In this HD Your Biz podcast episode, host Jamie Palmer discusses her unique approach to human design (HD). She emphasizes the importance of looking at the whole chart and remembering that the parts in human design don't exist without the whole. Jamie discusses the challenges in the HD Industry with most by design offers that focus on type and profile, which she believes misses the depth and nuance of human design. 

Jamie shares her journey of discovering human design and how it helped her in her business and personal life. She believes in the power of integrating human design into existing expertise to create a unique category in one's industry. She also values practicing what one preaches, focusing on one course until successful, and investing in high-quality resources and programs that can be loved for life and each time you come back to it creates an new aha or revelations and sparks joy, understanding and flow. 

Timestamps: 

00:00 Can't Unsee Human Design

06:01 Using human design to align business strategies.

07:35 Create business and life at intersection of design, desires, lifestyle.

11:10 Recognizing patterns in human design across industries.

16:16 Howard Gardener 5 Minds For The Future: My superpowers creative and synthesizing minds

18:52 Human design synthesis reveals marketplace behavior patterns.

21:49 Understanding the whole self and seeking mastery.

27:29 Use HD as tool to revolutionize businesses.

29:32 Opportunities in certification, books, TV shows, values.

31:49 Focus on Regenerative & Sustainable Business & Master over time

35:07 HD Wild Program offering human design education and support. HD Wild Open House Replay

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Jamie Palmer [00:00:02]: Hello. Hello. Hello, and welcome to the HD Your Biz podcast. I am your host, Jamie Palmer. And, today, I am really excited to dive into my approach to human design. This is not something that I've necessarily talked about a lot publicly. I very openly share it inside necessarily a place where I've I've spent a lot of time talking about it online. And the time just feels right to really speak to my approach to human design and why my approach is different.

Jamie Palmer [00:00:57]: And the reality is there's not a lot, if any, other people to my knowledge that are looking at human design with the rigor and the logic and the patterns and the practical application. And so let's dive into this because I think this is kind of, like, an interesting thing to talk about. So first of all, for those of you who don't know, if you're new to the show or you've been around for a minute, I have been in business for myself since I was 20. My business started as a website design firm. I was doing WordPress websites before they were cool. And then in the emergence of social media, I added in done for you social media, and then I transitioned fully into the online space from mostly local, and did a lot of, you know, funnels and website design and and all that sort of stuff and and agency work, and I grew the company. And, I've been supporting entrepreneurs for almost 21 years in some form or another. And I stumbled upon human design or human design found me, on Instagram of all places in 2019, and I was at a place in 2019 where I was just kinda going through the motions of life.

Jamie Palmer [00:02:22]: At that time, I had been running the business for probably about 6 years ago now, so 14 or 15 years. And, I was really unhappy, and I was I knew that I really didn't wanna continue that work, but I didn't really know what was next. And I was doing a group coaching program, business ecosystem builders, and I had been doing that for a while, and I was enjoying that. But I still had the agency, and I had people that I was responsible for in the agency. So I had this, like, coaching, you know, elearning part of my business, and then I had this agency part of my business. And I honestly felt like there I was always, like, wasn't doing anything well. Like, I wasn't momming well. I wasn't doing my agency well.

Jamie Palmer [00:03:19]: I wasn't doing my, coaching stuff well. And the reality is I felt, like, really fractured and splintered and really divided because, like, I was always constantly being pulled in all of these directions. And I stumbled upon ins human design on Instagram, and it was this post about emotional authority and that those with emotional authority will only ever have 80% certainty that the thing that they are making a decision on is correct for them. And I was like, wonder what this human design thing is. And sure enough, I, you know, looked up my design, and I'm a 3 5 triple split emotional authority projector. And sure enough, there it was right there in front of me. I was like, I've had 80% knowing for the better part of the year that I don't wanna keep doing my agency. And that was, like, such a light bulb moment for me.

Jamie Palmer [00:04:28]: And I was like, how could this tool that doesn't know me at all actually, like, be able to know that that's the thing that I've been struggling with? So I couldn't unsee what I saw, and I just started to dig in. I took training programs. I hired a mentor. I bought all the books and all the things and all the source material and all the stuff, and I just dove in. And as time went on, I phased out of my my agency, and I continued to do coaching in my business ecosystem builders program, which is now a lot of the the business strategic foundation that I've woven with human design in in my business today. And the reality is as I started to leverage human design for myself, with my children, with my husband, with my clients, I I didn't come from a background of astrology or really anything that is, air quotes, very woo. Like, I didn't come from this place of really, like, I was very, like, logical. Right? I had come from this background of, like, being in business, helping entrepreneurs with their website and their social media for decades.

Jamie Palmer [00:06:01]: And so when I when I came to human design, I started to just look for parts of the chart where I would notice that clients were struggling, or I would say, like, okay. I have a client here that's struggling with attracting their ideal client. Where in the chart could we leverage that to better help them bring people to them? You know, same thing for, like, offers. I was like, that was one of the first things I really dove into was offers and business models. I had several clients at the time that were and this is, like, a lot of the work that I was doing at the time in the business ecosystem builders program and with my 1 on 1 clients was to help them go from 1 to 1 coaching, right, or their one to one expertise to a leverage model, a one to many model. And so I started looking at patterns that I would see across charts, or I would start to look at, you know, okay. If this is the problem that the client is struggling with, where in the chart can we leverage to solve for that problem, or how could we restructure things based on someone's chart to make that work in a more congruent for them way? And the reality is I don't believe that we can actually fit our human design into our businesses. I believe we have to structure the entirety of of our business around our design.

Jamie Palmer [00:07:35]: And I always say, like, the business that the business and life you love is at the intersection of your design, your desires, and the lifestyle that you want. And I think a lot of times when people say, go look at your conscious mastery to see how you communicate, or go look at x to see what kinda offers you do, I think it's kinda twofold there. I think we miss the point of human design in terms of the fact that the parts don't exist without the whole. But I think more importantly, we are still in sort of that old paradigm or that old belief where we're trying to shrink ourselves and our design to to contort to whatever, you know, business box we've created for ourselves. And and I'm not suggesting that you need to, like, burn in the entirety of your business down and and restart. Like, there's a lot of ways in with which I work with students where we transition and we pivot and we start to, like, make changes slowly over time, to create, like, that regenerative, sustainable business that is built around someone's design. But the reality is I didn't come from this thinking of, like, you had to use this to articulate that, and so I just constantly tried to solve in the very beginning, I was just trying to solve for the the the problem that the clients are were having. Then I I started doing this, business design with human design workshop, which has now become the business design with human design course, and I was, like, looking for patterns.

Jamie Palmer [00:09:20]: Right? And I started to synthesize together these patterns of where, like, certain things I would notice if somebody had, you know, a certain type or a profile or a certain set of circuitry or a certain set of perspective. Like, it would work better for certain business models than others. And I just kept kind of following the data. Right? And and as I got more and more and more charts, I was able to synthesize and see more and more and more patterns across all of these things. As always, I just wanna name because I'm the caveat queen here. You know, just because it works for one person doesn't mean it's gonna work for another. Right? Like, strategy and authority is a big thing that I talk about over and over and over again. Like, I can make recommendations for you where I see patterns, where I see things that might pop up.

Jamie Palmer [00:10:19]: But the reality is you, at the end of the day, are the one who has the desires. You are the one who has to live it out. You are the one who is working towards x sort of lifestyle. And so I really like to kinda give people options of, like, here's what I see works best based on all of these different factors. And the reality is, I think, you know, that approach has served me well in my HD Urbiz program and my BDHT program. It served me well in HD wild. You know, we because I've trained over 60 people now in HD wild in sort of my approach to human design. You know, we've started as a collective, as a group to see patterns across things, and, you know, this is not medical advice.

Jamie Palmer [00:11:10]: I am not a medical professional, but we collectively, as a group, have started to see, you know, trends in things, like folks with the 41 30 who are diagnosed bipolar, folks with gate 9 who are diagnosed ADD, ADHD. We're starting to see all these themes and patterns emerge across all of these different industries. Right? And I think that for me is really where I've kind of looked at human design with this different lens of, like, the parts don't exist without the whole. Where are we seeing patterns across all of these things? My husband calls this palmering because I've been doing this for, like my approach to thinking like this has has kind of just been how my brain works. I am constantly sort of focusing in on the parts and the details and that 1,000 foot view, and then I'm constantly kind of, you know, zooming out and looking at that 30,000 foot foot human. And I'm, like, always kind of oscillating between those two things, and I really think that there are not to my knowledge, I don't think anybody else is really looking at HD in this way. And, you know, I think a problem in the industry, the human design industry as a whole, is that so many people are only looking to type in profile. And I really think that that's, like, a a problem in the current market.

Jamie Palmer [00:12:42]: And I think, you know, for me, the beauty of human design is that there is all this depth there. There is all this nuance. There is all this stuff underneath the iceberg of type and profile that we can look at and we can dig into and we can use to better understand people. But the reality is it takes time to learn that. Right? It takes time to master that. It takes time to integrate it, embody it. And, you know, there's a lot of people who see, you know, human design is growing in popularity. So let me jump on that bag bandwagon, and let me, like, make money on this thing while I can.

Jamie Palmer [00:13:18]: And that's true for every industry. It's not just exclusive to to human design, but I think part of the problem is so many people just focus on type and profile. And I think when we only focus on type and profile or type profile and authority, right, strategy and authority, we kinda miss the whole point and beauty and nuance and depth of human design. Like, if you're only gonna look at type and profile, go take a strength finder test. Go take a DISC. Go take an Enneagram. Go take a whatever because you're missing so much nuance there. And, you know, we see so many blank by design offers in the space that are popping up, and I really think that the blank by design approach, especially when we only look at type and profile, misses all the beauty and depth and validation and understanding of what HD actually is.

Jamie Palmer [00:14:16]: And for me, personally, you know, I am really committed to setting the standard of what it means to be HD informed. And, you know, that's this is this is part of the reason why, you know, I'm on a mission to help people better understand all the depth that's available. And the reality is we can't just know human design. We can't just learn about. We can't just educate ourselves. We have to take that knowledge, and we have to integrate it into our body. And we have to actually embody it, and we have to practice what we preach, and we have to actually take it to the next level. We have to take it from this very, like, up in the air knowing to this in the body experience.

Jamie Palmer [00:15:07]: And I think a lot of people are in that knowing phase, and they don't actually leverage and harness and and integrate HD. And, you know, this is why we have so many I I have so I get so many messages from other people who are in the HD space or the HD in business space that come to me, and they're like, they're struggling. Right? They're struggling because they're they're trying to fit their design into existing business model. They're trying to do the way the things the way that they should or the way that the industry tells them that they should do it. And the reality is, you know, we can't just only look at type and profile. It misses kinda like I said, it misses the mark of of that depth that's available there. And I think, you know, one of my favorite books is Howard Gardner's 5 Minds for the Future. And part of the reason why I like that book is it really talks about how the different minds that we need to be successful, as we move forward into the future.

Jamie Palmer [00:16:16]: And the 5 minds that are that he talks about in that book are the ethical mind, the respectful mind, the disciplined mind, the creative mind, and the synthesizing mind. And I would say that my superpowers are the creative mind and the synthesizing mind. I am someone who, if I don't get my creative and synthesizing time, I feel incredibly frustrated. And the reality is my synthesizing and my creative time allows me that ability to really oscillate between that 30,000 foot view and that 1,000 foot human, and it gives me this sort of innate ability to notice and observe all these things that are coming up across all these different parts of the chart, and it really and I've always been able to do this, like spotting trends and noticing patterns and naming things that might come up and, you know, noticing what's what's missing out in the marketplace. And and, you know, that that's these are all parts of my design as well. And for those who know HD, you know, you're hearing my perspective. You're hearing my 17, 62, 16. You're hearing my gate my 5 gate 9 placements.

Jamie Palmer [00:17:34]: Like, all of that stuff is all part of my design. But the reality is when I make a synthesis, when I weave together information, when I use my creativity to, you know, make a visual or make human design more practical, it's coming from this place where it's been tried and tested and experimented with it. And I don't think, to my knowledge, that there's been very many people approaching HD with this rigor. You know? I have my ideal client workshop that I've run, and I think there's been 3 or 400 students at this point that have gone through that program. And the synthesis that I have in that program comes from the fact that, statistically speaking, I have this massive anomaly in my business of undefined and undefined throats. Now there's a few caveats to that. Right? Like, I get a lot of other projectors who may have a defined Ajna in throat. But when we looked at the data, right, 73% of the population has a defined throat.

Jamie Palmer [00:18:52]: Well, in my group, it's backwards. Right? Almost 70% of the the people in my programs have had an undefined throat or an in my in the beta run of HD Urbiz and HDWild, we had 90% of the people in HD Urbiz beta, and we had 67 folks in that program, and we had 13 in the HD Wild beta program. 90% of those people had And that's just crazy because it's almost a 47, 53 split when we think about the the marketplace, the population. Right? And so I come from human design synthesis and patterns. And when I say the things that I say and I share the things that I share and I talk about the things that I talk about, it comes from this place of, like, a pattern that I've spotted, and then I've experimented with said pattern, and I have the data to back it up. And the reality is I'm constantly forever looking for and observing these patterns, and then I go and I'll actually test it because I think sometimes we can be conditioned to behave in a certain way or, you know, whatever. But but when I think about, like, the ideal client design with human design synthesis or the work I do in in any of my programs, really, it's coming from this place of that there's a a pattern here. There's this there's something here that we can work with.

Jamie Palmer [00:20:27]: Right? I worked with a client couple of years ago to do some work with her in her content creation or done for you, course creation agency. And I helped her create this manual, and she was really struggling with getting clients to record the class, or the course that her her and her team had made it made. And we made this manual, and we we basically created she did a lot of the work in terms of creating the systems in her business, but I created the manual that was all designed around how can we actually get people to finish by design. Like, what do we have to look for in charts? And then we develop systems to support that finishing? And the reality is she never publicly said, oh, I'm gonna coach you by design to finish your course. In fact, she she doesn't really even do that. She just says she uses this as a tool and asks people to pull their charts and send them over to her. And then her and her team very, like, nicely support people by design for type and profile and circuitry and a couple of other things that we we synthesis together that kept coming up as a problem. And the reality is I I think this is not the typical approach that people take in the HD space.

Jamie Palmer [00:21:49]: And for me, I am always thinking and and remembering that the parts also don't exist without the whole. We are whole human beings. And I think when we try to rip apart the chart and we can take it apart and we can study it, But I think when we're constantly just always looking to one part of the chart to solve all of our problems or to give us an answer, you know, we miss that beauty that comes with human design. To me, it's like a yes. That piece of that chart could be impacting the rest of the chart, and that piece doesn't exist without all of that stuff. So why is that coming up? Like, where can we look in the chart? Where else can we look in the chart to figure that out? I think one of the other things that I don't necessarily talk about too too much that is also important to me is mastery. I am a huge fan of mastery over time. Right? And mastery comes when we we not only know and we educate ourselves, but we integrate, ourselves, but we integrate, we embody, we experiment, we get into action.

Jamie Palmer [00:23:02]: We work with people. We get our hands dirty. We get into the field of life, and we, you know, get into it with people. Right? And we we we start to be able to witness and observe and hear and feel in our bodies our designs, and we can help people in their get back into their bodies. And the reality is mastery doesn't happen overnight. It happens over time. It ebbs and it flows, and it comes in peaks and valleys and plateaus, and it comes in, you know, consistent micro steps that happen day in and day out. It comes when we lean into discomfort and taking action.

Jamie Palmer [00:23:51]: And for me, that is a huge part about why I've created and structured the programs that I've created. Because, you know, the fact of the matter is we don't necessarily need more human design readers that can read, type, and profile. We need more human design readers that understand the depth of the chart and how circuitry impacts type and profile. We need more people who understand that definition makes things present in a different way. We need more people who understand the format, gates, and energies and the role, gates, and energies. We need more people who understand that certain gates are more conditioning than others. We need people who understand that there's going to be generational patterns based on not only what was going on collectively, but also the transits that were happening. You know, I saw a chart yesterday, and I said, it had 3 of the format energies in it.

Jamie Palmer [00:25:02]: And I was like, I know that chart. Like, my husband has the heart chart just like that. And I was like, is this person 37 years old? And the person was like, how the heck do you know that? And the reality is, you know, that's the kind of depth that we need. And in my opinion, the the the future of HD for me isn't necessarily in human design readers. The future for me with HD is really about weaving human design into our existing expertise. It's in the example like I used with the course creation agency. She's not overly saying, I use HD to help people finish their course, but that is exactly what she does. You know? There is massive opportunities for people who want to create a blue ocean in their industry, who want to create a category of 1 in their industry by weaving human design with their existing expertise.

Jamie Palmer [00:26:12]: This is true, like, for me, where I see lots of opportunities here, it's professional services. There is massive opportunity in professional services for leveraging human design. There is massive opportunity in education and relationships and parenting and, money and finances. There's massive opportunity in event design, in even real estate. Like, there's there's for me, I see so many possible for dating, for, how nutrition and health. Like, the list could go on and on here. And for me, that's really a big part of what drives me forward in in my HD wild and my HD or biz programs because I really believe, particularly in HD WiL, that if we can have more people who leverage HD as a tool in their business in some form, whether publicly, speaking to it or by the scenes to create behind the scenes to create more predictable outcomes. Right? And that was what my client wanted to do.

Jamie Palmer [00:27:29]: She wanted to create more predictable outcomes in getting people to finish their stuff. Right? Ultimately, when we can use HD as a tool like this, it can radically change our businesses and our world and our clients' worlds. And to me, that's really where I see an HD revolution. Right? That's where I see the ability to be able to individuate, if you will, or differentiate, not only for yourself, but for your client, your expertise. Right? And, of course, you know, to me, these are the places where, yes, it is a bit of work to weave your existing expertise with human design, and we have to always just be thinking about what is the problem I'm solving for. Right? What are the things that come up most frequently with my clients that I'm I'm struggling with? And then we can use HD as a tool for that. Right? We see lots of people doing this. And I have lots of clients in the program.

Jamie Palmer [00:28:40]: We have some that are doing this with book writing. We have some that are doing it with yoga. We have others that are doing it with executive coaching. We have some people leveraging it with event planning. We have some people leveraging it with health and reiki and TCM, traditional Chinese medicine. So people are already starting to go down this path, and the reality is when you weave human design into your existing expertise, you create an entirely new category. You're you're doing category design because no one else is doing that. Right? You're you're creating this category of 1, and it offers massive opportunity for you to position yourself as an industry thought leader and expert.

Jamie Palmer [00:29:32]: It also opens up opportunities to create certification programs and write books and create TV shows, and it opens up all of these other opportunities as a result. Couple of other things before we wrap. I think the other piece that I really wanna talk about are my values. So for me, practicing what you preach is is probably really one of the most important things to me. I want to be around people who practice what they preach, who lean into taking action. Right? We can only stay in planning and strategy for so long because planning and strategy, while we need that and it's necessary, until we step out onto the playing field of life or business or whatever it is, we won't actually get the answers that we're trying to figure out by planning. We could spend the rest of our lives planning and never really knowing many of the answers to the questions that come up and the what ifs that come up with planning. Right? So for me, practicing what you preach, leaning into this idea of taking micro steps, I also really believe in focusing, following one course till successful.

Jamie Palmer [00:30:53]: I constantly am asking people, you know, what is the one thing? Right? And this is from the book, The One Thing. What is the one thing that if you move that thing forward, it would move all other things forward? Right? And that, for me, when I started this journey, was my HD Human Design for Business book. Right? I was like, if I write this book, this is gonna move all the other things in my business forward. And it's true. It has, and it continues to. And so I am constantly asking people to focus on the thing that's gonna create a domino effect because the reality is we live in a world where we are constantly distracted. We're constantly our nervous systems are constantly on alert by our phones and the dings and the bells and the whistles and all of that sort of stuff. We get glittery objects syndrome and FOMO, and we should ourselves.

Jamie Palmer [00:31:49]: I should do this because this is what's typical. And the reality is that we just give ourselves permission to focus and and just focus on one thing for 1 year and really give that thing everything that we have, you know, it's it's amazing the results that people will get. And then, of course, the last thing that I that from a values perspective, and there are a few more, but these are the most important values to me, is I really believe in I would always rather invest the money and buy one high quality piece and be able to love that piece for the rest of my life and have it with me for life than by 10 different things that I constantly need to be replacing. And I really try to create, cultivate, and develop programs that will be with you for life, that you can come back to again and again and again, like a awesome backpack or a beautiful handbag, that you come back and you treasure it. And every time you dive in, you're met with delight or a new And that, for me is is a huge part of my philosophy and the way in which I develop content and the way in which I teach. I regularly have clients from past cohorts of HD wild beta, HD or biz beta from one of the 12 times I've run HD or biz that say I went back to the content and I had this other or I went back to the content and I noticed this. And that is something that happens regularly for me, and I believe it's because I really do create content that is high quality, that has depth, that's nuance, that's layered, that is going to be with you for life, that is going to support you as you grow and evolve and create that that foundation. And as you peel back the layers of conditioning, like, you might hear things in a different way.

Jamie Palmer [00:34:02]: And that's something for me that I really pride myself on, and I really work hard to create those resources and that container and the learning platform to support people in that journey. So that's really how I approach human design a little bit differently than other people. I thought that would be a I thought this would be a great way to kinda kick off season 3 of the podcast because it's not something that I've really talked about, and it is something that I'm going to bring more of to the podcast. And so I thought this would be a great way to preface that. If you do feel called to step into my world, I invite you to come into the HD Wild program. HD Wild is a 1 year human design certification program. This is really where I spend the vast majority of my time supporting students. Students in that program get one to one support with me.

Jamie Palmer [00:35:07]: I have really tried to make that program the only program that you will need for the entirety of the year because I offer here's all the human design info. Right? So we educate you in human design, and we give you resources and somatics and ecocentric, practices to integrate for yourself and for your clients. We offer deconditioning support for you through mindset calls, through Voxer access with me, and then we also offer you support in your business based on all of the stuff that I've done in HD or biz, BDHD, my business ecosystem builders program, and we offer tech support because I know that's one of the things that always holds people back. So I really, really try to make that be the only program that you need in order to move your your business forward. This is a place in HDBarewhile where we help you leverage your existing expertise to create that blue ocean in a category of 1 in your industry. And if you're interested in that program, enrollment is evergreen. And you can check out hdinthewild.com if you wanna learn more about that. We also recently just did an open house, which I'll make sure I put in the notes if you wanna dive deeper in learning more about that program.

Jamie Palmer [00:36:19]: Thank you so much for tuning in. I super appreciate you being here. I'm very excited to be back with the podcast, and we'll see you next time on the HD Your Biz Show.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. On this episode I dive into the unique personality profile of 6/3 Role Model Martyr profile in human design who are here to test the limits of what is possible in this work and be of council and a leader in the world when they embody their own autheticity and balance observation with experiementation

hey are characterized by a cycle of engagement and withdrawal, with three distinct life phases: birth to 30 years, 30 to 50 years, and 50 years and beyond. The six three profile is often seen as chaotic due to their constant engagement and disengagement, but this is part of their process. They are driven by curiosity and a desire for perfectionism, constantly asking "what's next?" and seeking to experience more. Palmer suggests that six threes need to learn to trust their strategy, soften their extremes, and honor the ebbs and flows of their life. They are encouraged to view their experiments not as failures, but as lessons learned.

If you want to dive deeper into human design I invite you to explore the HD Wild Program. 

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The six three profile, the role model martyr, or as I like to say in Ecocentric human design, the mentor expert you are here to taste. All that life has to offer. You see possibilities where others see an end. You push us forward by leading authentically and objectively. Your awareness and experiments give you a unique perspective on the world. Each encounter with another has the potential to create transformation in your world. You push humanity forward with the unique way you see the world. You are here before your time, a catalyst for change in the world. Your wisdom gained through lessons learned, creates a lasting impact on those you've never even met. You shine the light on a new path and pave the way forward. Okay, so let's dive into the six three profile. So when we think about this energy, we've got the third line, which themes are rejection and allegiance, bonds made, bonds broken.

And then in the sixth line, we've got these themes of not trusting, trusting, not leading, leading. And the reality is when we come to this profile, you have to understand that when we have a six three, they are preparing us to start a new in the one three. So the six three is the last of the 12 profiles, but it actually preps for us to start the cycle again in the one three. And so it's prepping the stage. It's like it's constantly asking, is this worth it? Is this not worth it? Still more things here. How can we test this?

And so we have to understand that the six three is here to move humanity forward. And they are here to own their own uniqueness and really just be true to themselves above all else. And they find this understanding and objectivity through the lens of their interactions. And every encounter they have with another person renders that person a transformation. And these are people who live a life of engagement and withdrawal and engagement and withdrawal over and over and over and over again. And of course we've got a six line. So it exists in three phases, right? Phase one birth to 30 years. This is a double third line. So there's a lot of bumping into things. There's a lot of life bumping into them. They're jumping into things, they're jumping out of things, they engage and they disengage and they make bonds and they break them.

And then phase 30 to 50, these six threes tend to run to the roof really quick and totally disengage from life for a period of time. And they just observe. And it's often also during this time where they get really bored and that boredom jumps them off the roof and they go experiment some more. And then they're like, oh, why did I even come down here with the people? And then they go back up. And the reality is, since that third line is on the body side or the subconscious side or the design side, they often have life unknowingly happen to them. They kind of unknowingly enter into experiments because they're not necessarily conscious of it. Like a three five kind of knowingly enters into experiments or a three six sort of knowingly enters into experience. The six three isn't as aware that they're entering into an experiment.

Experiments happen to them. Experiments help them gain wisdom so that they can fully engage in life. And then it's usually in phase three, 50 years and beyond where they spread their wings and they integrate all of the lessons from the first 50 years of their life. And really this is the time when they will step into the role of a leader or not, depending upon if they're in the high expression or the low expression. And it's during this time where they lead by leading with the people. They lock arms with the people, they get down with the people, and they just embody leadership on the ground, right? Versus the six two, they're leading almost from a place of counsel sort of behind the scenes. The six three is very getting their hands dirty leadership. And ultimately, this is how the six three finds fulfillment in life.

And they want every interaction that they have to be authentic and bring a new level of awareness. And I always think of these people as old souls, wise old souls, and they've gained so much knowledge through practical hands-on experience. And they have this also weird awareness of other people through the observations from being on the roof. And the reality is this profile from the outside looking in can really almost look like they're chaotic because they're going to engage in something and then withdraw and engage and withdraw and engage and withdraw. And the reality is that's how they're intended to move about the world. And they have to sort of mind the balance of the extremes that they feel pulled to experience. And extremes are part of their process, and they move humanity forward through their extremes, through their questioning, through their experiments, and by sampling all that life has to offer.

But extremes and chaos are ever present in the six three. And this can bring lots of challenges in their relationships. They want the truth all the time. They want connections all the time. And yet they, they're questioning, they're oscillating back and forth. They're in, and then they're out. They're weary to connect, and then they're not. And they question and they push and they really wonder what else is possible on this plane while doing it on their own terms and with their own authentic flare. And they're under constant tension to engage in this life and to evolve and to transition. And they're often judged by other people as chaotic.

They're judged for their changes that they make. They're judged for their failures that they have with their experiments. And the reality is these are people who also get bored being on the roof because observing everybody, observing everybody, like I just want to go down in an experiment. And it's almost like their body takes over and enters them into experiments. And this cycle is going to repeat, repeat, and repeat until they can find something that they're passionate about that it's with worthy of them to stick with. And so the challenges here are many. And the reality is this is a profile that's here to impact the collective. And they are here to push us forward by being on the roof and observing and by getting off the roof and experimenting and experiencing. And while the six three life may have a lot of ups and downs, they are a treasure of a human and they're keenly aware that they're ahead of their time and they just can't seem to fit in.

And they see things that other people can't see yet or have not necessarily come into the peripheral of others. And so the challenges here are of course, phase one, double third line, which is incredibly chaotic. The wounds here are often very traumatic. For the folks that experienced this, they bump into life, they bump into them. But the reality is the experiments and the quote failures that they have is really what helps them embody wisdom as they move throughout life. This is a time when they might struggle to trust. They feel like this can't be all that life has to offer. And as a result, this can lead them disengaged, distrustful, and frustrated. The other thing Is the six three gets bored quickly and they have to learn to channel that boredom into something that's worthy. And the third line on the body side pulls them into life and can leave them wondering, how did this happen?

They can have a chaotic process. They can kind of look frantic or chaotic from the outside, and that can potentially be traumatizing from swinging, from engaged to unengaged boards to stimulated observing, to experimented. And the reality is they have to learn that they're experiments always bring about something better. And there's a lesson there to be learned. And so the six three is under tremendous judgment because they may not look like they have it altogether or that they're a mess or that they're a failure. And the reality is that often just leads to more extreme behavior. So for those of us who have a six three in our lives, we need to actually meet them with compassion and give them a safe place to experiment, a safe place to help them sit in a holding pattern if that's what they're called to do. We also need to be able to conversely hold space for them when it's time for them to engage in life and move from experiment to experiment without judgment.

Because the reality is the six three wants connection and they lead by being in the thick of it. And they have this wisdom and objectivity from their observations and their experiments that is really different than the other profiles. These are people who are here to test the limits of what is available to us on the material plane. They're really always asking and begging the question like, what's next? And there are people who are perennially dissatisfied, right? They're like, is this it? Is that all? There has to be more to life than this? And this results in a constant need to sample and experience more and taste more. And the reality is, the wonder and the curiosity of the six three is insatiable, and it also leads to a need for perfectionism as a result. And there's this constant, particularly in that sixth line that wants to tweak and hone and tweak and hone and perfect.

And that third line wants to gain more knowledge, gain more experiments. And so there's a constant tension in these lines that people have to really learn to reckon with and learn to contend with as part of their experience. So one thing here is to really learn to trust and rely on your strategy. That is so important for six threes. And they must learn to soften the edges of their extremes, particularly with other people, so that they can hone their objectivity. Yet for them, that fulfillment does come at the edge of those extremes, right? And they really need to just learn to honor the ebbs and flows of their life and understand that they are people who see possibility with their awareness in the world. And as a result, they may get rejected and labeled, but they are here before their time with a keen sense of awareness of what's possible.

And they might be met with resistance because something that they're doing is new or out there and they see possibility in something new when things come to an end. So the six three really, it shows us by living through example, that authenticity is the key to living a fulfilled life, and that there is more that's here on this plane. Some questions to ask a six three profile. What did you learn? What possibilities are available? Is this relationship where I need to reestablish a bond or break it? What is my relationship with my experiments? Do I see them through the lens of failure or through lessons learned? Am I entering into this with my strategy and authority? Or am I relying on my logic? Where might others be passing judgment on me that is causing me to shrink my power? What is my relationship with failure? Is it part of who I am or is it just how I experience the world? What have I learned from bumping into life? What is authenticity to me? What makes me unique? And have I found someone who accepts my process of experimenting? That is the six three profile, the role model martyr in traditional human design, or as I like to say, the mentor, experi mentor. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll talk to you all soon.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. On this episode I dive into the unique personality profile of 5/2 heretic hermit profile in human design who are here call themselves out and live in a pressure free world where they own their innate talents without caving to the pressure of the projection field. 

These are people who are must follow what nourishes thems vs what depeletes them in live and hone their talents and when the correct time arrives they call themselves out to step into the projection field transform others then reutrn to their hermiting. 

If you want to dive deeper into human design I invite you to explore the HD Wild Program. 

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The six two profile in human design, the role model hermit, or as I like to say in Ecocentric human design, the mentor introvert, you are here to show the world what it means to live an embodied and authentic life. You are trustworthy, optimistic, and deep. You see possibilities and hope with your unique perspective like the hawk that soars above you, lead through counsel with your specialist expertise and are sought out for your wisdom. You lead through listening and being discerning with your words. You seek out a life with depth and meaning. You build trust in others. Slowly over time, you are recognized by the other for your gifts that you bring to the world. You are a gift to humanity with the possibilities you see in the world. Okay, so let's dive into the six two profile. So when we come to any sixth line profile, we have to remember that the sixth line exists in three phases.

Phase one is birth to roughly 30 years, and they live life more like a third line. So they're going to bump into things, life's going to bump into them, they're going to learn the hard way. Then around 30 to 50, phase two begins. And phase two is really where six twos build the foundation of their life. They seek out a partner, they hone and refine their expertise. They tend to establish a family and a home base around this time, and they almost withdraw. And this is easy, even more extreme in a six two. And the reality is part of the reason why they withdraw. Many people talk about this is being on the roof.

I really believe any six line, but six two is in particular because they have these themes of trust or not trust leadership or not in the sixth line. And then in the second line, it's like nourish or depleter, shy, withdraw, bold advance. So when we come to the six two, we have to remember six lines. I don't believe six lines ever actually heal from the wounds of those first 30 years that they experience. It's almost like a scab that never truly heals, like it's always still tender. And ultimately six twos need to find people that they can trust. And it's in that second phase where they really kind of cultivate and hone their inner circle. And that's where the key relationships in their life are built. And they're built Upon trust. And the reality is the sixth line, they're idealists. They want to find the perfect partner.

They want someone that they can relate to. They want someone that they can be proud of. And partnership for six twos can come in many different forms. I see it in the form of entrepreneurship. I see it in the form of a relationship like life partner. And the reality is it's six two's put up barriers almost to see who is willing to actually do the work to break them down and is this relationship worthy? And then we've got phase three and it's around 50 that the six two really starts to reengage with life. They step down from this place of observation and people call this coming off the roof. But the reality is you don't just come off the roof and stay off the roof. You kind of go back and forth. And it's during this phase where they can step into their role model.

Now, just because a six two is the role model doesn't mean they're guaranteed to step into that mentor role model role, but ideally in the high expression, this is where they are a living, breathing example of an objective observer and leader. And the reality is the six two is constantly being observed by the other. And the other is constantly observing the six two. And the six two is getting noticed and called out for their gifts because that second line is a projection field. And these are people who can actually provide feedback to other people without inserting their own interest or making it about them. They are here and they listen to other people and they see hope for humanity. And they also see the despair in humanity. They see the weakness and the frailness in humanity. But ultimately these people are people who are optimistic.

They see the best in themselves, they see the best in people around them. They want to see others bring their dreams to fruition in an on the line low expression. The six two is uncertain. It's got a lot of hatred, it's got a lot of distrust, it's got a lot of weakness. Our experience is a lot of weaknesses. It sees how weak humanity actually is and becomes withdrawn and doesn't actually step into that role model. And the reality is, in order for a six two to be aligned to their high expression, trust is a key part of their life. And they won't ever really kick someone out of their life, but they'll hold that person at a distance. They'll only engage with them on social or surface level. And the six two is a transpersonal profile. It means it needs others to fulfill its destiny.

And when they don't trust or when they feel withdrawn, they're going to struggle to actually live that out. And the reality is they have a powerful ability to interact with the people around them when they can trust. However, that second line doesn't always recognize its talents. It doesn't always know what it's actually good at yet people are constantly projecting on it what it is good at, what it's talents are. And so it becomes incredibly important for the six two to actually be discerning about what are they actually willing to come off the roof for and go down with the people. Because what happens is when they go down with the people, they risk having their wounds from those first 30 years be poked, right? Because tender from that and six lines just simply being six lines can trigger people. And ultimately the six two is here to be self-sufficient, to be visionary.

It's here to be optim optimistic. And as they hone their process and start to maintain their objective perspective, and if they cannot allow the fragility of the world to keep them down, they will really flourish and get their wings, as I like to say, in phase two and phase three, right? In phase two, they kind of have baby wings. And then in phase three they really spread their wings. And so these are people who need to sort of oscillate between engaging with life, coming off the roof, getting back up on the roof and going back and forth and back and forth. And it's important to understand that the words of a six two carry weight, unlike other profiles, because the sixth line is almost as if they're someone who is super human.

And the reality is the six two gains wisdom through observation. And unlike the fifth line that we've been talking about, six twos, everyone they meet, everyone they encounter it can has the potential be transformed by the words of that six two. And it's important to understand that these are people who show the rest of us how to live an embodied life. How when we can realize our potential that's waiting to be discovered within us, we can live life to the fullest. And the magic of the six two happens when they embody their authenticity and they show up and they share their answers that they have within without the need for external validation from other people in order to transform each person with each encounter that they have. Now, the challenges here are many because these are people who often carry the wound from phase one with them, and it never truly heals.

So they're skeptical, they're weary, they're distrusting of life. When they come down with the people, they do not want to be poked or prodded in their wounds. Yet as soon as they come down and hang out with the people, they tend to get prodded because people can energetically feel there's something different about a six two. They're also a projected profile, so they're under constant observation from the other. So people are constantly looking at that six two and projecting on them, right? Oh, look, you're so talented at this. Come help me with this thing. And the reality is six twos will also often trigger other people simply by existing. Because the six two is the highest. It's almost like superhuman. The fifth line is the highest universalizing power of the human experience. But the sixth line is like this superhuman experience. So they trigger people simply by existing.

And the reality is the six line sits on the roof. So these are people who go around sparking things in other people, sparking transformation in other people simply by existing. Yet obviously the opposite can be true, right? It can also trigger people simply by existing. And the reality is the six two is almost aloof to the expectations of other people. And they're aloof to the fact that I don't get what this whole human thing's all about. And there is a tendency here to have perfectionism. And the reality is these are people who have an abundance of knowledge, often through traditional knowledge acquisition and also observation. And they can't necessarily articulate their gifts or explain their process, yet they can perfectly point out the ways and paths and ways for others to transform yet for themselves. They strive for this perfection. And ultimately what happens is that leads to an action and fear.

And the reality is they tend to realize that as they start to share things, their synthesis or their knowledge might change over time as a gain more observation. And therefore, they're afraid that they're going to be shamed, that what they said two years ago isn't relevant anymore. And so there's a real tension here for the six two. But ultimately we have to understand that in order for the six two to live out their expression, there's no bypassing the projection field for other people. And they really have to learn to trust in the unknown. And in order for the six two to endure, and on the other side, they have to be discerning in who they trust. They have to learn to embody and integrate the knowledge and the wisdom and the observations, and they have to really honor the divine timing of life. And there's a tendency here for them to compare their journey to other people.

But the six two journey is not like any of the other profiles. So this comparison itis can leave them withdrawn and questioning their gifts. And since they kind of see things from a different perspective, they're often more aware of things that are happening than other people. And they tend to be met with resistance when they share their vision, and then they'll start to question their gifts as a result. And this leads to judgment, which leads to inaction. But it's important to understand that this profile needs time alone in order to cultivate their gifts and become who they're meant to be. And the reality is they have a big purpose here in this world. So if you are a six two, it's important for you to understand that this is just part of the process. So some questions to contemplate as a six two is what did I learn from this experience?

Who is in my circle of trust and who can support me in calling out my gifts? Where am I relying too much on my mind and not enough on the inner knowing of my body? Am I clear on what my gifts are? Where do I feel nourished? Am I spending enough time alone, or am I spending too much time alone? Am I trying to make something perfect instead of stepping down off the roof? Have I tended to the wounds of the first 30 years of my life? And how can I honor my need for depth and substance? So thank you for tuning in to the six two Mentor Introvert. We'll talk to y'all soon.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. On this episode I dive into the unique personality profile of 5/2 heretic hermit profile in human design who are here call themselves out and live in a pressure free world where they own their innate talents without caving to the pressure of the projection field. 

These are people who are must follow what nourishes thems vs what depeletes them in live and hone their talents and when the correct time arrives they call themselves out to step into the projection field transform others then reutrn to their hermiting. 

If you want to dive deeper into human design I invite you to explore the HD Wild Program. 

Order the Human Design for Business Book 

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The five two profile, the heretic hermit in traditional human design, or as I like to say in Ecocentric human design, the disruptor introvert, you yearn for a world where pressure does not exist. Harmony exudes and wraps you in its sweet surrender. You feel at peace. You are strong and innately talented. You yearn to honor your way of doing things non-traditional unexplainable from within you. Discriminately discern which call is for you carefully selecting from the plethora of options present with your genius. You call yourself forth a force of nature, out of the mundane, the stale, and into something revolutionary, something new. And in this calling, you found nourishment, harmony, and a moment that is pressure free.

So today we're going to talk about the hermit heretic, or as I like to say, the disruptor introvert. So one of the things that we have to think about here is the fifth line's on the conscious side. It lives in the projection field. It's on the second floor. It's looking out. No one can see in it's observing others, but no one can observe it. And then we have the second line. It's on the subconscious side. It lives on the first floor of the house. It lives in the projection field, but everyone can see it. And the second line on the body side, when it's subconscious, it's not aware that people are looking in and observing it, right? It's just in its house doing its own thing. I like to think of this profile as the reluctant disruptor. Unlike the five one profile, the five two isn't necessarily aware of its own gifts and talents, and it's constantly under observation by the other.

And it's constantly asking itself like, why should I even bother disrupting? Why should I even bother universalizing? And it is perfectly content to hermit away in its own environment. And the reality is the five two didn't have to work to acquire its knowledge. It just has it. It's naturally talented. And therefore they don't necessarily experience pressure in the same way as other fifth lines do to universalize. The five two just simply wonders, why am I constantly being projected on this? Makes me feel really uncomfortable. I'm tired of being so pressured. So this profile's in constant tension with itself as it needs other people in order to fulfill its destiny. But the reality is it constantly questions themselves. It's like, what benefit does

This actually bring me? And in an ideal world, the five two needs to be called out by themselves. They have to recognize and understand their own talents, and then they have to universalize those talents and get other people to believe in them. And this comes with a great deal of uncertainty and vulnerability because it's very different than the other fifth lines, the five one. It's here to universalize a foundation that's based on a depth of knowledge, the five two Universalizes based on its own past lived experiences and inner talent. So it's a very rare and unique gift. So it's very different than the other fifth lines. So they stand on their own power and beliefs and not the projections of other people. So the five two doesn't need to wait for the projection field or the illusion of power to build like a five one does.

It exists on both sides of the projection field, right? And when we have a five two, the five two always, the fifth line always prefers to be hidden behind the veil. And the line two always prefers term it. So it's very rare when a five two feels called to universalize their beliefs based on their past lived experiences and create change. And even though this profile exists in a double projection field, since the two is on the body side, they're often unaware on the two five of what those projections actually are. And it has to actually call itself in order to fulfill its potential. And the five two is often withdrawn, but not in a negative way. They're completely just content in their own withdrawal, right? Yet at any time, they can almost prod themselves into action. They can seduce themselves into action, but their process is one that is very discerning.

And they have to understand, is this talent or genius actually correct to bring forth to the collective from my past or not? So learning to understand the correct calling is really key for them so they can understand when it's time to step out and when it's not. So these are people who have to learn to stand in their own strength. They have to learn to believe in themselves. They have to have faith that they're going to answer the correct call out of themselves, even though they might not be entirely convinced that the gifts that they bring forth are worthy, right? And so these are people who are revolutionary, they're authentic, they're naturals, but they tend to not be aware of their own gifts. Yet they have a profound impact on the lives of other people because as they step out into the projection field with the correct call to universalize a past experience, they nourish other people with their gifts, and thus they nourish themselves.

So these are people who need lots of alone time in order to build confidence around the gifts that they have. And the reality is this profile doesn't do well under pressure. So allowing people with this profile time to process and honor their strategy and authority really is key. They do have an inherent genius, but they need time. And the reality is rejection for this profile can be a huge challenge because they already feel uncertain about what they're good at, and they can get really overwhelmed and confused by all of the different projections that they face on a regular basis. So the reality is they have to have an inherent belief in themselves, and they have to cultivate that over time. The five two wants to live in harmony with the world around it, and they do best when no one in their world is pressuring them.

They really yearn for a pressure-free world. So the challenges of this profile are many. Because they lived in the double projection field, they're often very weary from an early age of the projections that other people put on them. I know when I've experienced a lot of clients with this profile, they tend to be hesitant about people. There's this level of anxiety and tension and just unease around people because of that projection field. And the reality is they're not even sure if their gifts are good, and the reality is they have to learn to call themselves out. So they have to contend with this double projection pressure, and they have to learn to call themselves out when they're not even aware what their gifts actually are. So this often means, as I like to say, sort of the introvert vortex. The introvert vortex is a place where the five two is content to just do their own thing.

And they almost put a sign up that's like, stay away from me. And they absolutely push other people away. So there's a period of time where the introvert vortex is positive for the five two, but it can become negative if they stay in that too long because essentially they never actually build the confidence around their gifts and they never actually universalize anything. They lean on that line too, and they just kind of hermit away for forever, and they never actually fulfill their own destiny. So the five two has to ideally get clear on what their gifts are and allow those gifts time to marinate, because that is a huge part of their process, and they don't do well with pressure. So trying to pressure them is often a recipe for more hermiting. And the reality is they have to just allow themselves to be in their process, which they can't explain anyway.

And then when the time is right, they call themselves out and they make a massive influence. It's important to understand these people tend to be suspicious of other people, and they're suspicious of what they're told they're good at. They're suspicious of what other people say to them because they don't necessarily feel that. Then they feel pressured to fulfill those gifts, and it just creates a whole world of struggle. But it's only when they spend time alone actually cultivating those gifts when they feel confident enough to call themselves out. Although they will never have 100% confidence in their gifts and talents, however, it's their belief that actually joles them into the projection field. Also, I think it's probably important to note that rejection for this profile is incredibly hard. When they get rejected, it often means they've stepped into the projection field and they've answered the call from somebody else, or they didn't honor the timing of themselves.

And that has a really, really long lasting impact on the five two, which can be absolutely detrimental to them in actually moving forward and feeling whole and confident in having belief in themselves. So when we have a five two profile, we have the disruptor introvert. Some questions that we can ask them that may be supportive are, is this something I should live up to? What benefit does this bring to me? Does this nourish me or does this deplete me? Does this make me feel magnetic and attractive? Or do I feel unattractive and magnetic? Can I actually deliver on the projections that are being projected on me? Have I been in my introvert vortex for too long, too long? What are the things that bring me joy? And what am I innately talented about but can't explain why or what passive experience do I believe has changed my life? Am I calling myself out or am I being called by another? Am I willing to fall on the sword for this? Am I being pressured to take action before I am ready? And am I or do I feel pressured to perform because others said I'm good at blank? So that is the five two heretic hermit in traditional human design, or as I like to say, the disruptor introvert. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll talk to you all soon.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. On this episode I dive into the unique personality profile of 5/1, who are here to disrupt the way things have always been done and forge a better foundation by universalizing a practical solution for all.  

These are people who are must honor the fact that in order to be successful in life they need a solid foundation to stand upon and they move out into the projection field with confidence once that foundation is built. , I offer some tips on how to handle the projection field, foundations and more.

If you want to dive deeper into human design I invite you to explore the HD Wild Program. 

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The five one profile known as the heretic investigator in traditional human design or an ecocentric human design. The disruptor researcher, you are here to disrupt the way that it has always been done, burn it down, break it, and start anew. You're here to blaze a new trail perhaps before your time. You'll find your way by cultivating and nourishing a foundation, one by one, you light the way illuminating the path for many this new way once thought of as crazy is the catalyst for a life better lived a life with more ease. You establish a new standard, bringing many together with your power, step into the light and be seen when it's time. Honor the timing of your life to be seen or not. This is the key for you to thrive. So we've got the five one profile here, and this is a profile that has the highest universalizing power of the transpersonal or left angle profile.

So where the bigger number comes first. And these are people who fifth lines, as you know, live in the projection field. So four or five, one, their first projection is a little bit different than the other fifth line profiles and that it's usually positive. And then the second projection is usually negative. So we want to keep that in mind as we go through this. So I think it's important to understand that the first line foundation, this is the authoritarian, this is the conservative. These are the people who have to have all the information in place before they move forward. The first line is the foundation of the hexagram, and then you have the fifth line. This is the disruptor, this is the general, the hoarder, the seducer, the magnetic. This is kind of the rebel of all of the lines in human design. And this lives on the second story.

If we use the metaphor of the house to explain the lines, and this is the second story, but it's the second story window with the lights on, but the window's closed and there's an air of mystery about it. When we look at this, we have to understand that five ones are mysterious and magnetic and they really have this sort of non-conformity about them and they kind of differ from the three five, and that what they're here to disrupt tends to be a bit more veiled. So we have to remember that four or five one, the first

Is almost always positive, right? It's a positive projection. And the reality is this is a profile that carries a great deal of responsibility. They have a responsibility to almost be a superior human. And they live in the projection field, the projection field on the mine side. And they are often very misunderstood by other people. And people don't ever really truly understand the depth of their being. And the reality is they take their knowledge and their research and the foundation that they've established and they universalize it. And the intention for them is always to impact large numbers of people. But the challenge here is that they have to have a keen understanding of when it's time to come in and universalize. And that first line empathy can really trip them up because the reality is they have this tendency to want to be a savior and they say things like, Ooh, I can do that and that and help other people, even though that's not the thing that they originally came to disrupt.

And when that happens, we call this rather burning at the stake like a three five in the five one. This is a fall from grace for the disruptor researcher, right? This is a fall from grace. And if they have a six two in their life, the six two can usually kind of help them soften this fall from grace. That second projection, if you will, and the reality four or five one is when they have this fall from grace, when that second projection comes, it's often because they stayed out too long saving the day and they didn't honor the timing or they didn't answer the right call. They let their empathy get the best of them, or they didn't have an effective solution for the call, or they weren't actually in touch with the people. So one of the things that's important to remember, four or five, one more so than any other fifth line, is that they have to have a practical, pragmatic solution that works for everyone, for whatever it is that they're here to disrupt.

Whereas in a three five, their solution doesn't have to actually work for everyone. And so this profile in particular, their experts at their craft, they enjoy coming in to disrupt when all else has fail because they're certain, because they've established such a solid foundation that their solution will actually work for other people. They're very effective at getting results for whatever that one thing it is that they've gotten for results for people. But the reality is timing is really important for them. And answering the correct projections is also really key. So for these people, they must only answer the projection when they feel super secure. And that feeling of secureness or insecurity, whichever one comes up, is not the right projection for the five one. And the five one has to learn to realize that not every projection is for them, and they have to put their ego aside and they have to put their empathy aside.

And they really have to understand that projections bring possibility, but that's not a guarantee for success. And oftentimes the five one, they can see that people need help and their empathy takes over and they stay out in the projection field too long and they get themselves in trouble. But the reality is the five one isn't here to rush things. They're methodical, they're deliberate, they're calculated. But the reality is they have to be really discerning about what they're willing to fall from grace about. And the five one ideally or optimally gets their homework done, gets prepared behind closed doors, they hoard information, they demand answers, they cultivate details. And then only when they feel attractive and secure and magnetic do they step out into the projection field and put their message out there. So the reality is these are people who are going to need time behind closed doors alone preparing to answer the call, and they're creative and they can leverage their sort of unorthodox way of seeing the world in order to step out into the projection field with their practical solution.

So it's important to understand that this is a profile who spends a lot of time observing the world around them, and they don't necessarily fully reveal themselves to other people. They're often deep individuals who need time alone in order to sort out their foundation. And it is in this time where they're alone and withdrawn, that they build up the confidence and the safety and the security and the strength and the resources in order to actually create that practical, pragmatic solution. So the five ones here, and they're hoarding their information and they're hoarding all this knowledge and they're gaining all this information and they're getting more and more projections, but they're like, my foundation's not there yet. My foundation's not there yet. My foundation's not there yet. And then one day the foundation is there and they have all these projections that a buildup, and then they can step out into the field.

They can come out from behind their window and their curtain and then they can universalize. And so the five one ideally thrives. There are systems and processes in place to be relied on, but this requires them to be very disciplined and patient and remembering to withdraw once their projection has been fulfilled. And I've seen this with five ones that I have as clients. They stay out too long, they put out an offer or a program or a course or whatever, they help somebody with something and they're like the other person's talking to them and they're projecting on them and they're like, oh, actually I can help you with that too. And ultimately what happens is they can't fulfill on that second projection. They weigh that they can on the first projection, and they actually get themselves into a fall from grace. Their reputation is hurt.

The reality is five ones are incredibly powerful and influential, and they're here to change the world for the better. But they have to make sure that they honor the timing of their life. That's really key for them in order to actually create beauty and creativity and solutions for the people. So the challenges of the five one, the disruptor researcher are many, right? I don't want to sugarcoat it here. They live in the projection field. That is never an easy thing to do. I know I'm a three five. So these are people who according to raw, the founder of human design, the hopes and dreams of humanity rest on the shoulders of a fifth line. And so we have to understand that these are people who are constantly being projected on and they have to reckon and contend with that projection. And the reality is they have be willing to fall from grace so that they can bring their universalization to life.

Five ones don't tend to fall as hard, or their refutation doesn't tend to suffer as much as that of a three five or a five, two or a five, a two five. But it's important to understand these are still people who have to make sure that the foundation that they're bringing to light is really solid. And I've seen this a lot with five ones in multiple different stages and aspects. The business, they think that they're ready to do something and the reality is it's far more complicated than it needs to be, and it's not really practical or pragmatic, and the solution doesn't necessarily work for everyone. Or they try to rush through the process. They think like, ah, I got to hurry up. And they get into this not self of their mind, and then they step out into the projection field and it just doesn't work for them.

And they have to understand that it's not a matter of if a fall from grace happens, it's a matter of when, but they can actually leverage a six two in order to help them repair their reputation. And it can be very helpful to have an ally of a 6, 2, 4 or five one in their lives. Because the reality is we trust six twos. We trust the word of a six two, we just do. And so we trust the word of the six two. So the six two can speak on behalf of the five one and their reputation or not. And so understanding who you have in your circle might be really helpful for you to establish more trust and repair your reputation when a fall from grace happens. As I mentioned, the five one is incredibly empathetic because empathy is the bonding strategy of the first line.

But the empathy here can seduce, right? Because the fifth line sort of seduces people to it, the fifth line with that one might actually seduce itself out into the world because of the fact that there's empathy there before they have all these details in place before all the knowledge has been acquired. And again, this happens from a fall from grace, and the five one ends up really hurt when this happens. So being really mindful of this as a five one is incredibly important to living out your design correctly. The other piece to keep in mind is that strategy and authority are key here. And really understanding the timing of your life and paying attention to the timing of your life and really having this awareness around is this a first projection or is this a second projection? Because the reality is if they don't trust that timing of their life, if they let their empathy get the best of them, that fall from grace happens.

And ultimately for a five one that gives them damage, their confidence and their attractiveness, and it shakes and rattles their foundation that they built. And these are people, they thrive on processes and systems, and they're often called to implement new ways of doing things. But as a result, because they're so innovative, people are like, oh, well since you did this, can you do that? And that second projection is never good for a five one. So they become too powerful, too controlling, too disruptive to the other humans, even though they probably just came in and saved the person's day. Kind of ironic. So there's all of that. Then there's also answering the wrong projections, which is also very problematic for the five one, which again leaves to damage in their attractiveness, damage in their confidence, and that tends to happen more so when they haven't had that really, really solid foundation.

So when we think of this from the perspective of how do we actually support a five one human in our lives, we have to remember that there's some questions we can ask the five one in order to help them align to who they are. So questions like, am I attractive? Do I have enough knowledge? How do I know when I will have enough knowledge? How do I know when I will have a solid enough foundation? What other details or pieces might be missing? Is this solution practical enough for everybody? Do I or am I tuning into my strategy and authority? Does the timing of this feel correct for me? Have I worked out all the details for my practical solution? Have I outstay my welcome? Is there a six two in my life that can be of counsel to me or help me rebuild my trust if I fall from Grace? And what can I learn from? Or what's a lesson I can learn when I've answered the wrong call? Lastly, is my support team projecting on me what they believe I should be? Or am I actually owning all that I am? That is the five one profile, the heretic investigator in traditional human design or in Ecocentric human design, the Disruptor Researcher. Thank you so much for tuning in. I hope you have a fantastic day. I.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. On this episode I dive into the unique personality profile of four ones, who are both resilient and true to their values despite external pressures to conform. They offer guidance to help people with this profile stay true to themselves and their observations, maintain their value in their network, and trust themselves to pick up the pieces if they feel broken.

These are people who are strong and steadfast individuals, how these traits arise early in life and continue into adulthood, and how to strike a balance between knowledge acquisition and influence. I offer some tips on how to handle societal pressure that may lead to conformity rather than a balance of traits. These individuals to a "train on a track," focused on their goals and able to assess situations quickly.

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The four one profile, the opportunist investigator, or as I like to say, the mayor researcher, you are the oak that Astands tall. After the hurricane passes through stable, steadfast, and observing. You are wise beyond your years. And you see it all, but yet you don't need to say it. You read between the lines of the words you observe, you study, you influence because you meet the other where they are. You own your unique fixedness. You weather it all and come out stronger. You are the leader, the head of house, the one people come to for support. Relentless in your ability to be consistent. You stand tall, you support others in getting their wings stable, strong, reliable. Okay, so let's dive into the four one. I think the most important thing to understand is that the form one profile is less than 2% of the population. It is known as having a juxtaposition fate. So what that means is the form one doesn't have a personal destiny and it doesn't have a destiny that involves other people. It has a fixed destiny. So these are people who are, for lack of a better word, rigid.

They are part personal part involving other people. They're part relationship based. But the reality is Wally's lines are in harmony. The foreign one are in harmony. These people can either be incredibly unstable or incredibly rigid. The four ones not this or that. It's not truly self-absorbed and it's not really transpersonal. The upper trigram, it's kind of straddled between the two and it's deeply fixed. I like to think of this sort of as the oak tree that stands tall for hundreds of years, weathering the season. That's kind of the way of the four one profile. It's funny because my dad is a four one and there's a giant oak tree in the back of my yard. And when I wrote this, it's literally what I thought of. So the four is here to build a network and the one is here to acquire knowledge. So when we put the four one together, the four researches with the intent to share that information with their network, full stop. That's it. These are people who may be pressured into changing by others, but the reality is here to not waiver. And sometimes as a four one, you'll often witness them and they'll just agree with people to their

Face. Then behind the scenes or in their own lives, they just go about doing their own thing. They're kind of steadfast in their being. So the four goes with the flow publicly, and then it just goes on doing its own thing. And this profile really provides the world with a foundation that human resources and marketing can be developed upon. And because of the fact that they have a fixed fate, the world is what it is. There's no real rose colored glasses for a 4 0 1. And these are people that they can sniff out, literally sniff out who is strong and who is weak. They can smell weakness. And these are people that they, they're very accepting of the fact that like, Hey, look there. There's nothing I can do about this, right? There's something wrong here. There's nothing I can do about it. Why don't I just accept it?

So this happens because the four observes the other and the one studies the material and then they kind of just build this network of people. And because they're really fixed, they're just like, okay, well whatever, let's just move on. There's nothing I can do about it. And the reality is the gift of these people is that you can really benefit from the strength of their fixedness. These people are keenly aware of their own strengths and weaknesses and that awareness builds the foundation of their purpose and their security strategy. And subsequently, they can spot opportunity. No one else. They literally smell weakness. And when they are looking for ways, they can obviously use this to take advantage of other people. But in an ideal world, they use that to help others get on the path to their own opportunities. And the four one, it's a very strong profile.

And the reality is they recognize that other people can be influenced and they often use their influence and their fixedness to influence other people. And these are people who they can bend a little bit, but they really aren't often really willing to give up. And they explore and they discover and they interact with the world with the intent to share that knowledge in order to gain influence. And there's always this little bit of undercurrent of insecurity ever present with this profile, which often bubbles up internally. It's not usually shared with the outside world, but the reality is they have a really strong network. They, they're sort of like the oak tree that survives the hurricane. Like I said, there's probably a 300 year old or 250 year old oak tree in my backyard. And this is literally what I think of when I think of the four one.

It's weathered hundreds of people around it. It's weathered countless storms and seasons and all that sort of stuff. And that's a great way to think about the four one. So it's important to understand that in relationships, this is a double theme of foundation. And these are often single mi minded, pointy, but bendable people, they're incredibly hard to break. And if a four one does break, it's really hard for them to put their lives together. This is one of the only profiles where if they do break, it's a really challenging thing for them to pick up the pieces of their life. These are people, they're friendly, they're curious, they're very persuasive, and they learn from everything and everyone. And so they're taking in both the relational world, the four, five and six, the relational world, and they're taking in the material world one, two, and three.

So they're street smart and they never miss a beat. They're in awe of everything going on around them and they can quickly act at assess any situation. I always think of this as when I was a teenager, I could never get away with anything because my dad always knew, was well aware of any of the things he'd already thought about the 17 things that I might be doing to get myself in trouble. But these people are the backbone of their network. They can't be pushed around, but they can be dependent on. And the four one picks up on everything, but they're very grounded. They're a safe haven for people in their world, and they're often really this person who people go to when they need support in how to get back on track. It's important to understand though that the four one is a train on a track.

You can't change the train's direction. The train can just can't take a left hand turn or a right hand turn. It's stuck on the track. And that's how these people are designed by design here to operate. And so they build this solid foundation of expertise from an area that fascinates their mind and they use the knowledge that they have to influence others. So researching and becoming an expert in a topic and then transforms them from the four month theme of insecurity into an authority and a true expert, they're unwavering in their expertise and knowledge and once they establish that foundation, they can leverage the network and they can just move forward in that field that they've chosen. I think it's important to understand that the challenges here are many because these are, think of this as the outlier of all the profiles. The four one is the only profile, and I think it's probably worth noting.

There's only, I think three or four hours every year that this profile shows up. So the four one, it can be broken. And when they are broken, it's incredibly hard for them to pick up the pieces of their lives. And they often become broken because they've betrayed themselves. Somebody just, I think of it, they just graded on them so long that they broke. I think of it like Humpty Dumpty. These people break and they shatter into a million pieces. And that's very different than all of the other 11 profiles in human design. And this is because it allowed someone to influence them and they influenced them so much that they broke. And this often comes from the pressure to conform. And they're not meant to conform, they they're here to influence. So from this appears to be the outside world as a breaking point. But for the four one, it often happens when they pleased other people so much and then they break, they gave away too much of themselves, and then they fall and they fall hard.

They fall hard. There's a four one in of my programs that has struggled with this and they've struggled to pick back up the pieces and they have to start over. They essentially start over and they have to learn to not betray themselves because that betrayal is what broke them in the first place. They're not here to please other people. They have to remain true to themselves. So because they are fixed fate, because they're like the oak tree, because they're steadfast, these are people who often get a lot of labels, they take a lot of projections and they take a lot of judgment from the outside world because they are so rigid. They're also incredibly rare, and they're unflexible, they're unwilling to negotiate. They're often kind of difficult, but that's simply the way of the four one. And so as a result, these are people who may struggle to work in collaboration with others.

They may even be seen as backstabbing, but the four one doesn't like to rock the boat. So they'll often just shake their head yes to something not in agreement and then go on and do their own thing. But the four one, a healthy four one doesn't know how to be anybody but themselves. They can, and that can bring up a lot for other people. And while the four one is here to be steadfast and provide GU guidance to others, their steadfast presence can trigger others by simply existing, which can then lead them to feel pressure to conform, to change who they are. And that's really not something that they're here to do. They're really just here to own who they are. And so they have to remain true to who they are regardless of what might come up. And they can change their mind. The four one will change their mind if they have good facts and they have good stats, and somebody can make a good argument.

So somebody might make that argument, then they're going to go research. But the reality is, over time, they only become more and more of who they are. They only become more and more steadfast. They only become stronger in their beliefs and their definitiveness grows, their strength grows, their influence goes. But I will say the four, one wound of the child kind of runs deep and it's often carried into adulthood. These are kids who are labeled difficult or stubborn. They don't go with the flow. So they know what they want. They know what they believe, and they're, they're not convincible. They're not bribe able. And so this resilience is challenging for parents. And so this often leads parents to push and push and push them or teachers to push and push and push 'em until them they break. And then that gives away their sense of self.

So these are children often pressured to do things they don't like to do, and it's like, why can't you just go with the flow? And that often ripples into their adulthood. I've also noticed that they're kind of like the ringleader of sorts or they're keenly aware and observant of other people and they know with great specificity what they can and they cannot get away with. And they have this sort of street smartness about them. And so they kind of test the boundaries of things. And this testing often leads parents and teachers and societies imposing their will on the four one, and then they pressure them to conform to quote what's expected of them.

And I would say the biggest challenge with this profile is the fact that because they're pressured, they often kind of lean into that one side rather than having this healthy balance between the four and the one. So what happens is they often just knowledge acquisition, knowledge acquisition, knowledge acquisition, and then they never really fully step into that four and have sort of that wonderful four one balance that's ideal for them. So it's all about striking the balance between gathering knowledge on something that you love while simultaneously using that knowledge to influence other people. And many four ones settle for doing work that they don't love, but the four one and its highest expression is here to do work that they love. They have to seek knowledge in areas that light them up so they can take that knowledge, that street smart and use it to influence other people.

And I think it's also important to note that four one s, I love my four one s, but they're also, they can be incredibly conditioning people, so that's something to be mindful of if you have a four one in their lives. But the four ones here to straddle the personal and the relationship world. They're here to live in both worlds. They're here to show a strength and resilience. They're here to weather the storms of life. These are the people who you can go to and ask for help in a crisis. They're very good at that. They bend and they waiver a little bit, but they don't really break. It's really hard to get a four one to break. So ideally, they're true to themselves and their values, and therefore they influence other people with the unique lens that they see the world. Some questions to ask a four one profile.

Am I remaining true to myself? What am I an expert in? Have I been honoring my need to network? Am I using my observations and awareness and service of others? Am I compromising myself in order to fit in? Did I enter into this relationship with my strategy and authority? Are the people in my life accepting me as I am or pressuring me to change? Am I influencing in a way that feels authentic to me? What are my core values? What do I stand for? Where am I naturally influential? Am I honoring my worth? Am I being valued? Am my network? How can I use my steadfastness to influence? Where do I smell weakness? Am I, are the people in my life seeing me for me and accepting me for me? And if I feel broken, how can I be sure to learn to develop trust with myself in order to pick up the pieces of my life? That is the four one Mayor researcher. Thanks so much for tuning in. We'll talk to y'all soon.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. Today's episode the 4/6 profile in human design known as the Opportunist  Role Model. This profile moves about the world with a deep set of core values that is here to influence others while being of couincil to others.. They live their life in three distinct phases and are here to be of influential with their strong core values 

 The 4/6 is here to grow and develop their success through their network by listening and influence those around them with their core values while stepping into a role model during their phase 3. 

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The four six profile, the opportunist role model, or as I like to say, the mayor mentor, you are steadfast, reliable, and here to connect with others. You move through the world with deliberate actions. You thrive when your network is vibrant, growing and resourced. Your presence calms with your accepting nature and you expect the same. You can't be rush. You move to your own rhythm and on your own terms, your wisdom and network flourishes as you age. You balance the desire to be with people while finding solace and being alone. This time alone only fuels your impact and wisdom. You are a leader with a mission. Okay, so let's dive into the mayor, mentor, the four six profile. So this is the only profile where both of the lines are in the upper trigram of the hexagram. So four, four and six. So the foundation of the second floor and the roof.

However, they have a destiny that is, it's personal. They have a personal destiny, right? Because the lower number is in the beginning. So these are people who are here to share their own truths and share their own values. But still, it's a kind of internal process here they are still sort of self-absorbed. And so the fourth line mayor is kind accepting and takes things that face value. They're a good friend and they're reliable and they have power over their network. And the fourth line really needs to oscillate time with people listening and then time alone. And they really have this gift for building networks. They're one of those people who they can pick up the phone and speak to somebody they haven't talked to in 10 years and just pick up where they left off. And these are not people, particularly in the business world that do well with cold introductions or cold traffic. I don't want to say that it's impossible, but it's a lot harder. So then we have the sixth line here. And the sixth line doesn't like to get close to many people because it obscures their view. It obscures their future. And the fourth line yearns to communicate in the sixth line. It often refrains. So when these two lines come together, they are here to really take, they're kind of the

Representative, what it means to live a nine centered life. They take the themes of the lower trigram and they universalize them. They take the themes of foundation and building and experimenting and just being naturally talent. And they externalize those based on their beliefs. Now, they don't do all those things, I want to be really clear. But they're here to take foundations, the things that emerge from lines one, lines two and three, and speak them as what they know to be their truth. They model them and they show others what it means to live au authentically. And they typically have this sort of keen sense of self-awareness. They thrive on stability and they do need a solid foundation in order to thrive. And once that foundation is established, they can then share their truth. Of course, because this is a sixth line profile, they live their life in three phases.

Phase one, they bump into opportunities kind of in a more objective way than the other six lines. And they take in foundations that then over time and their phase two become their truths and become kind of the core values that they live by. And so of course during phase one as a four six, they're going to operate more like a third line. So this can be challenging for them because that fourth line does not like to rock the boat. And that sixth line is living life as a third line. And they don't do well with change. They don't adapt quickly. And this can really cause a lot of turbulence for four sixes since they thrive on stability. And then in phase two, they really begin to establish the foundation of their life. They establish a career and a family, and they get clear on their truths, this versus that, and what they believe during that phase two.

And this is that time where their network is established, those that, so that in phase three they can become the benefactor because that four line oscillates between dependent and benefactor and confidant or not. And it's important to understand that it is during phase three when they climb onto the roof and they claim their INF influence, they vocalize their mis mission and they really truly step into themselves. I wouldn't say that the four six is more tolerant of change than the other six line profiles, but this is only because they can see the long view, they can see the perception and perspective can change because of that six line, the four six is here to change the perspective of other people, and they establish accepting relationships and they accept other people and they want people to accept us. And when that doesn't happen, it really rocks the boat for the four six.

And most of the time this profile doesn't do well with strangers. I say that because there's always exceptions to that rule, but caveat, caveat, caveat, particularly for entrepreneurs, these are not people who thrive on cold traffic. They do much better when people come from their network. I always use the example of my husband. He's a four six projector and he does hiring. And if he hires somebody through his network or who do you know, the person always accepts if it's somebody cold that he solicited or came in randomly, it tends to not do so well. So it's important to understand that these people are here to influence as a four six. You are here to influence. But the fact is, in order for them to influence the four six actually has to listen to other people in order to get the ability to influence them.

And that's the piece. So if they're not cold, they haven't spent any time listening to them. And so it's this weird dichotomy for the four six. So it's important to understand that if they have a cold person, they're often rejected, which then leads to disappointment and sadness and often retreat for a four six. The aligned four six is here. They observe and they engage and they look for those that they can trust. They look for those that can have a confidant, and they look for people where there's sort of this m mutual benefit from the relationship. That's why in traditional human design, it's called the opportunist opportunist. So these people are here to influence and change the lives of others through their message. These are people who are often, they're kind souls, they accept people as they are, and they really do want the same out of their relationship.

I kind of always think they're kind of an old soul, but in reality, these are people who can often be a little bit misunderstood. I don't want to sugarcoat that. And I think one of the things that's important to understand, particularly from a business perspective, fourth lines in general are not necessarily here to reinvent the wheel in terms of creating something from scratch. They're here to take something that they identify with, that they believe in and externalize that. And I think that's where, that's one of the big challenges that I see with the four mayor mentor, particularly in business. And when we come to the challenges of this profile, they can spend too much time listening. They can spend too much time bumping into things. They can really have a lot of tension within themselves. So for them, it's really important that they learn to honor their strategy and authority so that they don't face exhaustion because too much listening is too much for them, not enough listening.

Then they'll have no one to influence, and they're really here to influence the other, not the other influencing them. I think it's important to understand that st stability is inherent in their beings. So they do need to have stability in their lives, and stability comes when they have people that they can rely on. It's not necessarily the stability of the first line where it's like safety, security, et cetera, et cetera. While that's important for a fourth line, it's more important for them to have people that they can rely on. So a tight inner circle, a tight group of friends who accept them. And that can be really challenging for them during the first 30 years. And I think one of the other things to remember with the four six is when the trust of a four six is broken, especially during childhood, a big part of their heart can be wounded.

These are children who they can often become mean and cold when they're rejected, and especially when they're rejected for their truths or when their trust is broken. So relationships are really important for them, and that that's a factor that's going to want, you're going to want to carry through into adulthood. And I think it's important to understand that anytime you have a fool in a profile, these are people who they might not do things at the same speed as other people. The fourth line, it doesn't want to be rushed. And oftentimes people think, oh, well, if I just give this kid some tough love, they'll grow up faster. And the reality is the four six, they're often pushed out of the home too early and they really struggle. And the fact that the four six in particular is this theme of benefactor dependent, trusting, not trusting confidant, not trust, not confidant leader, not leader.

It, it's important to understand that that four is going to be dependent on its parents for a while or their parents for a while. And when they, they're pushed out of the nest too early, it can be really quite traumatic for them. I think the other thing to think about when we think about the four six is that these are people who can struggle with in indecision, and they are people who often the sixth line just wants to kind of observe without bothering people. The fourth thrives, I'm being with people. And so they can get into this indecision of do I choose this or do I choose that? And they really kind of can struggle to see from the roof clearly because they can be down with the people and having space and time for them to figure out what they believe is really, really important.

And in order for them to change their mind or their beliefs on things, they often need time and retreat. But that happens very slowly over time. I always think of when I have a four six client and I have quite a few of them, it's more like turning a tanker ship or a cruise ship. Those things don't like turn on a dime. They're not going to do a quick pivot it. They're slow to change and adapt because they need to test what the new truth is. They need to test the new beliefs that they're sort of trying out, and that doesn't happen quickly. Whereas a third line or a three five or a three six, they can kind of get up and they can pivot and they just move, right? I think of it almost like a football player who pivots really quickly. That is not the four six.

So I think that's really important to note if you know, have this profile, if you have somebody in your life that has this profile. Okay, so questions to ask. The four, six, mayor, mentor, tell me about X something that they're interested in. Who do you know that X? Help them tap onto their network. What's your stance on da, da da, da? Is this person in my net network a confidant? Am I honoring the timing of my life? Is it time to stop observing and start networking? Who do I know that can help me with X? Who do I know that would benefit? Did I enter into this relationship with my strategy and authority? Did this person come from my network or was it a stranger? Is there anyone here I can trust? What is in this for me? How can I benefit? Do I feel safe, loved, and accepted in my relationships? And have I spent too much time listening to others and now I am exhausted? Thank you so much for tuning in to the four six profile, the Opportunist role model, or as I like to say, the Mayor Mentor. We'll talk to y'all soon.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. Today's episode the 3/6 profile in human design known as the Martyr Role Model. This profile moves about the world with a deep inner wisdom and oscilates between experimentation and observation. They live their life in three distinct phases and are here to be of trusted council to the world. 

 The 3/6 needs to go through cycles of trial and error in order to embody the wisdom and step into the role model mentor role. These people experiement, create allegencies and build trust as the lead by being of council to others. They are deeply wise and their wisdom becomes stronger with age. 

If you want to dive deeper into human design I invite you to explore the HD Wild Program. 

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The three six profile, the martyr role model in traditional human design, or as I like to say, the experiment mentor, you are here to experiment and mentor others from the wisdom of your experiments. You are resilient, authentic, and you lead the people with your insights. You are sought out for your counsel. You find equilibrium by honoring your pull to dance with life while nourishing yourself with alone time. You build trust slowly with those who believe in your fundamentals. You show us what it means to be an embodied, authentic leader who isn't afraid to fail. Your failure fuels your wisdom, your strength and determination inspire every soul you come in contact with. Let's dive into the three six profile. So with the three six, we are here with the third line, the experimenter. And they're really the transition between the first floor and the second floor.

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This is really how we make material in the world. This is how we have success on the material plane. And then you have the sixth line who's here to be a mentor and a role model and really to show us how to lead in the world through guiding and giving others their quote, blessing or stamp of approval. So this profile is a challenging profile because for the first 30 years, the six line exists in three phases. Phase one to 30, phase two, 30 to 50, phase three, 50 and beyond. And roughly, roughly, those ages are approximate, but in the first 30 years, they're living as a double three profile. So there is a lot of trial and error and experiment. And from the outside world, it can be very challenging. There can be a lot of failures that happen.

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There can be a lot of failures that happen for the three six profile, and it can come with a lot of shame and guilt. But there's also deep wisdom in learning that happens during that phase of experimentation. And then in phase two, which is 30 to 50 years, is a period of retreat as they go and they kind of build their foundation and they climb back and they go to the roof and they begin to observe and they begin to try to heal those wounds that they experienced in their first 30 years. This is often where they establish a family and they build a foundation. But businesses often they kind of do things a little bit aloof here, they're not super connected to it. And then in phase 30, which is kind of 50 years and beyond, they start to

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Reengage with life. They come down from the roof or as I like to say, they kind of get their wings and they can oscillate between this time of retreat and this time of being with the people. And they have gained this wisdom, but they still have these wounds they've gotten for the first 30 years. And I always like to say, I don't think most six lines wounds heal like a third line. I think they're always kind of tender. And so these are people who can be skeptical. They're very discerning with who they trust. They often observe before they engage, and yet people are constantly seeking out their approval. But the challenge here is the third line wants to get into the field of life. They want to operate on the material plane, they want to be on the playing field. And the sixth line kind of prefers to be on the roof.

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And the third line wants to get its hands to his things. And they've got double third line for their first 30 years. And so this is a struggle. These are people who bump into things, life bumps into them, and they have to realize that they are not a failure. It's they move about the world through trial and error. That's how they experience the world. And there is this resiliency that is developed during that phase one. And it's during that phase one that they also gain the experiences they need to turn that into wisdom in phases two and three. And so they experience what life is like and they realize like, oh man, I don't know that I actually like this. And they may feel sort of unfulfilled or incomplete or weary of life. And then into phase two, they begin to experience more a tension.

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It's almost like they have two different personalities. The three, it bumps into things, life bumps into them. And then in they've got their sixth line that wants to retreat so they can become disinterested in life and what life has to offer because they've bumped into so many things. And there's often a lot of wounds from the first 30 years of life that they just like, I don't want to be down with the people. I don't feel safe to be down with the people. I'm going to stay up here. But the third line's like, and I want to jump into things. And so there's this tension. And particularly during phases two and three, there's challenges that they face with perfectionism and trust and in decision. And it's during that second phase where they're here to establish a family. They're here to have security and build that sense of what's, what does my life look like?

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What does my career look like? What does my family look like? And that happens in phase two, but depending upon what happened in their first 30 years, they either balance this tension well or they don't feel safe to head out into the world at all. And there's usually not a lot of nuance in between that. It's like people typically fall into one of two camps. And so at a healthy expression, they need to balance their desire to experiment and gain wisdom while also honoring their need to observe. And then in phase three, they kind of fully embody, they fully step onto the roof. They fully incorporate that wisdom that they learn from the first 30 years of life. And they're still going to bump into things. And the bumping into things is often for them so that they can have more wisdom. But the reality is they have this unique perspective.

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They are a valuable resource. They're a sounding board to other people. And they don't really lead by getting their hands dirty. They, they may lead by getting their hands dirty for themselves, but that's not necessarily how they guide other people. People will come to the three six for council and they'll get guidance, and then the three six will immediately get back on the roof and observe. But understand that these are people, it takes time for these people to develop self-confidence, develop self-trust to gain mastery, because there's this constant dancing with their discoveries of their third line and the wisdom that comes along with that. And then the sixth line to be a living example of lesson learned. So these are people who as they mature, they gain more wisdom, they gain more trust, they gain more confidence over time, and they embody leading by learning from mistakes.

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And they really have a resilience to stick with the course in spite of what might come up. So the three six s are resilient, they're strong, and they have a capacity to show the world a new way to lead. They persevere. And I think it's important to understand that the challenges here are abundant. And the reality is awareness is key because the three and the six operate fundamentally differently. One's in the lower trigram, but they face two different struggles. So they often might feel like they're just fighting themselves or that they have two different personalities. And really learning to navigate that becomes key. And I always say six lines. They kind of have this wound from the first 30 years that's tender. And that leads them to struggle to trust other people. It may lead them to sit in indecision, it may lead them to perfectionism.

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And they'll sit there and they'll tweak and they'll hone and they'll adjust and they'll modify and they learn and observe for years. And they never really step into that mental role. And I think it's important to note that, and nobody really talks about this, but I think it's important to mention that just because you're a sixth line does not mean that you're automatically guaranteed to step into that role model role, particularly if you have not been following your strategy and an authority. So understand that this three six, they may never step into that mental role because they don't feel safe. And it's important to understand that there is a lack of trust, both internally and externally. They don't trust themselves to come down the roof because they don't know what will happen if they're going to get tackled. And then they don't know if they can trust other people.

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So it's important for them to integrate the experience experiments that they had into learning so that six line can carry that with them. And the reality is when they do turn that into wisdom, they'll thrive. And it's important for them to understand that the sixth line doesn't want to get hurt. But that's kind of how the third line operates. The third line operates through trial and error. So there's a tension there that exists. And three, six children, they're often labeled as failures. They often make a lot of, they make and break a lot of bongs early in life, and they often carry those wounds into adulthood. They often experience a lot of shame and a lot of mistakes. And it really piles up to leaving them feeling inferior to other people. And this may lead them wanting to give up and hide away. And so teaching a three six child, this is how you go about learning in the world and that your discover great discoveries come from experimentation is really important.

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And so for a three six, we want them to be engaged in the wonder of life. But these childhood wounds can carry a great deal of distress into adulthood. For the three six, they end up with trust issues and they struggle in relationships. They also can really get into indecision of whether or not they should move forward, or whether it's the right time or not, or whether they should get off the roof or whether or not they should engage in life. And really understanding and leaning into their strategy and authority is really what becomes key, because perfectionism is ever present in a three six. They have high standards, they have high expectations. They don't really like to fully commit to things until they are certain they can meet the expectations they've set for themselves. And often their expectations that they've set for themselves are incredibly realistic.

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So there's a lot that you have to kind of contend with as a three six. But the reality is they are keenly aware of the fact that there are many ways to accomplish the same thing. And there is no one answer. There are many answers. And that's a really important thing to understand. So some questions to ask A three six profile, can I trust this person, this idea, this environment? What did I learn from this experience? Am I sitting in indecision? What do you recommend? Even though you may not want to personally be involved? Am I identifying with my mistakes or am I using, looking at my mistakes as a way in which I gained wisdom? Where might I need to reestablish a bond in my relationships? Am I sitting on the fence of indecision? Am I obsessing over something as a means to avoid moving forward or coming off of the roof? Am I spending time alone? Am I spending time with people? And lastly, what stories am I telling myself that are no longer serving me? That is the three six profile. Thank you so much for tuning in.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. Today's episode the 3/5 profile in human design known as the martyr heretic. This is profile that is here to experiment, disrupt and embody the wisdom of their trial and error as they show other a new way to do things when all else has failed. 

This is one of the projected profiles and the 3/5 needs to be mindful of answering the correct projections or they will end up bruised and "burned at the stake." .These are people who oscilate between acceptance and rejection, bonds made and bonds broken, and attractive and unattractive.  It is key for people with this profile to get clear on what their values are so that they can know what is worth while for them to be seen for. Let's dive into the 3/5 profile in human design

If you want to dive deeper into human design I invite you to explore the HD Wild Program. 

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The three five profile, the martyr, heretic in traditional human design or as I like to say, the experimenter disruptor. You are a visionary here to change the way we see the world. You are a well of knowledge and you acquire this knowledge through your experimentations. You are curious, resilient, and have a deep capacity to thrive. You bring a new lens with which we can see the world when you were called upon a gift to humanity, to bring ease into the lives of others, a better way to do things. You are influential, a leader here before your time, but your time will come and you will answer the call and you'll be seen in all of your power as you disrupt the way things have always been done in order to bring some new, something better to the lives of those around you. All right, let's dive into the three five profile.

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So as you may or not may or may not know, I am a three five profile and I have many wonderful three fives in my life currently. And these are people who are here to dance through life bumping into things. They take the long road. And the reality is the third line is the transition between the lower hexagram and the upper hexagram. It's known as the stairs. And this is really where we make material in the world. The third line doesn't need others in order to fill, fulfill its destiny. While the fifth line, the disruptor is recognized as someone who is here with the capacity to help. The fifth line needs other people in order to fulfill their destiny. So when these two lines come together to make a profile, they're fearless, they're resilient, they change the way that things have always been done in order to pave a new way, something innovative, creative, influential.

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And the three five dances through life with trial and error experimentation. They take the long road and they use their power. This comes from the fifth line magnetism in attractiveness air quotes, because fifth lines don't always feel that way for the greater good. And so when we look at this, this is kind of the transition point. The third line transitions between the lower first floor and the second floor. And these are people who are here to experiment in the world and they go through a lot of trial and error. And this can lead them to really feeling like a quote failure. Their experimentation process is not part of their identity, it's just simply how they move throughout the world. And that was one of the biggest aha moments for me when I learned about being a three five, because I was carrying a lot of guilt

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And shame. And for me, learning that I moved through the world with trial and error was a very helpful thing. It allowed me to create this little bit of separation between all of the bumps and bruises and failed experiments and things that I had tried and hadn't hadn't worked out. And the reality is that's true for all third lines. They're here to take the long road, the unpaved road, and they do that so that they can gain wisdom for the people in their lives. And so they bump into things, they learn something new, and then they improve the world around them. And I always like to say it's not a matter of if a third line is going to get tackled when they go out into the world, it's just a matter of when. And then we have the fifth line. And the fifth line is that attic.

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And that's really the fifth line is really the highest universalizing power in terms of all of the lines in human design. And these are people who other people project their hopes and dreams and expectations on them. People love to just sit bask in the aura of a fifth line and particularly a three five because that is the highest expression of the lower trigrams. And so that fifth line when aligned is magnetic and selfless and attractive and influential when they answer the correct projections. And so when we bring these two profiles together, they're harmonic. But there's a lot of dichotomy that exists because the third line bumps into things and can be labeled a failure and can be projected on as a failure. And then that fifth line, people don't always get to see the true person. So these are people who can be pessimistic about life and the fact that other people put their stuff onto them all the time.

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And the reality is they are here to get into the ring of life. They are here to experience through trial and error, and they're here to get onto the playing field of life. But the reality is these are people who have a lot of depth and a lot of wisdom from experience. They can see faster than the other profiles what's going to work. And they also have this theme of bonds made in brokens. So they may need to renegotiate their relationships a lot. And there's really this idea of, are you with me as a three five? Because what they're here to disrupt is not for everyone, right? Because these are resilient people. They challenge the status quo, they disrupt and they see a better way to do things, and they really bring discipline to chaos. But not everyone sees them for who they are. And as a result, they often have this deep capacity to really be able to handle whatever life throws at them, both the good and the bad.

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And they sort through those things and they often can kind of pull out some learning and they bring new light and they bring new wisdom to a new way of doing things. And the reality is they universalize something, right? They're here to universalize something. They're here to bring something together in a new way when every other way has failed. So their message as a three five is not everyone's ready to hear that message. And that's really important. We're understanding your strategy and authority and honoring that as a three five becomes really in important. It becomes really critical because these are people, they're adaptable, they're fluid, they're bendable, they're resilient, and they thrive in chaos. And they see a different way to do things, which is often better, but they have to be kind of called or invited to bring that practicality to the table. Otherwise they will get burned at the stake.

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And these are people with their innovative way of innovative ways of doing things. They often have profound discoveries. They have massive growth, they create great change in the world, but they have to be really careful about who and when they share it because their ideas can seem really radical to other people, and they have to be called in when other things have failed. I look at my own business and I think about my life pre-human design and my agency, and I would share these things. And in hindsight, I could see that people weren't ready to receive those ideas. And now with human design, I wait, right? I will wait for that invitation. But I really like over and over again, I'm coming in on a daily basis these days for people who are tired of doing business in a homogenized way, who are tired of the one size fits all approach to building an online business.

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And they really want to kind of revolutionize the way that things are done. Those are the people that are ready to hear my message. But if there's somebody who's like, I'm happy in my X, Y, Z way of doing things, I'm happy in my pressure launch way of doing things, they're not going to be ready to hear my message. And therefore what will happen is they'll often burn me at the stake because they're not ready to hear that. And the reality is, as a three five, it's really important to get very clear on what your values are. What are you willing to be burned at the stake for? Because with this profile, you are going to bu you're going to get bump into things. So it's not a matter of if you quote, get burned at the stake, and that's Ros language. Think of that as your reputation is going to get bruised, particularly in the business world.

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But you're fearless, right? You're here to do things in a new way. So you have to go through these cycles of experimentations and failures and disappointments so that you can step into your role as a visionary and really help people do extraordinary things. Like you shine a light on new things. You bring new values and possibilities and beliefs, and you're often very generous and selfless and determined. But it's not a matter of if you're going to get tackled by life, life is going to tackle you. And oftentimes you're going to dust yourself up and keep going. You have this grittiness about you. You have this resilience, resilience and this capacity to endure and explore and learn and discover. But the reality is you will eventually get burned at the stakes. So establishing core values for you is a really important thing for those who are 3, 5, 3 fives.

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Because this can help them discern like, is this the right person for me? Is this the right person to have in my life? Is this the right person to support in my business? Because they're clear on what their values are. And I think that's where it can kind of get muddy for three fives. I know for me, I've gotten really clear on my core values and it has changed the game for me. And so the thing here is in some of the challenges that are present here are many, they're going to get labeled. You're going to get labeled as a failure as a three five, yet that's how you move about the world. You're also going to get projected on people are going to never actually truly see you. So you may need to actually repeat yourself multiple times. I highly recommend as a three five that you reframe your relationship with failure, particularly because many three fives are shamed early on for their mistakes.

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And so they can often feel unworthy or feel like they're not enough. But the reality is, as a three five, you're here to move about the world through trial and error. It's not who you are. It's how you experience the world. And so learning to dance with that is really important. So give yourself and those in your life, like the heads up, I need lots of space and grace. And you may also find many three fives that I've worked with. They're often stripped of their innocence really early. They get blamed for things they're projected on. They take on more responsibility before they're ready, and they often carry those wounds into adulthood. And learning to reclaim your power and your capacity as a three five becomes really important. And I think the other piece that's important to understand is that most people never truly see the whole of A three five.

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They're deep. They're a well of experience. They have a lot of awareness. They're curious. They have a lot of wisdom. And for them to really live at their highest expression and embrace that power and answer the correct calls, they have to be really clear on what their values are. What are they willing to go out into the world and get burned at the state for? What are they willing to go out into the world and experiment with? Because they will get tackled on the field of life, and they're here to be in the ring. You're here as a three five to be in the ring of life. You're here to get down lock arms with people and experience stuff. You're here to lead out in front. Let me blaze the trail. And so the reality is not everybody's going to see that because they're too busy projecting on you.

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They're too busy basking in the aura of you and projecting their own hopes and dreams, their own expectations on you. So being really clear about what you're willing to get out into the field of life for and to fight for becomes really important. So some questions that you can ask A three five profile. What did you learn from your experience? Is this something that you're actually willing to come in and save the day on? Is this your fight? Is it worth fighting for? Have you established your core values or principles? Where are you labeling yourself a failure? What is the lesson you will take with you from this experience? What is a better way to do X? Am I actually willing to be burned at the stake for this? Who is part of my community? Who is with me? Am I being labeled and projected on? Or is this something that I actually want to do? Where might I be giving my own power away? And am I doing something I believe in, or because I think I should or because so and so said I'm good at it. And then lastly, am I owning my role as a leader and a visionary? Thank you so much for tuning into the three five profile. We'll catch you on the next one.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for business I continue the deep dive int othe 12 profiles series in human design. Today's episode is focused on the 2/5 profile in human design known as the hermit heretic. This is profile that loves spending time alone but are here to universalize a practice solution for everyone when the time is corrrect. These 2/5 profile individuals are deeply creative, excellent at marketing, and can transform the world with their genius and practicality.

These are people who oscilate between nourisngment and depelestion and attractive and unattractive and tehese can be used as giulde posts to help them align to who they are in conjunction with their strategy and authority. Join me as we break down the traits, strengths, and challenges of the 2/5 double projected profile in human design.  If you want to dive deeper into human design I invite you to explroe the HD Wild Program. 

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The two five profile, the hermit heretic, or as I like to say, the introvert disruptor. You are called to change the world, nourish your gifts in the quiet of your sanctuary while listening to the calls of the universe around you'll be called in divine time to change the world, to disrupt the old ways and create a path for the new nourish Your talents, nourish your soul, nourish your being. Your time to give will come be patient. This nourishment will fuel your impact when you are called to care for the other, to universalize, to create change, to embody. Your time is coming. You are here to change the world. All right, so let's dive into the two five profile. And these are people who, it's important to understand that the two and the five of this profile are in harmony with one another. The two needs alone, time and a place that feels really good in order for them to do what they love.

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And it's really during this alone time where they're honing their innate gifts, where they're waiting to be called out by other people. And then the fifth line is here to come in and save the day when all other traditional ways of doing things have failed. The five comes in and universalizes and transforms. And it's important to understand that both of these lines exist in the projection field. So if you were a two five, understanding your strategy and authority, authority and honoring that is really important because otherwise you'll get burned at the stake. And so the fifth line here is called in to save the day and universalize. But if they say yes to the incorrect projections or they aren't really clear in their communication about what they're going to save the day on, ultimately they end up in a place where they, Ross says, burned at the stake.

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But in modern day times, this is where your reputation is going to be impacted. This is where, you know, can become an outcast potentially. And so the reality is the combination with these two is that the two is going to need that time to hone their gifts and talents, even if there is pressure from the projection field to come in and save the day. And these are people who often can and will feel unfulfilled and threatened if they answer the wrong call or they step into the projection field at the wrong time. So balance is a really important thing. And these are people with a very special energy. We can feel that the two five can help us. And ultimately that's sort of the plight of the projection field of their profile. Like others are like, Ooh, I can feel this person can help me.

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And the reality is the two five is here to do incredibly special things. They're here to transform the world with their genius to bring practicality to the other. But this comes only after they've had time in their introvert mode, in their sanctuary. And when the call for what they can save the day is correct for them based on their strategy and authority. And the reality is these are people who can, when aligned, make a very large, extraordinary and far reaching impact. They break norms. They do things in their own way. They bring hope to a world that a new dawn is possible. And the reality is they observe, they bring practicality. And that's really important for them. Two fives bring a lot of p practicality. They're passionate, they're fierce, and they're not afraid to lead when the call is correct. And the reality is these are people who are good at handling pressure.

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These people do well under pressure, and there's sort of this air of mystery around them. If you think about the two is on the first floor of the house, if we use the metaphor of the house when we are thinking about the hexagram, but the fifth line's up in the attic, it's mysterious. But people can energetically feel how any fifth line, not just the two five, but any fifth line can help them. That's why everybody always wants to kind of bask in the aura of a fifth line. And they project this onto the fifth line. And fifth lines are often never truly seen. So when this profile, the two, five steps into a room, people are magnetized to it because it can save them in times of need. And these are people who often attract a following or a loyal group of people as a result of that.

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And of course, it's important to understand these are people who are naturally withdrawn due to the fact that they're always projected on. And so they can feel really unsure of other people. Is this loyalty? Is this trust? Does this person actually see me? And that can often lead to them energetically feeling kind of uncomfortable around other people, and therefore they may stay safe and not honor their strategy and authority even though they're being called to do certain things. But that clarity in terms of what you're willing to save the day on becomes really important. And it's not uncommon for people who have this profile to actually receive more invitations if they're more withdrawn. And these are people who are deeply creative. They often excel at marketing. They handle pressure well. They can really amplify their natural gifts when they study. And the reality is they'll get many chances in life to handle the protection field.

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And so they kind of bounce from being called in the two to calling others in the five as they go about establishing this practical solution in the world. And it's really, it's quite magical. The thing is here though, the challenges of the two five is that they are part lower trigram and part upper trigram. And at times they can neglect their own needs in order to serve others. And the two doesn't necessarily need other people to fulfill their destiny while the five does. So this often creates a tension in their being, even though there is harmony in their profile. So they also live in the projection field. They also handle pressure really well. So they can get tired from handling pressure all the time. And because they live in the projection field, they may often get ridiculed or people might not actually see them for who they are.

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They see the two five for what they want from them, not for who they are. And from a very early age, this profile needs to establish boundaries and not be forced into doing things that they don't want to do. When they're forced to do things, they're often knocked out of alignment. And it can take a great deal of time for these people to get back to who they are. And as a child, the two five is often, they're often labeled. They often kind of get a reputation. You're a reputation, you have a reputation for being a blank kid, whatever that is. And it's often because they have just one day, but it kind of stays with them. It follows them around for a while. And this often that wound is often carried into adulthood, which keeps the two five out of alignment. And as a result of the fact that they are projected on by a very early age, they often grow up too fast or they're expected to be further along or they aren't really seen.

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They get a lot of responsibility put onto them. And oftentimes this leads to rebellion, the unhealthy kind in adulthood because they're expected toll and told to do something, and they really just don't feel respected or honored for who they are. And this kind of leads them to have a lot of unease in the world and can lead them to feel incredibly uncomfortable. And this often results in sort of like this hoarding that happens, this selfishness that can happen with that fifth line. And the reality is this is often a great way we can use that as a compass. So if the two, they move from this place of depletion and nourishment and back again, and the fifth line moves from this selflessness to this selfishness or this, I don't feel attractiveness to this attractiveness, we can almost use that as a compass in order to guide us as a two five.

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We can use that as a go a compass to say, oh, I might be out of alignment here. And the reality is, as a two five, these are people who are here to step in when everything else is failed. And the two five is incredibly good at handling pressure, and they're good at handling pressure. I know I've mentioned this a couple of times, but they handle pressure well because of the fact that they've been projected on their whole life. And so it's sort of this double-edged sword. It can be really a challenge, the fact that they've been projected on their whole life. But in the real world, I often see these are people who are like event planners. They are people who are under constant pressure and can manage that pressure well because of the fact that they have been dealing with it their whole lives.

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They really know how to manage it. Probably better than many of the other profiles because it's a double projection field that they live in. And you might be thinking, oh, well, the five two must be the same way. It's not. The two five really handles pressure in a way that many of the other profiles cannot. And they're here to serve others. They're here to make a big impact. But the reality is they have to make sure they're answering the right call. You're answering the right. You're honoring that strategy and authority that you have. So here are a few questions for the two five profile. Is it practical? Am I being called in when the majority is in crisis? That's really important. Do I actually want to save the day on this? Is this something that I actually want to do? Do I have a practical solution I can bring to the table? Have I been clear with what I'm willing to save the day on? Have I established clear

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Boundaries myself? Am I universally universalizing my message? Am I being respected by those closest to me? Have I spent the time I needed cultivating and nourishing my talents? Am I calling on others to create a new foundation? Am I showing up for myself and sharing my message? Am I rebelling just to rebel or am I rebelling because I found a new practical way to do things? Am I honoring my need for alone time? And that is the two five hermit heretic or introvert disruptor, as I like to say. Thanks so much for tuning in.