In this episode of The New Stack Makers, Alex Williams, founder and publisher of The New Stack, talks to three members of the WeaveWorks team: Alexis Richardson, founder and CEO, Cornelia Davis, chief technology officer, and Stefan Prodan, developer experience engineer and the architect of Flux2 and Flagger. They reflect on the next generation tooling in the cloud native tech community. The quartet discusses how that tooling fits into the GitOps toolkit and, particularly, the next evolution of the Flux continuous delivery for GitOps projects.