<p> In this episode, Rick explains how he’s getting more hands on with marketing. </p>

In this episode, Rick explains how he’s getting more hands on with marketing.

<p>&nbsp;In this episode, Rick explains how he’s getting more hands on with marketing.&nbsp;</p>

The first step of a flywheel

Two founders talk about how to build software businesses that are meant to last. Each episode includes a deep dive into a different topic related to starting, growing, and sustaining a healthy business.

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