Jonathan Liu hated public speaking and basically everything about litigation. Even so, he spent 7 years as a litigator before leaving the law for a career in real estate.

On today's episode of the podcast, Jonathan shares how he figured out it was time for him to leave the law, and how he developed his career as a real estate agent and investor.

Show notes at formerlawyer.com/084.

Robert Ingalls practiced criminal law, civil litigation, and estate planning before deciding to leave the law and start his company, Lawpods, which produces podcasts for law firms.

On this episode of the podcast, Robert shares about how his podcasting hobby turned into a full-time career that he loves.

Show notes at formerlawyer.com/083.

Many lawyers harbor a secret dream of one day getting to write for a living. Today on the podcast I'm sharing my conversation with Marie Sotelo, who left legal practice after 10 years and built a career as a full-time freelance writer.

Show notes at formerlawyer.com/082.

Lawyers often make career choices based on what's prestigious, but prestige is a liar. Here's why it's hurting your career satisfaction and can sabotage any moves that you make.

Show notes at formerlawyer.com/081.

Today I'm sharing about something that happened to one of my guests after they were on the show, which turns into a bit of a Biglaw rant. I also talk about why I created Former Lawyer.

Show notes at formerlawyer.com/080.

Pia Thompson practiced law for years even though it felt wrong to her. On today's episode, Pia shares how she figured out who she is and what she wanted, and how she found her way to a career she loves as a home organizer and a KonMari consultant-in-training.

Show notes at formerlawyer.com/079.

In last week's episode, Janelle Christian shared about how she learned to prioritize herself over her job.

In today's episode, she shares about how that included moving from a big firm in D.C. to one in Atlanta to make more space for her life, and ultimately, building a six-figure side business that enabled her to leave Biglaw.

Show notes at formerlawyer.com/077.

Janelle Christian skipped the LSAT twice, and only took it on her third go-round because her parents drove her to the testing site.

She says, "My soul was screaming to not be a lawyer, but I still felt like it was what people wanted me to do. It was the right path, it was the prestigious path."

In this first part of our two-part conversation, Janelle shares about her early career as a lawyer and how she came to learn that she could prioritize herself over her work. 

Show notes at formerlawyer.com/076.

Natasha Alladina started her legal career in Biglaw.

But a few years in, she knew it was wrong for her, and so she decided to explore other options.

Her path through jobs in public service, recruiting, and policy helped her figure out what she truly wanted to do—and how to figure out how to move towards what you want, versus simply running away from what you don't want.

Show notes at formerlawyer.com/075.