Yes, the dreamer is the only one who knows what their dream means, and yet the dreamer also has profound blind spots about their own dreams. This is what I call the Dreamer’s Paradox.​ I talk about this idea and about my Treasure Hunt approach to dreamwork in this solo show which was originally released last summer. After the break, we take a comment from engineer Rick Kleffel saying that his favorite author Alan Moore often gets inspiration from his dreams. We are then joined by Steven E. Popp, host of KSQD’s “In The Garden” show, who comes on the air and tells us about a dream in which a huge feline, a cross between a lion and tiger, wreaks great havoc.

BIO: Katherine Bell, PhD is from Santa Cruz. She has hosted the weekly interview podcast The Dream Journal since 2019. She has been facilitating dream groups and workshops for over 30 years, has been a coach for over 10. She is in the editing phase of her first book. Katherine is on the IASD Board of Directors and the Ethics Committee and is Conference Planning Co-Chair. 

Find our guest at: ExperientialDreamwork.com and on FB, IG, LI, LT, and YT at @ExperientialDreamwork #TheDreamJournal

This show, episode number 312, was broadcast May 25, 2025, a replay from a live show recorded September 28, 2024 at KSQD.org, community radio of Santa Cruz.

Intro and outro music by Mood Science. Ambient music new every week by Rick Kleffel. Archived music can be found at Pandemiad.com. Many thanks to Rick for also engineering the show and to Tony Russomano for answering the phones.

The Santa Cruz Festival of Dreams is coming October 10-12, 2025! Mark your calendars now. Check our landing page at FestivalofDream.net and FB group page HERE or follow #KeepSantaCruzDreaming on FB and IG.

SHARE A DREAM FOR THE SHOW or a question or enquire about being a guest on the podcast by emailing Katherine Bell at [email protected]. Follow on FB, IG, LI, & YT @ExperientialDreamwork #thedreamjournal. To learn more or to inquire about exploring your own dreams go to ExperientialDreamwork.com.

The Dream Journal aims to:

A dream can be meaningful even if you don’t know what it means.

The Dream Journal is produced at and airs on KSQD Santa Cruz, 90.7 FM. Catch it streaming LIVE at KSQD.org 10-11am Pacific Time on Saturdays. Call or text with your dreams or questions at 831-900-5773 or email at [email protected]. Podcasts are available on all major podcast platforms the Monday following the live show. The complete KSQD Dream Journal podcast page can be found at ksqd.org/the-dream-journal/.

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