In this episode of The Cognitive Revolution, Nathan welcomes back Div Garg, Co-Founder and CEO of MultiOn, for his third appearance to discuss the evolving landscape of AI agents. We explore how agent development has shifted from open-ended frameworks to intelligent workflows, MultiOn's unique approach to agent development, and their journey toward achieving human-level performance. Dive into fascinating insights about data collection strategies, model fine-tuning techniques, and the future of agent authentication. Join us for an in-depth conversation about why 2025 might be the breakthrough year for AI agents.

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CHAPTERS:

(00:00:00) Teaser

(00:00:40) About the Episode

(00:04:10) The Rise of AI Agents

(00:06:33) Open-Ended vs On-Rails

(00:10:00) Agent Architecture

(00:12:01) AI Learning & Feedback

(00:14:01) Data Collection (Part 1)

(00:18:27) Sponsors: Oracle Cloud Infrastructure (OCI) | SelectQuote

(00:20:51) Data Collection (Part 2)

(00:22:25) Self-Play & Rewards

(00:25:04) Model Strategy & Agent Q

(00:33:28) Sponsors: Weights & Biases RAG++

(00:34:39) Understanding Agent Q

(00:43:16) Search & Learning

(00:45:39) Benchmarks vs Reality

(00:50:18) Positive Transfer & Scale

(00:51:47) Fine-Tuning Strategies

(00:55:16) Vision Strategy

(01:00:16) Authentication & Security

(01:03:48) Future of AI Agents

(01:16:14) Cost, Latency, Reliability

(01:19:30) Avoiding the Bitter Lesson

(01:25:58) Agent-Assisted Future

(01:27:11) Outro

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