In this episode of The Future of Identity Podcast, I’m joined by Chris Goh, former National Harmonisation Lead for Australia’s mobile driver’s licenses (mDLs) and the architect behind Queensland’s digital driver’s license. Chris played a pivotal role in driving national alignment across states and territories, culminating in the 2024 agreement to adopt ISO mDoc/mDL standards for mobile driver’s licenses and photo IDs across Australia and New Zealand.

Our conversation dives into Australia’s path from early blockchain experiments to a unified, standards-based approach - one that balances innovation, security, and accessibility. Chris shares lessons from real-world deployments, cultural challenges like “flash passes,” and how both Australia and New Zealand are building digital ID ecosystems ready for global interoperability.

In this episode we explore:

• Why mDoc became the foundation: Offline + online verification, PKI-based trust, and modular architecture enabling scalable, interoperable credentials.
• From Hyperledger to harmony: Lessons from early decentralized trials and how certification and conformance reduce fragmentation.
• Balancing innovation and standardization: Why agility and stability must coexist to keep identity ecosystems moving forward.
• The cultural realities of adoption: How flash passes, retail constraints, and public education shaped Australia’s rollout strategy.
• The road ahead: How national trust lists, privacy “contracts,” and delegated authority could define the next phase of digital identity in the region.

This episode is essential listening for anyone building or implementing digital credentials, whether you’re a policymaker, issuer, verifier, or technology provider. Chris offers a clear, grounded perspective on what it really takes to move from pilots to national-scale digital identity infrastructure.

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In this episode of The Future of Identity Podcast, I’m joined by Thomas Mayfield, Head of Decentralized Trust & Identity Solutions at the Cardano Foundation. Thomas leads the development of the Veridian Wallet, an open-source digital identity platform built on the KERI (Key Event Receipt Infrastructure) protocol and funded by the Foundation.

Our conversation explores the rapidly evolving Web3 digital identity ecosystem—and how Veridian aims to bridge Web2 and Web3 with universal interoperable identifiers that cut through today’s fragmented identity landscape. We also dig into the growing urgency to rebuild digital trust as data breaches, ransomware, and AI-powered threats escalate.

In this episode we explore:

• Why interoperability—across Web2, Web3, and beyond—is essential to breaking down identity “walled gardens.”
• How the KERI protocol enables quantum-proof, tamper-evident, and recoverable identifiers for individuals, organizations, and AI agents.
• Real-world adoption: how the United Nations is using Veridian for organizational identity and passwordless authentication.
• The potential for verifiable IoT and AI agent identities to transform trust in machine-to-machine and human-to-machine interactions.
• How developers can leverage Veridian’s open-source infrastructure, sandbox environments, and tooling to build secure, compliant identity solutions faster.
• The role of regulation in driving adoption—and why future-proofing identity systems now could save billions in breach-related costs.

This episode is essential listening for anyone working on decentralized identity—whether you’re building infrastructure, integrating identity into products, or shaping policy. Thomas offers a rare, in-depth look at how to design for both future-proof security and real-world interoperability.

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On this episode we spoke with Teresa Wu, Vice President of Smart Credentials and Access at IDEMIA. IDEMIA has been involved with many U.S. states for their mobile IDs, including New York, Arizona, Iowa, Delaware and more. Very few people on earth have more experience than Teresa working with governments to issue digital credentials.

We asked her what would encourage more states to launch mobile IDs and drive end-user adoption. Her response was: more relying party use cases. So, we spent most of our conversation exploring questions like:

• Should relying parties wait to adopt until standards mature and more people have digital IDs?
• How can relying parties get started now?
• How much should the industry channel its energy towards innovation vs. standardization?
• How will the wallet landscape evolve? Will operating system wallets dominate, or will there be lots of wallets?

We closed out by covering the lessons Teresa has learned through all this experience for public servants. I think this conversation will be relevant to anybody interested in digital IDs, either on the issuance or acceptance side.

You can find Teresa on Linkedin and learn more about IDEMIA on their website.

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On today’s episode we spoke to Rebekah Johnson, Founder & CEO of Numeracle. This was a fascinating conversation about Rebekah’s journey starting Numeracle in 2016 to bring trust back to business communications by tackling robocalling and spam in the telecom ecosystem.

We talk about how Numeracle became an early identity issuer in telecom through the implementation of STIR/SHAKEN protocols which have now rolled out to subscribers of carriers like T-Mobile and how she overcame the classic chicken-and-egg problem of launching before carriers were ready. We also discuss how the business identity ecosystem compares to consumer digital identity, and what companies should do when they know a new standard is coming (like eIDAS 2.0), but it’s not here yet.

We finish by exploring modern AI's impact on communications, including how to preserve trust when automated agents or AI-powered voice calls are part of the conversation.

You can learn more about Numeracle at numeracle.com and connect with Rebekah on LinkedIn.

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In this episode, we speak with Jonas Branvall, Head of International Expansion at BankID Sweden, one of the most widely-adopted reusable ID systems in the world. With 99.7% of Swedish adults using BankID and over 7,500 relying parties onboard, it’s a fascinating success story in the digital identity space.

I’ve been eager to explore what drives the adoption of a universally embraced digital ID system, and Jonas provides clear answers. We discuss the pivotal role of strong use cases in driving adoption, including the two major relying party use cases that helped BankID achieve its widespread success. Jonas also shares his insights on the tipping point for adoption—approximately 40% penetration—and why that marks the transition to ubiquity for both users and relying parties.

BankID’s story offers a powerful model for anyone involved in launching mobile driver’s licenses (mDLs), EUDI wallets, private-sector reusable ID networks, or companies looking to integrate these solutions.

Join me for this insightful conversation with Jonas Branvall and learn more about BankID at https://www.bankid.com/en/.

In this episode of The Future of Identity Podcast, I’m joined by Diego Fernández, co-founder of QuarkID and Sovra, to discuss the innovative decentralized identity solution rolled out by the city of Buenos Aires. QuarkID has garnered international attention for its self-custodial identity wallet app, and Diego provides a fascinating behind-the-scenes look at its development, challenges, and growing adoption.

In this episode, we explore:

• The journey of QuarkID, from its origin story to its evolution as a decentralized identity solution.
• Insights into adoption challenges when launching a self-custodial identity wallet app in February and the breakthrough moment of integrating it into the government mobile app.
• The impressive growth of QuarkID, with over 200,000 users onboarded in just 40 days and adoption accelerating at an increasing rate.
• Diego’s visionary perspective on the shortcomings of current identity systems and how improved digital identity can drive prosperity and empowerment.
• Practical lessons for governments and organizations looking to implement decentralized identity systems.

This episode is a must-listen for professionals in digital identity, government innovation, and technology ecosystems. Whether you’re interested in decentralized identity, user adoption strategies, or creating impactful public-private partnerships, this conversation offers valuable insights.

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In this episode of the Future of Identity podcast, I’m joined by Jeffrey Schwartz, Founder and CEO of Dentity, to discuss the recent acquisition of Trinsic’s SSI platform assets, their ongoing partnership with Trinsic, and the innovations driving decentralized identity adoption. They explore the journey behind Dentity’s success in achieving market traction, building trust, and scaling decentralized identity solutions in the face of market challenges.

In this episode we dive into:

• The strategy behind Dentity’s success and rapid adoption in the decentralized identity market
• The Trinsic Ecosystem, interoperability challenges, and creating user-friendly identity solutions
• The role of interoperability and strategic partnerships in scaling decentralized identity systems
• The future of decentralized identity and the Trinsic Acceptance Network — connecting users, platforms, and networks globally

Whether you're an enterprise, developer, or identity enthusiast, this conversation is packed with insights into the future of identity ecosystems and their transformative potential.

You can learn more about Dentity at dentity.com.

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In this episode of The Future of Identity Podcast, I’m joined by Ajay Gupta, Chief Digital Transformation Officer of the California Department of Motor Vehicles, to discuss California’s groundbreaking mobile driver’s license (mDL) program. From its launch to current adoption trends and future ambitions, this episode provides a comprehensive look at how California is shaping the future of mDLs.

In this episode we explore:

• The adoption and growth rates of California’s mDL program, including demographic insights and usage trends.
• Where mDLs are being used today and the balance between Android and iOS wallet downloads.
• The promising potential of remote verification (online use of mDLs) and why Ajay sees it as the fastest-growing channel for adoption.
• Key lessons for other states, DMVs, and government agencies on engaging stakeholders and demonstrating ROI for mDL programs.
• Practical advice for driving adoption among businesses and other relying parties.

This episode is a must-listen for those interested in the future of digital identity, especially professionals working in government, transportation, or identity ecosystems. Whether you’re curious about the technical, policy, or adoption aspects of mDLs, there’s something here for everyone.

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In this episode of The Future of Identity Podcast, I’m joined by David Kelts, a leader in digital identity and mobile ID initiatives, with a career that spans significant contributions across multiple companies and initiatives worldwide. David's insights shed light on the journey of mobile driver’s licenses (mDLs), the evolution of identity verification, and his current role at Decipher Identity, where he’s tackling adoption challenges and working with businesses to expand use cases for digital identity.

We explore:

- David's early work at Idemia, including pioneering efforts in connecting driver’s licenses to online identity proofing.
- The origin and adoption challenges of mobile driver’s licenses (mDLs) and why adoption has lagged behind expectations.
- Privacy concerns surrounding digital IDs and the misconception of "phone home" tracking in mobile identity, along with how privacy regulations are influencing this space.
- The role of standards organizations and government agencies, like AMVA and TSA, in fostering privacy and security in digital credentials.
- The future vision for digital identity, including the potential for digital-native identity credentials, cross-border use cases, and the value of user choice in secure digital wallets.

David also shares stories from working directly with states like Utah and California on mDL projects and reflects on what’s needed for broader adoption. This episode is a deep dive into the evolving landscape of digital identity and is perfect for anyone interested in the future of authentication, privacy, and user-centric identity solutions.

You can learn more about Decipher Identity at decipher.id.

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In this episode of The Future of Identity Podcast, I’m joined by Rohan Pinto, Co-founder and CTO of 1Kosmos, a company at the forefront of decentralized identity and passwordless authentication solutions. We explore the evolution of identity management and the journey from blockchain-based beginnings to building secure, user-controlled identity systems that go beyond traditional centralized approaches.

We dive into several key topics, including:

- Rohan’s background in identity and access management, and his transition into building cryptographic solutions that emphasize user control over their identities.
- The role of blockchain as an enabler in identity verification and why it’s not the complete solution to today’s identity challenges.
- 1Kosmos’s unique approach to authentication, including their pivot from blockchain to passwordless access using biometric verification.
- The challenges and potential of user-controlled identity and verifiable credentials, and why widespread adoption has been slower than expected.
- Rohan’s perspective on the future of identity, including how decentralized identifiers and biometrics will reshape how we access systems and interact with digital services.

Rohan shares insights from his new book and offers a deep dive into the complexities and opportunities of building a more secure, user-centric identity ecosystem. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of identity, security, and the evolving digital landscape.

You can learn more about 1Kosmos at 1kosmos.com.

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