Hoosier Health Matters
Season 1, Episode 23
Date: 9/5/2025
Title:  The enshittification of the CDC and (unrelated) all you want to know about school based health centers

In this episode of Hoosier Health Matters, hosts Gabriel Bosslet and Tracey Wilkinson discuss the continued systematic dismantling of expertise and value in the CDC, a form of enshittification (a real word). Then they talk with Dr. Meg Carlson about school-based health centers.

00:00- Intro

01:30- CDC director fired after being hired a month ago and then unsuccessfully fired and unsuccessfully asked to resign.

04:25- James O'Neill has been named as new interim CDC director. The least qualified candidate in history.

05:10- Enshittificaiton and how it applies to HHS.

06:05- Indiana Department of Health gives milquetoast answer on its approach to respiratory season guidance.

07:41- RFK, Jr. cosplays as a vitriolic scientist and requests Annals of Internal Medicine retract a study that doesn't tie aluminum to vaccine injury. They say no.

11:46- State coalitions create health alliances in the face of CDC incompetence and Florida will try to eliminate school vaccine mandates.

15:16- IDH emphasizes safe sleep in response to 10 infants dying to unsafe sleep practices

17:18- Interview with Dr. Meg Carlson, Director of Health Services for Indianapolis Public Schools, about the role of School Based Health Centers in public health.

33:54- Look at the trees as they change colors, and call your Senators to request they get rid of RFK, Jr. at HHS (phone numbers and script here)

34;46- Wrap up

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