Steven and Ian open this week's episode with a quick Politics-cast about Tim Walz, the VP candidate whose life resembles a middle-aged man's version of a Hold Steady song (2:05). From there, they discuss a range of not-quite-indie topics — the retirement of Aerosmith from the road (15:30), the explosion of Chappell Roan (24:33), and whether John Mayer's "Daughters" is the worst song ever written (as suggested by St. Vincent) (34:37).

In the mailbag, a reader asks for advice on which upcoming show he should see, and the guys instead end up talking about the ethics of selling a birthday present bought by your wife (48:25).

In Recommendation Corner, Ian talks about the latest from Parannoul and Steven reps the new album by Oso Oso (54:53).

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