

In this episode, Dr. Robyn McKay sits down with psychotherapist and coach Lesley Martin to explore what happens when clinicians who are also spiritually gifted stop splitting themselves in two — and begin integrating their intuitive intelligence directly into their therapeutic practice.

This episode explores:

• Why spiritually gifted therapists are trained to leave their gifts at the door

• The real cost of running separate therapy and coaching practices

• How burnout during the pandemic catalyzed a deeper professional evolution

• Honoring clients' spiritual worldviews while suppressing your own

• What the neuroscience of intuition reveals about clinical decision-making

• How to ethically and responsibly bring spiritual modalities into psychotherapy

• Why people are inherently whole — and what it means to help them access that

For those of us who are credentialed and spiritually awake, the question has never been whether these gifts belong in the room — it's how to bring them forward with integrity, competency, and care. This conversation is for every clinician, coach, and healer who has ever felt the cost of keeping themselves divided.

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Lesley Martín, MA, LMHC, NCC, CLC, is a Licensed Mental Health Counselor, Certified Life Coach, and trauma-informed practitioner who helps high achievers move beyond fear, doubt, and insecurity to create more authentic, fulfilling lives. With over 15 years of experience in holistic psychotherapy, she specializes in trauma healing, EMDR, and integrative approaches that support lasting transformation. Through her coaching work, Lesley guides clients in building self-confidence, expanding their potential, and stepping into a more empowered version of themselves.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lesley-martin-lmhc-conscious-holistic-guide-and-therapist-3118a016/ 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lesleyamymartin/ 

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Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

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In today’s episode, Dr. Robyn McKay is joined by Suzy Batiz-Young, founder of Poo~Pourri, to explore how her faith became an anchor that transformed both her life and her success in business.

This episode explores:

• Learning through experiential education

• How Suzy Batiz-Young healed from religious trauma

• How her relationship with God guided her in business

• Why trauma can lead to a need for control

• How personal development begins within

• Understanding God as a guiding and unifying presence

• Tapping into the power of prayer

• Why living in peace and gratitude matters

• The deeper gift within forgiveness

Suzy shares how the love of God shows up in her life, and how her faith became a powerful foundation for creating meaningful impact in both her personal journey and her work.

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Suzy Batiz-Young is the founder of Poo~Pourri and supernatural, known for her pattern-breaking thinking, intuitive approach, and innovative leadership. A creator at heart, she develops transformative products that elevate everyday spaces and experiences, while guiding her company’s vision, product expansion, and bold, unconventional marketing strategies.

Website: https://pourri.com/ 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzybatiz/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SuzyBatiz/ 

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Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

Connect with Dr. Robyn McKay:

LinkedIn: Robyn McKay, PhD

Facebook: Dr. Robyn McKay

Instagram: @robynmckayphd 

Book a call with Dr. Robyn! https://drrobynmckay.com/call 

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In this episode, Dr. Robyn McKay explores the distinction between dream states and more intentional experiences such as astral travel—often described as the sense of consciousness moving beyond the body while the body remains at rest.

This episode explores:

• Who experiences astral travel

• How and where consciousness is engaged

• Consciousness within post-traumatic stress experiences

• Understanding the idea of a consciousness “multiverse” on an individual basis

• Preserving and restoring human consciousness

• How to practice dream journaling

• How the unconscious mind communicates through dreams

Our unconscious mind—and the deepest parts of who we are—often speak to us through our dreams. Learning to listen with curiosity and openness allows us to receive the meaning and insight they may hold for us.

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Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

Connect with Dr. Robyn McKay:

LinkedIn: Robyn McKay, PhD

Facebook: Dr. Robyn McKay

Instagram: @robynmckayphd 

Book a call with Dr. Robyn! https://drrobynmckay.com/call 

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In today’s episode, Dr. Robyn McKay explores the question: Why am I having recurring dreams? Whether it’s being back in a math class you never attended—or dreaming that your teeth are falling out—many people experience recurring dreams without fully understanding the message beneath them.

This episode explores:

• Why we dream about our teeth falling out

• How starvation and nourishment can appear symbolically in dreams

• Why recurring dreams are often connected to stress

• Looking at the energy behind recurring dreams

• Why we do not remember some of our dreams

• Exploring each aspect of a dream

• Why it can be meaningful to interpret dreams with someone we care about

• How passed loved ones may connect with us through dreams

Interpreting recurring dreams invites curiosity, and this is your reminder that if a dream feels meaningful to you and brings a sense of peace or insight, it is okay to let that truth be yours.

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Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

Connect with Dr. Robyn McKay:

LinkedIn: Robyn McKay, PhD

Facebook: Dr. Robyn McKay

Instagram: @robynmckayphd 

Book a call with Dr. Robyn! https://drrobynmckay.com/call 

Get access to The Energy Shield Protocol: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/64aa986317cf480e0b5faa2e

In this episode, Dr. Robyn McKay explores dream interpretation and explains why we are the only ones who can truly interpret our own dreams—and why outside interpretations can sometimes cause a dream’s deeper meaning to fall flat.

This episode explores:

• Why only we can interpret our dreams

• How our minds process daily experiences through dreams

• Understanding dreams through a Gestalt perspective

• Exploring and analyzing every part of the dream

• Why every element of a dream reflects a part of the dreamer

• Why dream dictionaries often fall short

The most helpful way to support someone in exploring their dream is to step into curiosity and ask, “If this were my dream, what might it mean?”—and then allow the dreamer to decide whether that reflection resonates with them.

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Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

Connect with Dr. Robyn McKay:

LinkedIn: Robyn McKay, PhD

Facebook: Dr. Robyn McKay

Instagram: @robynmckayphd 

Book a call with Dr. Robyn! https://drrobynmckay.com/call 

In today’s episode, Dr. Robyn McKay sits down with one of America’s top female chefs, Lisa Dahl, to explore how creativity can lead the path to finding our purpose and healing from loss and the experiences that hold us back.

This episode explores:

• How Chef Lisa Dahl found her path to business

• Bringing a genuine sense of connection to the community

• How hospitality creates meaningful connections

• How Chef Lisa Dahl found her way into the food industry

• Loss, grief, and beginning life again

• Maintaining a connection with a loved one who has passed

• Making meaning in life after loss

• How restaurants can offer connective healing

• Finding work that becomes a healthy outlet

• Why restaurants become emotional storyboards

If we tap into the truth of who we are, honor the tapestry of our memories, and seek our creative spirit, we can build work that creates impact for ourselves and for others.

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Chef Lisa Dahl leads an empire of exquisite restaurants in beautiful Sedona, AZ that are ranked among the best dining destinations in the country for nearly 30 years. She has been among the upper echelon of women chefs/restaurateurs, leading a revolution in organic farm-to-fork foodways while showing the culinary industry that dreams do come true through grit, innovation, and top-shelf hospitality. Her fine dining flagship, Mariposa Latin Inspired Grill, has garnered global recognition since its opening in 2015, and her acclaimed first restaurant venture, Dahl & Di Luca, was just ranked 7th in the country in TripAdvisor’s “Travelers’ Choice Awards” of “Best of the Best” Date Night restaurants.

Connect with Chef Lisa:

Website: https://www.cheflisadahl.com/ 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisadahlsedona 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisadahlsedona/ 

Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

Connect with Dr. Robyn McKay:

LinkedIn: Robyn McKay, PhD

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Instagram: @robynmckayphd 

Book a call with Dr. Robyn! https://drrobynmckay.com/call 

In today’s episode, Dr. Robyn McKay talks about how we can hold space as leaders and healers through retreats and group events with intention and steadiness.

This episode explores:

• Holding everyone’s energy as a leader

• Knowing where your space ends and another’s begins

• Practical guidance for facilitating retreats

• How leaders establish and maintain healthy boundaries

• Why every person in a retreat has a meaningful role to play

• How to gently guide everyone toward the spirit and purpose of the retreat

Because we must allow each person to use their strengths while honoring our own responsibility, without overserving or overextending ourselves.

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Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

Connect with Dr. Robyn McKay:

LinkedIn: Robyn McKay, PhD

Facebook: Dr. Robyn McKay

Instagram: @robynmckayphd 

Book a call with Dr. Robyn! https://drrobynmckay.com/call 

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In today’s episode, Dr. Robyn McKay dives into holding space through communication and technology, especially through emails, texts, and online platforms, and how tone and emotion are shared and received in these spaces.

This episode explores:

• How emotionally sensitive individuals can assume tone in written messages

• Why it matters to be present and grounded before sending an email

• Why nervous system regulation is vital in digital communication

• Being mindful of the energy we bring into our conversations

• How energetically sensitive people receive and interpret emails

• Why you do not always have to read or respond to an email right away

• Speaking openly about the emotions we notice within ourselves

If you have already done the clearing work, trust the energy that is coming through you and care for it with intention.

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Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

Connect with Dr. Robyn McKay:

LinkedIn: Robyn McKay, PhD

Facebook: Dr. Robyn McKay

Instagram: @robynmckayphd 

Book a call with Dr. Robyn! https://drrobynmckay.com/call 

Set a clear energetic perimeter in minutes. Get instant access here: https://view.flodesk.com/pages/64aa986317cf480e0b5faa2e

In this eye-opening conversation, Dr. Robyn McKay goes back to Psychotherapy 101 and dives into the true meaning of holding space. Specifically, what it takes to create a healing environment and how leaders can hold space without absorbing the energy around them.

This episode explores:

• What holding space looks like in real time

• The challenges of holding space as an empath

• How to discern your own energy and emotions

• The energetic discipline required to hold space well

• How our internal state informs the client relationship

• Why presence itself creates opportunities for transformation

Holding space isn’t a one-time skill. It’s an ongoing practice of awareness, regulation, and embodied presence.

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Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

Connect with Dr. Robyn McKay:

LinkedIn: Robyn McKay, PhD

Facebook: Dr. Robyn McKay

Instagram: @robynmckayphd 

Book a call with Dr. Robyn! https://drrobynmckay.com/call 

In this powerful episode, Dr. Robyn McKay goes deeper into the conversations patients need to be having with their intuitive clinicians and healthcare providers. She explores why intuitive medicine is shaping the future of healthcare, why intuition matters for every leader, and how it’s redefining healing and caregiving.

This episode explores:

• Why being an intuitive should be honored

• How Western healing is converging with intuition

• Why intuition is going to be the major leadership ability

• Why intuition is a respected and valued asset

• What patients actually want from practitioners

• How tools are dependent on our nervous system

• How to use intuition for deeper discernment

• The need for an entirely holistic way of healing

• Why we should start feeling safe in our own skin

If you’re an intuitively intelligent physician or clinician, this is your moment to honor your gifts and consciously integrate intuition into the way you practice and lead.

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Robyn McKay, PhD, is an award-winning therapist and psychospiritual advisor who teaches and leads at the intersection of psychology × spirituality × energetics. With deep roots in clinical psychology and a lifetime of living at the crossroads of intuition and credentials, she is a rare bridge between science and soul, credentials and codes, strategy and spirit.

Early in her career, Robyn served as a university psychologist before stepping into her broader calling as a guide for high performers, creatives, and seekers. She addresses a wide spectrum of human experience — healing trauma, anxiety, depression, mood disorders, and ADHD in women; accessing spiritual gifts; and navigating existential crossroads.

Having sold $2.5M+ in retreats and private intensives, Robyn is now architecting an entirely new category of retreats: expert-led, trauma-informed, miracle-level. She helps credentialed, neurodivergent, and spiritually awake women leaders design transformational retreats that carry depth, meaning, and lasting impact.

Connect with Dr. Robyn McKay:

LinkedIn: Robyn McKay, PhD

Facebook: Dr. Robyn McKay

Instagram: @robynmckayphd 

Book a call with Dr. Robyn! https://drrobynmckay.com/call 

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