It was so interesting to me to observe my own internal reaction to relistening to this episode.

I found myself WANTING to be an introvert and to somehow prove how in tune with myself I was by committing to more quiet reflection time.

Fortunately, I caught myself with the help of something Thea said during our #conversationlikenoother.

She talked about guiding the introverted entrepreneurs she works with to build you-based business, where they tune in with the strategies and values that are intrinsically them.

I reminded myself that it's not about TRYING to be an introvert, but more about getting very clear about where on the spectrum I, personally, fall and then supporting myself by leaning into my energetic needs in any given situation - be it business or personal.

After a couple of very quiet, introspective weekends in succession, I was pleased to be reminded that, for me, sometimes that is exactly what I need.

And that's a good thing.

Few people have more reason to distrust and dislike their body than Deanne,

After multiple surgeries, she'd be forgiven for feeling resentment towards that which has challenged her most.

And whilst she may have felt that resentment in the past, she now recognises the teacher her body was trying to be.

The lessons it was trying to teach about various parts of her life have been numerous and, today, she listens with an open ear and open heart for the wisdom it tries to bestow.

Often times, this wisdom has come at the cost of letting go of ego or leaning into suppressed emotions - no easy task.

This conversation could not have come at a better time for me.

To lean into that feeling of discomfort around the decisions we've been making around our big Freedom Adventure is disappointing and uncomfortable.

But, necessary.

So, I thank Deanne for being vulnerable with herself and with me in the #conversationlikenoother, both for her benefit, mine and (hopefully) yours.

You may not know that when Rory and I first left Australia to pursue our digitally nomadic, online business dreams, we were running a health-based business.

Our focus was solely around freeing ourselves from sugar which, at the time, was the popular "health-focused" way of eating.

We also had a HUGE focus on mindset, with a particular focus on learning to love the body you're in, right now, DESPITE what you may not like about it.

I truly thought I had "figured out" this body positive attitude and was on my way to the skinny version of myself.

It blows my mind how confused and conditioned I was then after speaking with Victoria.

In this #conversationlikenoother, my mind is blown and expanded through learning and embracing the use of the word "fat".

For the longest time, I would berate Rory when he would call himself fat.

He would always say it in such a blase way that I would immediately jump on him and insist he shifted his mindset and language.

If only I'd know what Victoria teaches me in this episode, I wonder if both Rory and I would have been so much happier and far less healthist.

There's a great joy I generate in relistening to these conversations to write these show notes and learn new and forgotten lessons.

In this #conversationlikenoother with Betsy, I, like the acorn, am cracked wide open.

I realise the wool I've pulled over my own eyes.

The depth of the lie and fabrication I've led myself to believe.

The anxiety I've allowed to steer my ship and overwhelm my thoughts.

The loss of my personal integrity and priorities.

Whilst at the same time realising my power and ability to rewrite this story.

(Potentially for the umpteenth time...and surely not the last.)

My ability to ask "how?"

To acknowledge the anxiety and depression I've been feeling, despite the facade.

And to remove the judgement to make way for conscious-seeking.

I thank Betsy with my whole heart for having this conversation with me and for having it with me again (via recording) so I may learn from it time and time again.

For being vulnerable and opening the conversation on mental illness wide open.

For being her authentic, flawed, marvellous self for all to see and learn from.

If the word 'shaman' conjures images of witch doctors, serious wooden nose piercings and fire-side chanting, you're in for a surprise.

Sarah is far from that image, although, I'd imagine some of that sounds totally exciting to her.

(She does make her own drums after all

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Her magic comes not only from her ability to translate the messages of the spirit world into everyday English but also her ability to normalise spirituality and make it palatable to the spiritually curious.

From womb to today, Sarah has felt a spiritual calling.

Yet it took four decades and a lifetime of twists, turns and challenges for her to truly step into the spiritual healer she is today.

Even if you don't normally embrace the "woo", get ready to have your world expanded and to walk away with a greater understanding of spirituality and the spiritual realm.

Emily is the VERY first person I ever coached.

There we were, two aspiring coaches, overwhelmed and exhausted after what felt like a month (it had only been a few days) of life-changing and affirming coach training, sat across from one another, ready to practice our new found skills and (hopefully) shift a little something in one another.

Our realities were forever changed and that first little taste coaching one another set in motion a cascade of events that led to this conversation like no other.

A conversation where we tackle (but don't QUITE solve

) some of the BIG challenges facing humanity...

Education.

The collective conscious.

Our relationships with money.

Before, ultimately landing in a conversation about having the freedom to surrender.

A type of freedom I had not been exposed to until this episode and one that I'm tingling to explore further.

Have you run a marathon? I sure haven't...my greatest running achievement is 5km. Don't get me wrong, I'm proud of myself for achieving that when I did. But not for the reasons you probably think. It wasn't the distance for me. It was the COMMITMENT. The mindset muscle-building habits I created whilst training for that 5km was unlike any other form of mindset work I've ever done. And I KNOW Jessica would agree. After training for and running the New York Marathon in 2017, Jessica mental, physical and entrepreneurial game was shaken up. Just the mere act of making the time for the practice runs was enough to help her make space from her business. And in making that space, have realisations and ah-ha's about how she was showing up in her life and business she did NOT expect.

Rory's and my path to working full-time in our businesses, it likely the MOST planned and committed I've EVER been about anything.

I've historically found it CRAZY hard to save money and maintain a singular focus, and yet, when we decided to leave our jobs and lives in Australia in pursuit of full-time entrepreneurship living in Mexico, my eyes never left the target.

We sold furniture, purchased business equipment, booked flights, studied up on online business strategy and arranged visas without hesitation.

AND I managed to save several thousands of dollars.

That was a huge personal achievement for me.

But the money didn't last long and within only a few months we found ourselves in some SERIOUS scarcity.

Having lived in that same scarcity for over two years, I'm always facsinated to chat to people who took a different approach to building and growing their businesses.

Darian is one of those people.

She's built her marketing business and retired her husband to work within that business all whilst maintaining her career in the military.

Doing so has created the financial space and security to take risks in her business and test things out without fear of not being able to feed her family.

AND to be able to lead a family-led lifestyle.

Two years ago, Rory and I made the decision to sell (almost) everything we owned and to leave Australia, bound for our great overseas and entrepreneurial journey.

It was one of the most exciting times of our lives, filled with possibility and adventure.

And yet, there was QUITE a process of decluttering required before we were able to hand that boarding pass to our flight attendant.

It's easy to see from the outside the physical decluttering that was involved.

We sold furniture for almost six months and STILL ended up with a mountain of rubbish on our curb as we left our cute, little Melbourne cottage.

But that was only the surface decluttering.

There was a whole WORLD of emotional and relationship decluttering that was going on that HAD to happen if we were ever going to make it to that check-in counter.

Heather knows that when it comes to clutter, it's often this emotional clutter, or the emotion we're attaching to our physical clutter, that has the biggest impact on our happiness and sense of freedom.

From working through these challenges with her clients, her children and herself, she's come to innately understand that decluttering starts within.

And that "stuff" could be holding you back in more ways than you realise.

Systems can be a snoozy topic of conversation when you're talking business.

That is unless you're talking to Jordan Gill!

One conversation with her will leave you yearning to get into your business and systematise everyTHAAAAAANG!!

What amazes me, is not only how she's been able to grow two successful businesses and help countless others with her systems prowess, but how she also applies her systems-minded approach to her life and mindset.

For someone who does not identify as an idea's person to teach themselves how to come up with ideas through a SYSTEM is astounding.

And obviously paying HUGE dividends as she launches a totally new way for other business owners to systematise their businesses.

A shut-up-and-take-my-money idea she executed in a unique way that saved her ALL the hairpulling frustration and is no doubt gonna do the same and MORE for her customers.