COP27 ended around a week ago, and by now we've all probably seen the headlines – an agreement was finally reached to create a loss and damage fund to help poorer countries most impacted by climate change. Wealthier countries should pay, but exactly who will pay what is yet to be determined.

While this agreement is a big milestone, there are some key aspects missing – there are no mentions of emissions peaking before 2025, or a clear follow-through on pashing down coal, which is discouraging.

To help us get a better sense of what happened at the conference, today we're chatting with Lubomila Jordanova, the founder and CEO of PlanA.

To read the transcript of our conversation, go to tearsheet.co.