The American Spy author Lauren Wilkinson, hailed by none other than President Obama, talks to former Jihad supporter turned undercover Canadian counter terrorism operative Mubin Shaikh. Host Rory Bremner hears about everything from how to foil a terrorist plot and AK47 envy to the moment you realise you’ve made a terrible error of judgement. 

Series Producer: Paulo Garrett. A Cup and Nuzzle Production. From Spyscape, the home of secrets.