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The End of Programming is Nigh


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s the end of programming nigh?

If you ask Matt Welsh, he'd say yes. As Richard McManus wrote on The New Stack, Welsh is a former professor of computer science at Harvard who spoke at a virtual meetup of the Chicago Association for Computing Machinery (ACM), explaining his thesis that ChatGPT and GitHub Copilot represent the beginning of the end of programming.

Welsh joined us on The New Stack Makers to discuss his perspectives about the end of programming and answer questions about the future of computer science, distributed computing, and more.

Welsh is now the founder of fixie.ai, a platform they are building to let companies develop applications on top of large language models to extend with different capabilities.

For 40 to 50 years, programming language design has had one goal. Make it easier to write programs, Welsh said in the interview.

Still, programming languages are complex, Welsh said. And no amount of work is going to make it simple. 

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