In this second part of my conversation with Dave Fischer of Fischer Farms, we move beyond headlines and into the systems shaping what ends up on our plates.

If you haven’t listened to the first part of the convo yet, I recommend you go back and listen at some point. That episode lays the groundwork with a deep dive into beef supply chains, methane narratives, soil biology, and the pressure small farmers face inside a highly consolidated food system.

In this episode, we go further.

Dave and I talk about why farmer’s markets, as meaningful as they are, were never designed to function as a national food system. We explore nutrient density and soil biology, what traceability really means, how school lunch programs reveal deeper structural problems, and why the next evolution of food must make the better choice the easier choice, without pushing costs onto farmers.

We also dig into regenerative claims, anonymous food systems, and what happens when eaters start asking smarter questions about where their food comes from and how it’s grown.

This is a conversation about visibility versus invisibility (one of my favorite topics and top pet peeves!). About rebuilding trust. And about what a real food revolution actually requires.

Topics we cover:

• Why “eat local” oversimplifies a complex food system

• How soil biology impacts nutrient density

• What’s broken in school food programs (and how it could change)

• Why traceability matters more than distance

• The dangers of anonymous, commodity-driven food

• Regenerative agriculture, labels, and buyer beware

• How chefs, farmers, and institutions can help scale real change

• What it takes to build a transparent supply chain that works for both farmers and eaters

Use code ONEBITE here for $25 off your first order from Fischer Farms.

One Bite is Everything is a very active podcast, ranking in the top 3% globally and receiving more engagement than 88% of podcasts on Spotify. This show exists because listeners like you care enough to lean in, ask questions, and stay curious.

I’ve also launched a Substack where this conversation continues in writing, with deeper context, reflections, and space for your questions.

If today’s episode sparked something for you, join us there, and through the For Farmers Movement, where farmers and eaters come together to ask thoughtful questions, consider real answers, and take actions that make a difference.

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