"Healing is really important on the path to success. No matter how successful we get, no matter how much money, no matter how many accolades, if we don't have a healthy relationship to ourselves, nothing ever feels enough,"- Natalia Benson
My guest today struggled with cocaine addiction and was addicted to alcohol when she moved to LA, but Astrology helped her turn her life around because it spoke truth to her and helped her return to herself.
Today, I bring you Natalia Benson, a master of astrology, birth charts, and soul blueprints. She's also a brilliant businesswoman who has brought the spiritual edge to the CEO life and the business world.
Natalia walks us through her personal journey of overcoming addiction, how she started her spiritual practice, the pitfalls of self-sabotage, and the dangers of allowing fear to hinder our progress.
Listen in as Natalia discusses her journey towards cultivating accountability and self-awareness and how incorporating vulnerability, spirituality, and self-awareness practices through astrology and the Enneagram can provide a holistic approach to understanding ourselves and our businesses.
Plus, Natalia shares information about her coaching program, the Capricorn Academy, which is geared towards high-level business owners who want to deepen their sense of organization and leadership. If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts. And reach out with any follow-up questions or comments via DM on Instagram. You can also find additional resources on my website at TracyOMalley.com.
What You Will Learn
How astrology can help you gain self-awareness and speak truth to yourself
Standing in your superpowers—the importance of self-awareness and understanding yourself to make better decisions
How to integrate spirituality and self-awareness into your business
Why vulnerability is essential for more meaningful connections and growth in business
The power of financial education and Literacy for personal and business success
How to use astrology to understand your potential and identify gaps in your business
The transformative potential of spirituality and self-awareness in leading a fulfilling, purpose-driven life
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"I started to realize that I needed to repackage the message, simplify it, and frame it for people [so] that when talking about what we need to do to operate more successfully and effectively as a team, I don't mean we have to scrap it. There are small disruptive things that we can do that have a huge impact."- Lia Garvin
My guest today struggled as a woman in a male-dominated field where she noticed issues with team communication and exclusion—now she uses her message to help transform businesses.
Today, I bring you Lia Garvin, a legendary business consultant and Triad type (1-3-8) "Justice fighter" known for her ability to streamline processes and help businesses and entrepreneurs grow and get results without the chaos.
Listen in as Lia walks us through her framework for helping businesses streamline and improve their processes, including the six key dimensions of an effective team and the importance of focusing on the "how" of getting things done in business rather than just the "what" and "why."
Tune in as Lia shares how learning about her Enneagram type improved her relationship with her husband by helping her understand their differences in communication and perspective.
Join us as we explore strategies for effective team management and leadership, focusing on leveraging the Enneagram to better understand yourself (and others) and improve communication and collaboration. Plus, how to get Lia's OPS Playbook, so you can do more with less and create a more balanced and sustainable work-life integration.
If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts. And reach out with any follow-up questions or comments via DM on Instagram. You can also find additional resources on my website at TracyOMalley.com.
What You Will Learn
How to be more open-minded and collaborative when solving problems with your team
Why it’s VITAL to be clear about what you want out of a conversation (sharing, problem-solving, venting, etc.) to help prevent misunderstandings
How high-achieving individuals (especially women) can benefit from using the Enneagram to manage their various roles and responsibilities better
How the Enneagram leads to understanding your strengths
How the Enneagram can help you recognize (and value) the strengths of others for more effective collaboration.
The key to making a relationship with a partner of a different Enneagram type work
What to do for growth as a leader and entrepreneur
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To lead other people effectively, you have to be able to lead yourself. And that’s why understanding your Enneagram type at a deeper level is really, really important.
But next-level Enneagram integration comes from understanding the other types.
So, what is the BEST way to learn about other Enneagram types and the way they see the world? On this episode of Lead with the Enneagram, I explain why it’s so valuable to learn about the Enneagram in community.
I walk you through what I’m creating for those of you who want to learn in a group setting, describing my forthcoming online and in-person workshop-style Enneagram coaching options. Listen in for insight on understanding your wings, growth and stress numbers through real-life situations and find out why group coaching is the BEST way to learn about the Enneagram!
What You Will Learn
Why it’s so valuable to learn about the Enneagram in community
How I learn by watching elite coaches lead someone else through a question
Why it’s crucial to understand all the Enneagram types (not just your own)
What I’m creating for people who want to learn the Enneagram in a group setting
My online and in-person workshop-style Enneagram group coaching options
The benefit of having friends who know the language of the Enneagram
How a group setting provides additional opportunities for growth
The best way to understand your wings, growth and stress numbers
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“I hit my first six figures in six months, I hit my first half a million dollars in 18 months. And I truly believe that I did that because I put my head down, I got focused, and I didn't have 1000 people telling me 1000 different things,” - Jillian Murphy
Sales drive our economy. It’s what drives every business, no matter the kind of business.
I’ll be honest, I’m like the queen of the “no sell, sell.” And I used to approach sales with a little bit of trepidation and discomfort, leaving me feeling pushy or just salesy.
But most of the time, we have the wrong attitude about sales. It’s not a natural talent but can be learned through practice and mindset shifts, and there’s a real art to it.
That's why I brought legendary sales expert and Self Preservation Enneagram 3, Jillian Murphy to share her insight on how you can grow your business with more sales.
Whenever I'm with her or when I'm following her content or listening to her watching her stories or listening to her podcasts, I get fired the fuck up every single time because she makes the sales process not seem so icky, scary, and she just makes it real as hell.
Listen in to “Lead With The Enneagram” today as Jillian shares her personal story of how she transitioned from her 20-year corporate job to running a successful seven-figure business in the online space through mastering the art of sales. She also discusses her chronic illness, the physical and emotional toll it has taken on her, and how she has had to learn to manage her symptoms while still running her business.
Jillian and I discuss the two biggest problems in sales and the vital component you need to build with your audience before you can sell to them. Jillian shares how she leveraged the help of others to achieve success and the importance of mentorship and investing in oneself to become successful. Plus, how you can work with Jillian.
If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review on Apple Podcasts. And reach out with any follow-up questions or comments via DM on Instagram. You can also find additional resources on my website at TracyOMalley.com.
What You Will Learn
The importance of pivoting and adapting quickly to change
How Enneagram type can influence one's approach to sales and business growth
How chronic pain can impact high-achieving individuals and how to honor the body
The key reasons people struggle with sales
Sales is an art—why it's possible to sell unapologetically without being sleazy or pushy
The two biggest problems in sales
The vital component to successful sales
The importance of seeking help from others to achieve success
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Are you facing a significant life transition, such as moving to a new city or starting a new job? Maybe you're dealing with losing a loved one or a romantic partnership.
Whatever the change may be, it can stir up feelings of uncertainty and vulnerability as you face the unknown.
But by using the tools of the Enneagram, you can navigate these transitions with grace and emotional intelligence. At the same time, building the resilience and awareness needed to face future life challenges head-on.
So, are you ready to learn how to use the Enneagram to help you power through life's transitions?
In this episode of "Lead With The Enneagram," we'll explore the transformative power of the Enneagram in navigating life changes. We'll delve into the Enneagram's unique framework and how understanding and integrating its insights can support you through all of life's toughest transitions.
As an Enneagram 8, I have always been the active challenger, protector, and rescuer for those around me—but now I must learn to be that for myself. I'll share a personal story about a major transition I am currently facing, why this transition is particularly poignant for me, and why I'm determined to meet this head-on and come out the other side as a stronger, more complete version of myself.
Listen in to discover how the Enneagram can help you navigate the unknown with more powerful self-awareness and emotional intelligence.
What major life transition are you currently facing or have recently gone through? If you need help moving forward, I'd love to support you on your journey. Consider booking a 90-minute Enneagram coaching session with me. Remember, you don't have to face life's transitions alone!
What You Will Learn
How the Enneagram can help navigate life's biggest transitions
How to use the Enneagram to avoid unhealthy coping mechanisms and understand your natural tendencies
How an Enneagram 8 with a 6 wing (and a 2 in their tri-type) navigates the challenge of living alone for the first time, and how their rescuer role impacts their relationships
How to integrate your Enneagram framework, including your wings, growth number, and stress number, to move through life transitions more holistically
How the Enneagram framework can help navigate through the grieving process of change
The difference between healthy and unhealthy ways of coping with fear and vulnerability during life transitions (and distinguish between solitude and isolation)
How the Enneagram can help you lean into compassion to avoid self-sabotage and procrastination during life transitions
The benefits of working with a coach during times of change to help integrate the Enneagram and other performance tools.
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“The power of the tool is only as good as the intent behind it.”
Some people misunderstand or misuse the Enneagram, leading to negative perceptions of the tool. But it's vital to use ANY personal growth tool, with integrity and the right intentions—because even the Enneagram is only as powerful as the intent behind using it.
In this episode of "Lead With The Enneagram," we'll explore the importance of using personal growth tools like the Enneagram with integrity and the right intentions.
I'll share my personal experiences with using the Enneagram as a tool for personal growth and how it has positively impacted my life as a mom, friend, partner, business owner, leader, and coach. Plus, I'll share how using the Enneagram with integrity and heart led me to my ideal client and to being invited on a podcast I’ve dreamed of being on.
Listen in to discover how to avoid the adverse effects of Enneagram misuse and use the tool effectively and with integrity. Plus, I'll share my thoughts on the power of attraction over promotion when sharing personal growth tools with others.
The power and beauty of working with me is that I don't have any other agenda other than helping you be the very, very, very best version of yourself. If you’re ready to accelerate your growth and transformation, apply to work with me, and together, we will go even deeper to take you to your next level of growth!
If you find value in the show, I would be incredibly grateful if you could help spread the word by sharing it with a friend or leaving a rating and review on your favorite podcast platform. Your support means the world to me!
What You Will Learn
Why the Enneagram is the most powerful tool for personal development
The importance of living the work of personal growth rather than just talking about it (especially when it comes to sharing the Enneagram with others)
The potential dangers of using the Enneagram or any personal growth tool without the right intentions and integrity
How to use the Enneagram to connect with a Divine power (and overcome religious or tool abuse) How accurate Enneagram typing can lead to greater self-awareness and growth
How to integrate the Enneagram into all areas of your life—from business to relationships and personal development
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"If you just have a strong IQ but a low EQ, you actually may never produce the gifts and step into who you are designed to be."
Intellectual intelligence (IQ) refers to the ability to learn, understand, and apply information to skills, logic, reasoning, and other forms of thinking.
On the other hand, emotional intelligence (EQ) is the ability to identify, assess, and control your own emotions, as well as recognize and respond to the emotions of others.
While both IQ and EQ are important, having a strong IQ without a corresponding EQ can limit your personal and professional growth and leave you feeling unfulfilled.
But by developing your EQ, you can navigate challenging situations with grace and compassion and effectively overcome obstacles without damaging your relationships, health, or finances.
So, how do you build your emotional intelligence muscles?
In this episode of “Lead With The Enneagram” we’ll explore how the Enneagram can help you strengthen your emotional intelligence for personal growth.
I'll share a personal story of overcoming negative emotions by leaning into vulnerability. I'll also walk you through how the Enneagram has helped me develop my EQ to break generational patterns, have more fulfilling relationships, and even increased my financial success.
Listen in to discover how the Enneagram can help you understand your own unique fears and motivations so you can cultivate your emotional intelligence to lead with authenticity, vulnerability, and grace in your personal and professional relationships.
Are you ready to accelerate your growth and transformation? Get your Enneagram Blueprint a 75-page handbook tailored to your unique personality. Or apply to work with me and together, we will go even deeper to take you to your next level of growth!
What You Will Learn
The BIGGEST difference between EQ and IQ
The importance of emotional intelligence in leadership
How the Enneagram can help YOU develop your EQ
How YOUR Enneagram type can affect emotions and actions
Why having only a strong IQ might set you up to fall short of realizing your potential and can leave you feeling unfulfilled
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If you’ve experienced a personal transformation, it’s natural to want to share what you’ve learned with the people close to you.
That’s why I’m getting so many bookings for my Enneagram partner session.
But before you try to fix your partner, teammate, friend, spouse or child, ask yourself what you’re bringing to the table.
Are you taking responsibility for your part in any conflict? Are you bringing your best to the relationship? Or are you trying to change the other person to suit YOUR needs?
On this episode of Lead with the Enneagram, I explain why it’s more effective to embody the personal development work you’ve done versus trying to convince your partner to get on board.
I discuss how holding yourself accountable makes hard conversations easier and offer advice on moving through the grief when a relationship turns out to be a reason or a season—not a lifetime.
Listen in for insight on what it looks like to work with me in an Enneagram partner session and learn how to make your relationships more effective by owning your part in what’s not working.
What You Will Learn
The challenge around owning your part in a relationship that’s in conflict
Why it’s more effective to embody the work you’ve done vs. trying to fix your partner
3 questions to ask yourself before you try to change your spouse, child, teammate or friend
How taking responsibility for your role in a conflict makes hard conversations easier
How the Enneagram helps me see blind spots in my communication
My advice to people who are worried about outgrowing their partner
What it looks like to work with me in an Enneagram partner session
The beauty in 2 people working together to make their relationship more effective
How to move through the grief when a relationship is a reason or season (not a lifetime)
What to do when you catch yourself pointing the finger at your partner
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I turned 51 yesterday.
But because I was the black sheep in my family growing up, I never felt celebrated. And consequently, I still struggle with birthdays.
Here’s the thing, though. I would much rather own the pain of being the black sheep than give up on my calling in order to fit in.
So, how do you move through the judgement and loneliness that comes from breaking unhealthy cycles in your family? How do you transition from black sheep to GOAT?
On this episode of Lead with the Enneagram, I explain how the Enneagram gives you the self-awareness to be the cycle breaker in your family and fully embody who you’re designed to be. I share what’s behind the feelings of vulnerability that are making me feel flat and uninspired right now and how I’m using the Enneagram to navigate my fears in a healthy way.
Listen in for insight on getting an accurate Enneagram typing and learn how to accelerate your transformation from black sheep to greatest of all time!
What You Will Learn
Why being the black sheep makes it hard for me to celebrate my birthday
The risks associated with stepping into your calling as the black sheep of your family
How the Enneagram gives you the self-awareness to be the cycle breaker
How I define GOAT (greatest of all time) as fully embodying who you’re designed to be
What’s behind the feelings of vulnerability that are making me feel flat and uninspired
How I’m leveraging the Enneagram to navigate my fear of being alone
What to do if there’s conflict in your own home that’s keeping you from your calling
Why black sheep need support in becoming the GOAT
How I grew in every aspect of my life this past year by taking contrary action
Where to go for accurate Enneagram results to accelerate your transform
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Are you feeling the need for a change, or do you constantly chase after new shiny objects?
Perhaps you're a multi-passionate individual struggling with purpose anxiety.
If so, it's crucial to take a moment and consider if you truly need to pivot or reframe your messaging.
But it's essential to approach these questions with radical honesty while tempering them with self-compassion (so you don't fall into a shame spiral).
So, how do you navigate this process?
Today, on "Lead With The Enneagram," we're diving into the topic of purpose anxiety and how to discern whether you need to pivot or if you're just running away from something.
I'll provide valuable insights on how multi-passionate individuals can settle into discerning their true passions and offer guidance on asking yourself the tough questions (with radical honesty AND compassion) so you can leverage your unique framework in a way that feels true to who you are.
If you're struggling with purpose anxiety, listen in for ways to live your best life in alignment with your passions.
It's my life's work to help multi-passionate people leverage their passions, pivot if necessary, and own their unique identities in a way that attracts success and fulfillment. My Enneagram Blueprint provides an in-depth 75-page handbook about you and your Enneagram type, subtype, wings, growth number, and stress numbers. Or, to go even deeper, apply to work with me.
What You Will Learn
Why being multi-passionate may not always lead to financial success
How earning credibility in your niche can help you expand your passions for success in multiple areas
Why it's essential to stay fluid and NOT hitch your trailer to one truck as your passions and purposes evolve
The importance of building community to earn credibility in the online space
The key to finding YOUR zone of genius and standing out in a competitive market
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