Welcome to another episode of HD Your Biz - Human Design For Business! In this episode, Jamie delves into the intricate details of open and undefined centers in Human Design. She discusses how these centers interact with defined centers when working with others, and the impact of energetic residue and conditioning. Jamie emphasizes the importance of looking at oscilating between the parts of the human design chart and the the whole chart rather than focusing solely on individual parts.  In this episode Jamie discusses the significance of understanding how different elements of Human Design synthesize to create a unique experience for each individual. Tune in as we explore the nuanced dynamics of Human Design and its implications for how we interact and operate in various environments.

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Primary Topic: Understanding Open and Undefined Centers

- The difference between open and undefined centers

- How working with someone with a defined center can impact energy

- The role of mirroring in open and undefined centers

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In this episode of "HD Your Biz - Human Design For Business," Jamie Palmer and the HD Wild Student, Hannah Carey discuss the interplay between defined, open, and undefined centers in human design, the parts don't exist without the whole thinking,, and how they impact interactions and conditioning. They also delve into the importance of considering the whole chart rather than making assumptions based on individual elements. Here are the key takeaways:

1. The impact of open and undefined centers on energy exchange: They explore how open and undefined centers act as mirrors and discuss the potential for energetic residue from others.

2. The significance of defined centers in shaping behavior: The hosts share their personal experiences and observations about the influence of defined centers on conditioning and behaviors in familiar settings.

3. Nuances in conditioning and identification with centers: They touch on how the presence of gates and lines in undefined centers may affect individual identification and conditioning.

4. The importance of looking at the whole chart: The conversation emphasizes the necessity of considering the entire human design chart and its interconnected elements rather than focusing on individual aspects.

5. The limitations of solely focusing on specific parts of human design: They stress the importance of not overlooking the holistic approach to human design and highlight the shortcomings of exclusive focus on individual parts of the design without recognizing their interactions in the overall framework.

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1. How does having defined or undefined centers impact the way we interact with others in a business setting?

2. What are some strategies for managing and clearing the energetic residue from interactions with others, especially in the context of business relationships?

3. How does having multiple gates in an undefined center impact personal conditioning and identification with those centers?

4. What are the potential implications of being in high expression of defined centers versus having undefined or open centers in a business environment?

5. How can human design be utilized as a tool for understanding and improving interpersonal dynamics within a business or team setting?

6. In what ways can human design help individuals navigate and overcome potential challenges related to conditioning and energy management in the workplace?

7. What are the limitations of solely focusing on individual parts of human design, like type, profile, or definition, without considering their interaction within the whole chart?

8. How can human design be effectively integrated into team dynamics and decision-making processes within a business setting?

9. What are the risks of oversimplifying the complexities of human design and its implications for business and leadership?

10. How can an understanding of human design contribute to more harmonious and effective collaboration among team members within a business context?

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In this episode of HD Your Biz podcast, host Jamie Palmer delves into the mindset and approach needed for staying focused on long-term projects in business. Drawing from personal experiences and insights, Jamie explores the challenges of sustaining enthusiasm and self-trust while working on substantial undertakings, such as writing a book or creating a curriculum. She emphasizes the importance of aligning with one's values and thinking about future impact in order to maintain commitment and progress on these projects.

Key Topics:

1. Overcoming "Glittery Object Syndrome": Discusses the tendency in business to prioritize quick wins over long-term projects and highlights the need to shift focus to endeavors that yield enduring dividends.

2. Breaking Down Projects: Encourages breaking down big projects into manageable phases, milestones, and tasks, enabling consistent progress while avoiding overwhelm.

3. Empowering Self-Trust: Emphasizes the significance of connecting with the underlying purpose of the project and trusting in the timing and impact, reinforcing the idea that the project is larger than oneself.

4. Leveraging Individual Design: Explores how understanding personal design traits and utilizing them effectively can enrich the process of completing substantial projects, including creating sacred time for focused work.

5. Embracing Identity and Milestones: Underlines the importance of aligning with the identity of the project, celebrating milestones, and incorporating the undertaking into one's core identity to sustain commitment and progress.

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00:00 Focus on long-term projects and enduring commitment.

03:44 Leverage book content for blog, SEO, social media.

09:28 Belief in self, connection to purpose, timing.

11:55 Share work snippets for feedback, give context.

15:58 Focus on important tasks, celebrate milestones achieved.

18:02 Embrace project identity to build successful habits.

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Questions to Consider with Your Own Long Term Projects

1. As a business owner, how do you stay committed to long-term projects without the instant gratification of quick wins?

2. What are the potential drawbacks of solely focusing on short-term, quick win tasks within your business, and how can you overcome this mindset?

3. How can breaking down large projects into phases and milestones help to maintain focus and progress in the long run?

4. What strategies can you employ to maintain enthusiasm and self-trust while working on large projects, especially when not receiving constant feedback from others?

5. In what ways can you leverage your personal values to fuel your commitment to long-term projects within your business?

6. How can you balance the need for immediate feedback and progress with the patience required for larger, long-term projects like writing a book or creating a new curriculum?

7. What tactics can you implement to create and maintain a habit of consistent progress on long-term projects, even when facing doubts or challenges?

8. What role does a mindset focused on the future play in sustaining motivation and commitment to large-scale business endeavors?

9. In what ways can you tap into your personal strengths and unique traits, such as the ability to focus or the drive for mastery, to propel forward with long-term projects in your business?

10. How can you integrate moments of celebration and acknowledge milestones within the journey of working on long-term projects, and what impact can this have on your commitment and progress?

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In this "Life & Biz Updates" episode of the HD Your Biz podcast, host Jamie Palmer provides a personal update and shares the challenges she faced in her business recently. She delves into the experience of having her work stolen and the impact it had on her professionally and personally. Through this difficult experience, she gained valuable insights and decided to make positive changes in her business, focusing on offering depth, nuance, and expertise.

Key Topics:

1. Ethical challenges in the online industry: Jamie discusses the ethical issues she faced when discovering that her work had been plagiarized by another individual selling it as their own content.

2. Personal growth and resilience: She shares the internal battle she went through and how the experience taught her valuable lessons about herself, trust, and protecting her business.

3. Business evolution and positive outcomes: Jamie reflects on the positive changes that emerged during this challenging time, including the decision to publish the human design gate strengths book, create licensing agreements, and align her programs with deconditioning support.

4. Future plans and offerings: She shares upcoming programs and initiatives, such as HD Your Kids, Business Design with Human Design Live, and the addition of deconditioning support in her business programs.

5. Message of gratitude and resilience: Jamie expresses gratitude to her audience, shares her appreciation for their support, and reaffirms her commitment to continue podcasting and offering impactful content to her community.

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00:00 Episode covers life update for interested audience.

04:29 Overcoming internal struggle, changing perspective, personal growth.

08:46 Creating impactful work attracts both learners and opportunists.

11:58 Adapt to change or face extinction. Ethical concerns.

13:17 Embrace compassion and expertise to build success.

16:20 Highlighting decision-making aligned with strategy and authority.

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In this episode of the HD Your Biz podcast, host Jamie Palmer discusses the concept of the emotional wave in human design. She explains that nearly 50% of the population has a defined solar plexus, which operates on an emotional wave, meaning clarity comes over time and decisions are never 100% certain. There are three types of emotional waves: the tribal wave, the individual wave, and the collective wave. Each wave has its own characteristics and ways of operating. Palmer emphasizes the importance of not resisting these waves, but rather allowing them to pass and not identifying with the emotions they bring. She also discusses the concept of emotional neutrality and how it can be achieved. She concludes by encouraging listeners to join one of the HD Wild Open Houses for more discussions on human design.

00:00 Emotional waves vary based on human design.

04:54 Physical touch can dispel tribal wave. Energy sensitive to others' needs.

09:03 Emotional energy creates waves of destruction. Surrender.

11:40 Live in the moment, embrace new cycles.

16:19 Naming and understanding emotions helps kids cope.

20:41 Understanding and navigating emotional waves effectively.

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Hello and welcome to the HD Your Biz podcast. I'm your host, Jamie Palmer, and today we are talking about the emotional wave. Okay? So nearly 50% of the population at any given time is going to have a defined solar plexus. And if you're lucky to be born in the past year or two, you more than likely will have a defined solar plexus. We'll probably actually see that number statistically speaking go up simply because there's so many outer transits that are in the solar plexus. I digress. Anyway, we have to understand that the defined solar plexus operates on an emotional wave. This means that there is no knowing in the now. Clarity comes over time. And for me, when I learned this in human design, this was one of the first pieces that I found out about in human design. This was the piece that I couldn't unsee when human design found me on Instagram and having emotional authority, having a defined solar plexus means that you're never going to have 100% certainty that any decision that you are making is correct.

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And so 80% or 70 to 80% is a yes or a no. Consequently, and the reality is most of us right at least 50%, and again, that number oscillates a little bit, but it's almost always at least 50%. Sometimes it'll be more than that. Right now, because of the fact that the 36 has been engaged for very long period of time, we're going to see a lot of emotional manifesting generators being born. I know this. I have several clients that have had babies that are emotional manifesting generators because of that 36. So we have to understand that when you have a defined solar plexus, you operate on what's an emotional wave, and there are three types of emotional waves and then the source of all emotional waves. So the emotional wave originates out of the sacral and the 59 and goes through the six and pours out into the solar plexus.

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And I hate to break it to you folks, the energy in the chart moves in a specific direction. It doesn't move whichever way we want it to. So caveat there. So that 59 6 is the literal stream of all the emotional awareness center. So if you have the 59 6, you get to experience all of the emotional waves. And that 59 6, Though it most often operates like the tribal wave, just a little bit softer edges. It can experience all emotional waves. And if you have a gate, if you have a defined solar plexus with a gate, you'll experience a wave. If you have an undefined solar plexus with a gate, you'll experience a wave. If you have any individual circuitry, you'll operate on an emotional wave because individual circuitry, even if you have it undefined solar plexus only ever here is according to where it is in its emotional wave. That's why you have to say things to folks with lots of individual circuitry. Lots of times this is because the individual, we need the individual to survive. Anyway, I digressed.

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So let's get back to this, right? So we've got the source of all waves, which is the 59 6. Then we have the tribal wave. And the tribal wave is what I would call the ratcheted up wave. It operates in three peaks. So the first peak or the first wave is a smaller wave, and then it erupts and it dissipates. And the second wave is bigger. It erupts and it dissipates. The third time it explodes and then it resets. The tribal wave operates in the 37 40 and the 1949. So if you have either one of the two of those energies, you will experience an emotional wave that is the ratcheted up wave. The thing to understand about the tribal wave, I always like to think this is the waves that build up with an incoming storm. We get a big rainstorm, the waves, as the wave starts to come closer to shore, they start to get bigger.

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And for me, we have to understand touch, physical touch can help dispel this wave. This energy here though is often telling us something about our needs. Oftentimes when we think about the tribal wave, we have to remember the energy. It's tribal. And so when we have tribal energy, we have to understand that this wave is sensitive to the needs of other people. And so oftentimes it ratchets itself up because of the fact it's sensitive to needs of other people. And it often gets frustrated often because it forget to take care of itself and make sure its own needs are met. But we have to understand that that's how this energy operates. Either way, this energy is here to be sensitive to what other people need. I have the 37 40 and the 49. And so in my agency, I remember I would end up doing stuff myself because I didn't want to cause a lot of drama with people.

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So I'd hire somebody, they were supposed to do X, they didn't do x, I would say, Hey, you need to do this. And then they wouldn't do it. And then I would be like, fine, I'll just do it myself. But internally I would be having this really, really hard time with that. And so we have to understand that one of the best things tribal, the tribal wave can do is articulate itself to say, Hey, look, you're doing this. I'm doing this. We're both contributing to the collective. You need to uphold your end of this bargain. And that's literally how this energy works. And so we have to understand here that emotional neutral can be achieved by touch. It can also be achieved by articulating itself and making sure one, its own needs are met, or two, renegotiating the bargain like you said you were going to do, acts you didn't do, acts like, let's figure this out.

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Okay, so that's the tribal wave. Then we have the individual wave. And the individual wave is the 2212 and the 39 55. So this energy one, stress eat. So when this energy is stressed, it often will use and binge eat sugar to manipulate its mood, constantly seeking out the perfect mood, but it often operates in highs and lows. This can be the most even keel of all of the emotional waves. However, I find that folks who are in the low expression of this energy tend to be dramatic, provocative. There's always drama going on, often very noisy in terms of what's going on in their world. And when they're in their high expression, they're often more even keeled because this energy operates in peaks and valleys. I always like to think about this as in its optimal expression. This is the energy of the waves of a hurricane. We don't have a whole bunch of hurricanes every single year. Or maybe you're in a place where you don't even have hurricanes where I live, we don't have that many hurricanes. There'll be one every once in a while. But this energy needs to understand that it has to be in the mood to do things because it operates in high highs and low lows.

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And we have to understand that these are people who are melancholic by design. Melancholy is with every single individual gait, and it's even more exaggerated in this 22, 12, 39, 55. So this energy one needs to be in the mood. And two, this energy will also leave a massive wake of destruction behind it when it's not in the mood. It can be choppy and turbulent and provoking dramatic events and unpredictable. And I always like to say really leaving a wake of destruction or a wake of damage behind it, I would call this emotional sloppiness. And so we have to understand that regardless of which wave we have resisting said wave will only make it worse. If you've ever been in the ocean, if you resist a wave, you'll often get pulled under longer. Versus if you surrender to the wave, you'll often be able to navigate it with more ease.

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The wave is kinder to you, if you will. And so we have to understand that this individual wave, it operates in peaks and valleys because constantly trying to search for the perfect mood. That's why people with this energy will stress eat sugar. They're trying to manipulate their mood. They're trying to get out of this place of melancholy to this one where they're in a high right? And so it's important to understand that the solar plexus is a motor and an awareness center. So all of the time when we have a motor and awareness center, this energy presents as nervousness. And these are people who when they're not in the mood, will cause a lot of drama. I mean, I'm fairly certain Mariah Carey has Gate 22, and if you think of her big diva energy, you don't want to mess with her when she's not in the mood.

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And then lastly, we have the collective wave. So the collective wave is the 41 30 and the 36 35. And I like to think of this as the a hundred foot wave or the tsunami. This has the highest highs of the human experience and the lowest lows. This is collective, but it comes out of the abstract circuitry in the chart, which is all about going through a beginning, a middle and end, and then pausing to reflect on the lessons that we learned and then entering into a new cycle from an elevated state. We have to understand that this energy though is here to be in the moment. It's not here to be worried about the future. It's not here to be worried about past. It's here to be worried about the moment, right? It's here to be in the moment. It's here to be in the experience.

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That's not to say that this energy doesn't want to fantasize and think about what the potential future might hold, however, it has to let go of those expectations and just meet the moment. So we have to understand these people experience the highest highs and the lowest lows of humanity, and they are here to really go from this place of despair and hopelessness to hope and possibility by being in the experience, by going through the beginning, the middle, the end, pausing to reflect and starting a new cycle from an elevated state. If cycles and experiences are repeating in this energy, it means that they likely abandoned ship on the cycle that they were on before. And it repeats because these are not people who are here to have the same thing repeat itself. It's constantly here to go through a cycle, integrate the lesson and start again from an elevated state.

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And so we have to understand that this wave can feel like the rug is being pulled out from underneath you often because you've placed expectations on an experience and it didn't meet those expectations. But we have to understand these people inherently and orally also can be very anxious or nervous or even appear like they have very extreme emotions in their chart. And this is because this energy experience the highest highs of the human experience and the lowest lows. And so we have to understand that when you have a defined solar plexus, you are not here to make decisions from the high of your wave or the low of your wave. You are here to make decisions from neutral, from an uncharged place almost as if you are expectation free. And for those of you who are listening that are like, yeah, that's not possible, Jane, I'm here to tell you on the other side of it that it is possible to be at an emotional neutral and have a defined solar plexus.

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One of the things for me that I've really learned in the past, I don't know, three or four years, and I've continued to have to lean in and relearn this. Anytime I say to myself, oh, I got my emotional wave figured out. I've got it mastered. I 100% get swept away from it. And I laugh at myself with it because the reality is it is several things. We live in a society where we are supposed to be happy all the time. I'm happy, right? You're supposed to be happy. There's something wrong with you if you're not. So I'm hashtag unsubscribing from that. Two, we are not our emotions and we really need to learn to stop identifying with the emotions that we have in our body. I'm sad, I'm happy, I'm melancholic, I'm angry, I'm bitter, I'm whatever. Pick a word. We aren't any one of those things.

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It hasn't necessarily yet become our identity. And the reality is it can over time, we can become a bitter person. We can become a melancholic person. That is because we attach to the emotion and it got stored in our body, and now it's part of who we are. But the reality is most of us are not there yet. And I mean, I've had periods of time where I have been bitter. It was a characteristic of my personality, particularly in my agency days. But I have since realized that we as a society have failed ourselves and that we attach to the emotions. And then if anybody's ever read, the body keeps a score, the emotions get stuck in the body and they get stuck in the fascia. They cause all sorts of sickness and disease. We identify with them. It's a whole plethora of problems. But the reality is if we are really aware and can name our emotions, we realize that emotions are fleeting.

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They come and they go like the ebb and the flow of the tide and emotions will come, and emotions will go. And if we have the ability to be able to name more of set emotions from a very early age, I have two boys, two sons, and I don't know whoever told me this, but they said, somebody told me when I had my first son, they're like, teach that kid as many emotional names for emotions as you can. And in some ways it's been the best thing I've ever done for my children, even if I don't always jokingly, jokingly, even though it jokingly can make me crazy at times. For example, my youngest son who's now seven, will come in and be like, I'm so depressed. Or he'll be like, I feel so complicated, or my oldest will be able to say, I'm so anxious, or I'm so this.

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And the reality is they can name their emotions, they can describe to me the emotions that they're feeling in their bodies. And the more names that we have for the emotions that we feel in the body, the easier it is for us to be able to witness them and observe them without attaching to them, without them becoming part of us. Because once we attach to them, they're trying to become part of our being, right? They're trying to become part of our identity. And the reality is no emotion. Emotions aren't here to stay forever, right? I'm not happy. I'm experiencing happiness. I'm not sad. I'm experiencing sadness. And this is true regardless of definition in your solar plexus. I truly believe that if we have more words for our emotions, it's easier for us to just witness them, observe them, and then allow them to pass.

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And so for me, in recent years, understanding that getting too emotional neutral is not about fighting the emotions that I'm feeling. It's not about stuffing those emotions down. It's not about resisting them or identifying with them or walking around with a chip on my shoulder or carrying them. It's about allowing them to pass, right? It's not about pushing through, right? It's about allowing and receiving and honoring that which I am feeling in the moment, right? It's like, okay, I'm experiencing sadness. So if I'm experiencing sadness, I'm not going to force myself to try to show up in all these ways, or I'm not going to try to push through, right? Because sadness is going to come and go. Melancholy is going to come and go. Joy is going to come and glow. And so the sooner that we can make that shift, the easier it is to find that emotional neutral, particularly in the day to day of our lives. And I have found nowadays, it's not that I don't have an emotional wave. I 100% do.

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I had a business thing that came up over the weekend that I had to get a lawyer involved with and all this other stuff. And my old self would have just basically been derailed for days emotionally because of this and my new self. I'm just like, okay, I'm going to name that I'm upset. I'm going to give myself a half hour to be angry and frustrated and just honor that emotion and then move forward and let it go. Because ultimately, I don't want other people to drive the emotional bus of my life. And subsequently, I also don't want my emotions to leave an emotional wake behind me with my family, my clients, my whatever. And I call that emotional sloppiness. And oftentimes when we are in an emotional wave, it's hard to look and see the wake that we might be leaving behind so busy and focused in the wave.

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And so for me, learning to move through the wave with more speed by allowing it and not resisting it has made a massive difference in my ability to be able to, one, get to an emotional neutral, but two, just understanding how my wave wants to operate. And so I hope for you that this is one helpful to better understand the emotional wave. And two, that if you are defined, it gives you a better understanding of yourself. And if you aren't defined, it gives you a better understanding of your defined counterparts. And yeah, thank you for tuning in. And if you like this information, I encourage you to join one of the HD Wild Open Houses. This is a sample experience of the conversations that we are having and the teaching that I am doing inside the HD Wild program. So thank you so much for tuning in, and we'll talk to you Allall soon. Have an excellent day.

In this episode of the HD Biz Podcast, Jamie Palmer discusses the concept of the projection field in human design. She explains that the projection field in human design is often misunderstood and delves into its mechanics, particularly how it operates in a second line versus a fifth line. Palmer explains that the six lines in human design make up the 12 profiles, each with its own unique characteristics and roles. She emphasizes that second lines should only answer projections from those in their inner circle, as answering projections from outsiders can lead to depletion. For fifth lines, Palmer explains that they are often not seen for who they truly are, but rather for how they can benefit others. She advises fifth lines to be willing to put their reputation on the line for what they believe in. Palmer concludes by inviting listeners to join her in a six-hour audio course where she dives deeper into these concepts.

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06:17 Trusted second line answers inner circle projections.

09:52 Understanding 2nd Line Projection in Human Design fdynamics: depletion and nourishment.

13:18 I Ching, Chinese medicine influence on human design.

17:21 Maintain authenticity and boundaries for peace.

19:02 Understanding the 5th line Projection Field in Human Design

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Hello and welcome to the HD Biz Podcast. Today we are talking about the projection field. So one of the things that I think is commonly misunderstood in human design is really how the mechanics of the projection field work. What is it? What does it mean? How does it operate in a second line versus a fifth line? How is it impacting you as the person projecting on somebody else? And so today I'm going to really dive into those mechanics. But before I dive in, I just want to explain that when we talk about the lines in human design, and there are six lines that make up the hexagram. They go one through six. The six lines make up the 12 profiles. And oftentimes you probably heard the metaphor, or maybe you haven't, but we talk about this in the HD Wild program that the first line is the foundation.

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The second line is the first floor or the window on the first floor of the house. The third line is the stairs between the first floor and the second floor. The fourth line is the foundation of the second floor. The fifth line is the window on the second floor or the attic window, and then the sixth line is the roof. That's where the saying being on the roof comes from the sixth line. And so we have to understand that that first line is here to establish a foundation. The two shows us what's possible with that foundation. The three experiments with it and pokes holes in it. The fourth line externalizes it and the fifth line goes and disrupts it and says, Hey, this isn't going to work for everybody. Here's how we can do it better. And then the sixth line says, you know what?

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I think there has to be something more here. There's an objective way to do this. Let me be of counsel. Let me test my other word lead in the sixth line. But we have to understand that it goes 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and then the cycle starts again and the lines are harmonious. The first and the fourth line have foundational themes. The second and the fifth line are both projected. They're showing possibilities. The third and the sixth are testing, experimenting. Well, the sixth line doesn't really experiment, but it's like showing us there's more here. And so they share themes. And when I teach profiles, we spend 12 weeks on profiles. So we spend an entire semester going through the profiles. And the reality is what I'm going to teach and talk about today is really going to distill this down. But one of my students asked me the other day, what's the difference between the second Line projection field and the fifth line projection field?

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So I'm going to explain that and I'm also going to explain how it might be impacting you if you are not a second or a fifth line. If you are sitting there and you're projecting on somebody, vice versa if you are somebody that's being projected on. So we have to understand that that second line sits on the first floor of the house and we can see into the house, we can see into the first floor of a house. Whereas that second floor window, we can't really see that. And I always think of Beetlejuice comes to mind, it's going to date my age, but I used to watch that show as a kid, and the two main characters in Beetlejuice would sit in the second floor window and the teenage daughter would look and be like, I see people up there. And there was an air of mystery about it.

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And that's really how the fifth line projection field operates. So we have to understand that the profiles impacted by this are the 2 4, 2 5, 5 2 6 2 for the second line. And then for the fifth line, it's the two five, the three five, the five one, and the five two. I'm not going to get into the difference of say a two five versus a five two today. That is not what the intention of this is. I'm just going to explain how the projection field works. So we have to understand that if you live in the projection field in general, you are not seen necessarily for the whole of who you are. You are seen for how you can benefit the other person. And so oftentimes we have to understand, particularly with a projected line like the two or the five, these are people who are have or have an air of uncertainty around other people, almost inherently, right?

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Second line children are often told, oh, you're so talented at this. Go do this thing. And it ultimately doesn't end up working out for them. I always like to think of my two four son and one year we had him play soccer, and I'm like, you're so good at soccer, you should play at soccer. And in hindsight, it was me projecting on him. And the funny thing is that most of the season he convinced his coach just to sit on the sidelines because he wasn't actually interested in playing soccer. He just wanted to chill. That was not what he wanted to do. And we have to understand that when it comes to that second line projection. Second lines have to actually answer projections that help them feel nourished. So themes that I like to use for this are what helps you feel nourished versus what helps you feel depleted.

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And we have to understand that that second line, When they get projected on or recognized for something that they are naturally talented about, they want to make sure that they're answering that projection or that call from somebody in their inner circle, from somebody that's a friend, somebody that they've let into their world. If you're in a second lines world, that means that you are trusted. And the second line in general is only ever here to answer projections from those in its inner circle. And when it answers projections from those who are outside of its inner circle, it will often feel depleted because we have to remember the second line is not here to necessarily explain their process. They are here to simply show up, allow us to witness them, and as a result, we are transformed. And so when we think about this dichotomy, and I'm sure the second lines that are listening in their headphones are like, oh my God, I would guarantee that they can think of a time when they answered a projection from somebody else.

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Because what happens is I always like to imagine every second line has this almost force bubble around them or they live in this snow globe. The environment is super important for a second line. And what happens is, is that somebody will come in and they'll look at that second line and like, oh my goodness, you're so talented at X. And mind you, the second line's like, okay, they're never really ever sure that they're actually talented or know the things that they know. They can't often explain how they know the things that they know. And ultimately the second line's democratic, it's happy to just introvert away in its own little bubble. And so when a second line gets projected on by somebody who isn't in that inner circle of theirs who isn't a trusted advisor, essentially, oftentimes they'll become incredibly depleted by said projection because the projections more about the other person and how that second line can help that person.

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Then what the second line is actually interested in doing, and second lines, they will nurture and cultivate their talents. They will develop those things that they are naturally talented at, but they have to choose to do it because second lines aren't necessarily motivated in the traditional sense of the word. And ultimately what happens, they become incredibly depleted and then they don't necessarily feel safe to step out into that projection field when they've answered the wrong projections. And so that is one of the key things to understand for those second lines. They're not here to answer every projection. So strategy and authority obviously become very important here. And who's actually giving me this projection? Who's projecting on me and what are they projecting that I am good at? And I always like to think about this is when a second line gets projected on, especially by say a stranger or someone who isn't in their trusted circle, it's almost like their snow globe gets shaken.

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Their whole world can get rattled, especially once they've answered the wrong projection. And so understanding this dynamic, I have found to be incredibly helpful for those who are second lines. And we have to understand even when a second line answers the correct projection at the beginning, when they step out into that projection field, they may feel the start a little bit depleted, but then as soon as they feel a little bit depleted, there should be this valley of depletion. And then ultimately there should be nourishment that comes from it. But we have to remember neither of there are exceptions to this. So caveat, caveat, caveat, but for the most part, projected profiles, particularly second lines, are not here to stay out in the projection field for extended periods of time. When we force a second line to stay on, they'll have this valley of depletion and then they'll become incredibly nourished.

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And then what will happen is they'll have this peak level of nourishment and then it'll start to dip again to go to this place of depletion. And ultimately they go into their hermiting mode or their introvert mode before it starts to deplete again. And then they go, they do their own thing. They cultivate, cultivate, cultivate their talents. They just mine their own stuff, mine their own way of doing things. And then another projection will come along later on. And so that's how the second line projection field operates. And we have to remember if we are projecting on a second line, it's often because we see that they can help us in some way. They can render us better off in some way. And so projections for the second line are about how the talent that they have and how it can help me. Now, that's not necessarily a bad thing for the other, but we have to understand that if that second line says no, particularly if we're not a second line and we're projecting on a second line that it's not personal, it's that it will literally deplete their life force energy when they answer the wrong projections.

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So it's important just to keep that in mind when you think about that dynamic that is playing out. Because I see so many second lines, especially in the online space, they're tending to jump from thing to thing to thing, and they're constantly in this state of depletion. And the reality is second lines aren't really here to be on and be with the people all the time. They're here to come out. I feel like if I had to think of what is the ideal career for a second line, it's like speaking, go out, speak, write a book, go out and speak, and Oprah's a good example of a two four generator. So she's projected profile, and you think about her show, she would go out, do her thing on stage, and then go back and fill up her nourishment tank again. And so that's how that second line projection field operates. Now let's talk about the fifth line projection field. So the fifth projection field is a bit trickier to navigate. And in traditional human design, this is the heretic, right?

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And that isn't a great name, so I like to call it the disruptor. But we have to remember through the hexagram that so much of what human design is based upon comes from the itching and traditional Chinese medicine and all of these eastern modalities that have been around for a long period of time through the lens of the hexagram. The fifth line was known as the general. And the general in ancient times came in when the king or the queen lost control of the city and they were here to restore order to chaos. And so when we think about this fifth line, this disruptor, I think it's important to understand that for fifth lines, we have to understand that most people never really see a fifth line for who they are. You'll see a second line for who they are, but you'll also see what they can do for you.

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You can see the possibilities of things that they can benefit for you. When it comes to the fifth line, we have to understand that the fifth line is the highest universalizing power that a human can be. It's orally and energetically. The fifth line is the highest aura that a human can be, right? The sixth line is superhuman. It's beyond human. And we have to remember the fact that one, we don't see fifth lines for who they are on that second story, there's this air of mystery and we're like, there you are up there selfishly hoarding all this information. And I can see my potential in you. I can see all of this goodness, and ultimately you are not letting me have it right? I always like to use the example. I'm a three five. I always like to use the example. There's so many people that are just like, oh, I just want to sit and hang out with you.

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I love being in your aura. That happens a lot to me locally here. And I always like to say people love to bask in the aura of a fifth line because it helps them feel good about themselves at first, but eventually a second projection comes along. And for most fifth lines, second and third projections don't always tend to be so positive, especially if they've answered the wrong projection, but even more so in a five one, A five one, their first projection is almost always positive, even when they follow their strategy and authority or not. The second projection for five ones is almost never positive, regardless. Regardless if they follow their strategy and authority. A great example of this is Taylor Swift, right? There was a period of time where everybody loved her when she first became popular with shake it off, and then immediately after that everybody hated her, right?

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Positive first projection, negative second projection. So we have to understand certain profiles, and I'm not going to get into this in this today. I am going to be doing a line experience workshop, audio experience in the near future that if you want to dive more into that, you can check that out. The thing to remember is though that fifth lines we're not here to be on all the time. And so we also have to understand that for fifth lines, because we're not ever necessarily seen for who we are When we get projected and on and we've repeated it ourselves multiple times and we aren't seen, it can often make us feel like crazy people. And I've had this happen to me in my business where I've hired somebody and I've said, here's my expectations. Here's the contract, here's all the written stuff are dotted T's are crossed, everything, everything.

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And then the person will come in and then they'll just be like this runaway train of whatever it is that they want to do. And I'm like, look, man, that's not what we agreed upon. And they're like, yeah, well, and that's their projection on me. I mean, I've even had people, I recently had a review on Amazon that came in that projected on me that I was a man and the whole review was about through the lens of me basically being a man. And the reality is we have to remember fifth lines don't get seen for who they are, which is why you often hear the term burnt at the stake when it comes to fifth lines. And the burning at the stake is because this is a person who is going to disrupt the way that things have always been done. They see things differently.

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They are here to come in when every other way of doing things has failed and to show us a new way. And so I always say for fifth lines, who get projected upon, we really have to be willing to be burned at the stake. But more so I think of this as identifying with the work of who we are. It has to be part of our being. It has to be part of our identity, the things that we are willing to get burned at the stake for or a fall from grace for. Because oftentimes what happens is people project on a fifth line that they're going to be able to come in and they're going to be able to save the day. And I mean, this happened to me in my agency a lot where people would hire me almost as a last ditch effort to try to save their company with social media.

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And the reality is social media doesn't necessarily do the selling. It's your sales page. And so people would come in and they would have this expectation that I'd be able to get these immediate results. And even if I would say it over and over again in my contract and the onboarding and the sales call and all these places, ultimately people would end up angry. There was this one woman in particular who just so much projection in hindsight. And the reality is that's also part of the plight of the fifth line. Essentially, we have to be willing to put our reputation online or on the line for the thing that we are stepping out into the projection field for. And fundamentally, that is challenging because it feels good when somebody's like, oh, can you come save the day for me on this? I have a client, she's a launch strategist, and she did this wonderful launch for a client.

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I think she's a three five projector, and she did this wonderful launch for this client. They had a pretty successful launch, and part of that launch strategy was using this whole clickup system and the client projected on her, oh, you're so good at, you're a clickup expert. Can you come help me set up this whole clickup system in my business for all these things? And I don't think it was a proper invitation. She was a projector. So caveat there, but the reality is this person projected on her that she can save the day with this lady's systems. And ultimately the entire thing fell apart because of the fact that that was not something she was willing to be burnt at the stake for. It wasn't something she identified with. And I remember her speaking about this when this all happened, and she was like, well, I guess I'm a clickup expert now.

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And I'm like, are you sure? And I think that projector self of her ultimately pulled her into it. It felt good to get that recognition, but it was not true recognition. And I always think that's a good example of how to understand part of how that projection field works. And so we have to understand that most people are projecting their highest possibility onto the fifth line. That is why the fifth line has to identify with the thing that they are doing. They have to almost over communicate and say again and again, I'm here to save the day on X. I'm here to help with this. I'm here to disrupt this, but none of these other things are my things to do. And the reality is that fifth line, you have to understand that most fifth lines don't feel attractive, and their themes are like, I move from this place of almost selfish.

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I'm hoarding my information. I don't feel safe to be seen to selfless, to I selfless or generous to attractive, and a fifth line for them to truly step out in that projection field and answer the correct projections. It's really about feeling attractive and being able to almost, for lack of a better word, I mean the bonding strategy for a fifth line is seduction. We have to understand they're here to seduce people. This disruptive way is the new way to do things. This is the way to take what's not working and do it in a better way. And so we also have to keep in mind that every fifth line ought to optimally have a sixth line who can help them repair their reputation when they get burnt at the state, because it's not a matter of if it will happen. And we have to understand that fifth lines really do make other people feel really good because in the aura of a fifth line, they can feel and see one's own highest potential because that fifth line is the highest universalizing power that a human can be for those who are six lines, right?

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Or if you have a six line friend, six lines are almost like superhuman. Yet the six line doesn't really understand what the fuss is all about. They don't always necessarily feel comfortable in their own skin. We'll talk about more about that in that six line and the line experience audio class, but we have to understand that six lines are also here to be of counsel. They're highly trusted folks. So a fifth line when they have a negative projection can call in a six line to help them repair their reputation. Conversely, can also, six lines can also sway people against them. So make sure it's somebody that you trust. The thing that we have to understand regardless, whether it's a second line or a fifth line, is that the projection field is a challenging place to navigate because there is this inherent, it's not distrust. That's not the right word.

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That's too strong. I would say. There is this inherent une in oneself when it comes to the projection field for second lines. I think it's because they're like, am I actually good at this? Do I actually know how to do this? I can't explain how I know how to do this, but I do know how to do it. And then for fifth lines, it's like, I want to say yes to this. This is correct for me, for my strategy and authority. And does this person actually hear the words that I'm saying even though I have repeated them in 10 different ways? And so we have to understand that for those of us who might project on a second line or a fifth line, we can't take it personal when they may not reciprocate that. And ultimately, I'm not suggesting people be anything other than the whole of who they are.

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And we have to understand that if someone is saying no to you, that you've projected on, because that's what's going to happen orally. That's just how this energy works. It's not good or bad, it just is. But we have to understand there's often a reason behind that, and it's not necessarily personal to those who are on the no receiving end. And the reality is, if you are one of these projected lines, it's also important to understand that projections aren't necessarily personal, right? We live in a world where orally, this is how things operate. And so we have to understand, as soon as I came to terms with the fact that I was a three five, that most people are never going to see me, I'm going to have to repeat myself again and again and again, and I'm going to have to be really clear and strong in my boundaries and what I am and am not willing to disrupt.

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Once I got clear on that, when I got clear on what I was willing to risk my reputation for what I was willing to step out into the projection field for life got a whole heck of a lot easier because I could say no to so many of these projections that I know didn't suit me right? Like, nope, not willing to get burned at the stake for that thing, not going to do it. And so we have to understand that this is just an energy dynamic or an energy exchange that happens as part of our human experience. So that this projection field talk was helpful to you. I hope that it gave you a bit deeper understanding of how these energy dynamics play out. And if you feel called to dive deeper, I invite you to the line experience. This is going to be a six hour audio course.

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It's going to start at $37 for the beta enrollment, and beta enrollment is going to happen from now through the end of April, and then May 1st, the price will go up to $67, but this is a six hour line experience where I dive deep and spend at least an hour, probably an hour to an hour and a half on each one of the lines, talking about the themes and the bonding strategy and the compass or the North Star that one can use to navigate their lines within the context of their profile. So if you feel called to join me for that, I'll make sure I put the link in the show notes. If you have any other questions, don't hesitate to reach out. I appreciate you listening to the HD Biz Podcast. If you like this content, please do leave a review. This lets me know that you enjoy this content. So thank you so much for tuning in, and I hope you have a fantastic day.

In this HD Your Biz podcast episode, host Jamie Palmer discusses her unique approach to human design (HD). She emphasizes the importance of looking at the whole chart and remembering that the parts in human design don't exist without the whole. Jamie discusses the challenges in the HD Industry with most by design offers that focus on type and profile, which she believes misses the depth and nuance of human design. 

Jamie shares her journey of discovering human design and how it helped her in her business and personal life. She believes in the power of integrating human design into existing expertise to create a unique category in one's industry. She also values practicing what one preaches, focusing on one course until successful, and investing in high-quality resources and programs that can be loved for life and each time you come back to it creates an new aha or revelations and sparks joy, understanding and flow. 

Timestamps: 

00:00 Can't Unsee Human Design

06:01 Using human design to align business strategies.

07:35 Create business and life at intersection of design, desires, lifestyle.

11:10 Recognizing patterns in human design across industries.

16:16 Howard Gardener 5 Minds For The Future: My superpowers creative and synthesizing minds

18:52 Human design synthesis reveals marketplace behavior patterns.

21:49 Understanding the whole self and seeking mastery.

27:29 Use HD as tool to revolutionize businesses.

29:32 Opportunities in certification, books, TV shows, values.

31:49 Focus on Regenerative & Sustainable Business & Master over time

35:07 HD Wild Program offering human design education and support. HD Wild Open House Replay

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Jamie Palmer [00:00:02]: Hello. Hello. Hello, and welcome to the HD Your Biz podcast. I am your host, Jamie Palmer. And, today, I am really excited to dive into my approach to human design. This is not something that I've necessarily talked about a lot publicly. I very openly share it inside necessarily a place where I've I've spent a lot of time talking about it online. And the time just feels right to really speak to my approach to human design and why my approach is different.

Jamie Palmer [00:00:57]: And the reality is there's not a lot, if any, other people to my knowledge that are looking at human design with the rigor and the logic and the patterns and the practical application. And so let's dive into this because I think this is kind of, like, an interesting thing to talk about. So first of all, for those of you who don't know, if you're new to the show or you've been around for a minute, I have been in business for myself since I was 20. My business started as a website design firm. I was doing WordPress websites before they were cool. And then in the emergence of social media, I added in done for you social media, and then I transitioned fully into the online space from mostly local, and did a lot of, you know, funnels and website design and and all that sort of stuff and and agency work, and I grew the company. And, I've been supporting entrepreneurs for almost 21 years in some form or another. And I stumbled upon human design or human design found me, on Instagram of all places in 2019, and I was at a place in 2019 where I was just kinda going through the motions of life.

Jamie Palmer [00:02:22]: At that time, I had been running the business for probably about 6 years ago now, so 14 or 15 years. And, I was really unhappy, and I was I knew that I really didn't wanna continue that work, but I didn't really know what was next. And I was doing a group coaching program, business ecosystem builders, and I had been doing that for a while, and I was enjoying that. But I still had the agency, and I had people that I was responsible for in the agency. So I had this, like, coaching, you know, elearning part of my business, and then I had this agency part of my business. And I honestly felt like there I was always, like, wasn't doing anything well. Like, I wasn't momming well. I wasn't doing my agency well.

Jamie Palmer [00:03:19]: I wasn't doing my, coaching stuff well. And the reality is I felt, like, really fractured and splintered and really divided because, like, I was always constantly being pulled in all of these directions. And I stumbled upon ins human design on Instagram, and it was this post about emotional authority and that those with emotional authority will only ever have 80% certainty that the thing that they are making a decision on is correct for them. And I was like, wonder what this human design thing is. And sure enough, I, you know, looked up my design, and I'm a 3 5 triple split emotional authority projector. And sure enough, there it was right there in front of me. I was like, I've had 80% knowing for the better part of the year that I don't wanna keep doing my agency. And that was, like, such a light bulb moment for me.

Jamie Palmer [00:04:28]: And I was like, how could this tool that doesn't know me at all actually, like, be able to know that that's the thing that I've been struggling with? So I couldn't unsee what I saw, and I just started to dig in. I took training programs. I hired a mentor. I bought all the books and all the things and all the source material and all the stuff, and I just dove in. And as time went on, I phased out of my my agency, and I continued to do coaching in my business ecosystem builders program, which is now a lot of the the business strategic foundation that I've woven with human design in in my business today. And the reality is as I started to leverage human design for myself, with my children, with my husband, with my clients, I I didn't come from a background of astrology or really anything that is, air quotes, very woo. Like, I didn't come from this place of really, like, I was very, like, logical. Right? I had come from this background of, like, being in business, helping entrepreneurs with their website and their social media for decades.

Jamie Palmer [00:06:01]: And so when I when I came to human design, I started to just look for parts of the chart where I would notice that clients were struggling, or I would say, like, okay. I have a client here that's struggling with attracting their ideal client. Where in the chart could we leverage that to better help them bring people to them? You know, same thing for, like, offers. I was like, that was one of the first things I really dove into was offers and business models. I had several clients at the time that were and this is, like, a lot of the work that I was doing at the time in the business ecosystem builders program and with my 1 on 1 clients was to help them go from 1 to 1 coaching, right, or their one to one expertise to a leverage model, a one to many model. And so I started looking at patterns that I would see across charts, or I would start to look at, you know, okay. If this is the problem that the client is struggling with, where in the chart can we leverage to solve for that problem, or how could we restructure things based on someone's chart to make that work in a more congruent for them way? And the reality is I don't believe that we can actually fit our human design into our businesses. I believe we have to structure the entirety of of our business around our design.

Jamie Palmer [00:07:35]: And I always say, like, the business that the business and life you love is at the intersection of your design, your desires, and the lifestyle that you want. And I think a lot of times when people say, go look at your conscious mastery to see how you communicate, or go look at x to see what kinda offers you do, I think it's kinda twofold there. I think we miss the point of human design in terms of the fact that the parts don't exist without the whole. But I think more importantly, we are still in sort of that old paradigm or that old belief where we're trying to shrink ourselves and our design to to contort to whatever, you know, business box we've created for ourselves. And and I'm not suggesting that you need to, like, burn in the entirety of your business down and and restart. Like, there's a lot of ways in with which I work with students where we transition and we pivot and we start to, like, make changes slowly over time, to create, like, that regenerative, sustainable business that is built around someone's design. But the reality is I didn't come from this thinking of, like, you had to use this to articulate that, and so I just constantly tried to solve in the very beginning, I was just trying to solve for the the the problem that the clients are were having. Then I I started doing this, business design with human design workshop, which has now become the business design with human design course, and I was, like, looking for patterns.

Jamie Palmer [00:09:20]: Right? And I started to synthesize together these patterns of where, like, certain things I would notice if somebody had, you know, a certain type or a profile or a certain set of circuitry or a certain set of perspective. Like, it would work better for certain business models than others. And I just kept kind of following the data. Right? And and as I got more and more and more charts, I was able to synthesize and see more and more and more patterns across all of these things. As always, I just wanna name because I'm the caveat queen here. You know, just because it works for one person doesn't mean it's gonna work for another. Right? Like, strategy and authority is a big thing that I talk about over and over and over again. Like, I can make recommendations for you where I see patterns, where I see things that might pop up.

Jamie Palmer [00:10:19]: But the reality is you, at the end of the day, are the one who has the desires. You are the one who has to live it out. You are the one who is working towards x sort of lifestyle. And so I really like to kinda give people options of, like, here's what I see works best based on all of these different factors. And the reality is, I think, you know, that approach has served me well in my HD Urbiz program and my BDHT program. It served me well in HD wild. You know, we because I've trained over 60 people now in HD wild in sort of my approach to human design. You know, we've started as a collective, as a group to see patterns across things, and, you know, this is not medical advice.

Jamie Palmer [00:11:10]: I am not a medical professional, but we collectively, as a group, have started to see, you know, trends in things, like folks with the 41 30 who are diagnosed bipolar, folks with gate 9 who are diagnosed ADD, ADHD. We're starting to see all these themes and patterns emerge across all of these different industries. Right? And I think that for me is really where I've kind of looked at human design with this different lens of, like, the parts don't exist without the whole. Where are we seeing patterns across all of these things? My husband calls this palmering because I've been doing this for, like my approach to thinking like this has has kind of just been how my brain works. I am constantly sort of focusing in on the parts and the details and that 1,000 foot view, and then I'm constantly kind of, you know, zooming out and looking at that 30,000 foot foot human. And I'm, like, always kind of oscillating between those two things, and I really think that there are not to my knowledge, I don't think anybody else is really looking at HD in this way. And, you know, I think a problem in the industry, the human design industry as a whole, is that so many people are only looking to type in profile. And I really think that that's, like, a a problem in the current market.

Jamie Palmer [00:12:42]: And I think, you know, for me, the beauty of human design is that there is all this depth there. There is all this nuance. There is all this stuff underneath the iceberg of type and profile that we can look at and we can dig into and we can use to better understand people. But the reality is it takes time to learn that. Right? It takes time to master that. It takes time to integrate it, embody it. And, you know, there's a lot of people who see, you know, human design is growing in popularity. So let me jump on that bag bandwagon, and let me, like, make money on this thing while I can.

Jamie Palmer [00:13:18]: And that's true for every industry. It's not just exclusive to to human design, but I think part of the problem is so many people just focus on type and profile. And I think when we only focus on type and profile or type profile and authority, right, strategy and authority, we kinda miss the whole point and beauty and nuance and depth of human design. Like, if you're only gonna look at type and profile, go take a strength finder test. Go take a DISC. Go take an Enneagram. Go take a whatever because you're missing so much nuance there. And, you know, we see so many blank by design offers in the space that are popping up, and I really think that the blank by design approach, especially when we only look at type and profile, misses all the beauty and depth and validation and understanding of what HD actually is.

Jamie Palmer [00:14:16]: And for me, personally, you know, I am really committed to setting the standard of what it means to be HD informed. And, you know, that's this is this is part of the reason why, you know, I'm on a mission to help people better understand all the depth that's available. And the reality is we can't just know human design. We can't just learn about. We can't just educate ourselves. We have to take that knowledge, and we have to integrate it into our body. And we have to actually embody it, and we have to practice what we preach, and we have to actually take it to the next level. We have to take it from this very, like, up in the air knowing to this in the body experience.

Jamie Palmer [00:15:07]: And I think a lot of people are in that knowing phase, and they don't actually leverage and harness and and integrate HD. And, you know, this is why we have so many I I have so I get so many messages from other people who are in the HD space or the HD in business space that come to me, and they're like, they're struggling. Right? They're struggling because they're they're trying to fit their design into existing business model. They're trying to do the way the things the way that they should or the way that the industry tells them that they should do it. And the reality is, you know, we can't just only look at type and profile. It misses kinda like I said, it misses the mark of of that depth that's available there. And I think, you know, one of my favorite books is Howard Gardner's 5 Minds for the Future. And part of the reason why I like that book is it really talks about how the different minds that we need to be successful, as we move forward into the future.

Jamie Palmer [00:16:16]: And the 5 minds that are that he talks about in that book are the ethical mind, the respectful mind, the disciplined mind, the creative mind, and the synthesizing mind. And I would say that my superpowers are the creative mind and the synthesizing mind. I am someone who, if I don't get my creative and synthesizing time, I feel incredibly frustrated. And the reality is my synthesizing and my creative time allows me that ability to really oscillate between that 30,000 foot view and that 1,000 foot human, and it gives me this sort of innate ability to notice and observe all these things that are coming up across all these different parts of the chart, and it really and I've always been able to do this, like spotting trends and noticing patterns and naming things that might come up and, you know, noticing what's what's missing out in the marketplace. And and, you know, that that's these are all parts of my design as well. And for those who know HD, you know, you're hearing my perspective. You're hearing my 17, 62, 16. You're hearing my gate my 5 gate 9 placements.

Jamie Palmer [00:17:34]: Like, all of that stuff is all part of my design. But the reality is when I make a synthesis, when I weave together information, when I use my creativity to, you know, make a visual or make human design more practical, it's coming from this place where it's been tried and tested and experimented with it. And I don't think, to my knowledge, that there's been very many people approaching HD with this rigor. You know? I have my ideal client workshop that I've run, and I think there's been 3 or 400 students at this point that have gone through that program. And the synthesis that I have in that program comes from the fact that, statistically speaking, I have this massive anomaly in my business of undefined and undefined throats. Now there's a few caveats to that. Right? Like, I get a lot of other projectors who may have a defined Ajna in throat. But when we looked at the data, right, 73% of the population has a defined throat.

Jamie Palmer [00:18:52]: Well, in my group, it's backwards. Right? Almost 70% of the the people in my programs have had an undefined throat or an in my in the beta run of HD Urbiz and HDWild, we had 90% of the people in HD Urbiz beta, and we had 67 folks in that program, and we had 13 in the HD Wild beta program. 90% of those people had And that's just crazy because it's almost a 47, 53 split when we think about the the marketplace, the population. Right? And so I come from human design synthesis and patterns. And when I say the things that I say and I share the things that I share and I talk about the things that I talk about, it comes from this place of, like, a pattern that I've spotted, and then I've experimented with said pattern, and I have the data to back it up. And the reality is I'm constantly forever looking for and observing these patterns, and then I go and I'll actually test it because I think sometimes we can be conditioned to behave in a certain way or, you know, whatever. But but when I think about, like, the ideal client design with human design synthesis or the work I do in in any of my programs, really, it's coming from this place of that there's a a pattern here. There's this there's something here that we can work with.

Jamie Palmer [00:20:27]: Right? I worked with a client couple of years ago to do some work with her in her content creation or done for you, course creation agency. And I helped her create this manual, and she was really struggling with getting clients to record the class, or the course that her her and her team had made it made. And we made this manual, and we we basically created she did a lot of the work in terms of creating the systems in her business, but I created the manual that was all designed around how can we actually get people to finish by design. Like, what do we have to look for in charts? And then we develop systems to support that finishing? And the reality is she never publicly said, oh, I'm gonna coach you by design to finish your course. In fact, she she doesn't really even do that. She just says she uses this as a tool and asks people to pull their charts and send them over to her. And then her and her team very, like, nicely support people by design for type and profile and circuitry and a couple of other things that we we synthesis together that kept coming up as a problem. And the reality is I I think this is not the typical approach that people take in the HD space.

Jamie Palmer [00:21:49]: And for me, I am always thinking and and remembering that the parts also don't exist without the whole. We are whole human beings. And I think when we try to rip apart the chart and we can take it apart and we can study it, But I think when we're constantly just always looking to one part of the chart to solve all of our problems or to give us an answer, you know, we miss that beauty that comes with human design. To me, it's like a yes. That piece of that chart could be impacting the rest of the chart, and that piece doesn't exist without all of that stuff. So why is that coming up? Like, where can we look in the chart? Where else can we look in the chart to figure that out? I think one of the other things that I don't necessarily talk about too too much that is also important to me is mastery. I am a huge fan of mastery over time. Right? And mastery comes when we we not only know and we educate ourselves, but we integrate, ourselves, but we integrate, we embody, we experiment, we get into action.

Jamie Palmer [00:23:02]: We work with people. We get our hands dirty. We get into the field of life, and we, you know, get into it with people. Right? And we we we start to be able to witness and observe and hear and feel in our bodies our designs, and we can help people in their get back into their bodies. And the reality is mastery doesn't happen overnight. It happens over time. It ebbs and it flows, and it comes in peaks and valleys and plateaus, and it comes in, you know, consistent micro steps that happen day in and day out. It comes when we lean into discomfort and taking action.

Jamie Palmer [00:23:51]: And for me, that is a huge part about why I've created and structured the programs that I've created. Because, you know, the fact of the matter is we don't necessarily need more human design readers that can read, type, and profile. We need more human design readers that understand the depth of the chart and how circuitry impacts type and profile. We need more people who understand that definition makes things present in a different way. We need more people who understand the format, gates, and energies and the role, gates, and energies. We need more people who understand that certain gates are more conditioning than others. We need people who understand that there's going to be generational patterns based on not only what was going on collectively, but also the transits that were happening. You know, I saw a chart yesterday, and I said, it had 3 of the format energies in it.

Jamie Palmer [00:25:02]: And I was like, I know that chart. Like, my husband has the heart chart just like that. And I was like, is this person 37 years old? And the person was like, how the heck do you know that? And the reality is, you know, that's the kind of depth that we need. And in my opinion, the the the future of HD for me isn't necessarily in human design readers. The future for me with HD is really about weaving human design into our existing expertise. It's in the example like I used with the course creation agency. She's not overly saying, I use HD to help people finish their course, but that is exactly what she does. You know? There is massive opportunities for people who want to create a blue ocean in their industry, who want to create a category of 1 in their industry by weaving human design with their existing expertise.

Jamie Palmer [00:26:12]: This is true, like, for me, where I see lots of opportunities here, it's professional services. There is massive opportunity in professional services for leveraging human design. There is massive opportunity in education and relationships and parenting and, money and finances. There's massive opportunity in event design, in even real estate. Like, there's there's for me, I see so many possible for dating, for, how nutrition and health. Like, the list could go on and on here. And for me, that's really a big part of what drives me forward in in my HD wild and my HD or biz programs because I really believe, particularly in HD WiL, that if we can have more people who leverage HD as a tool in their business in some form, whether publicly, speaking to it or by the scenes to create behind the scenes to create more predictable outcomes. Right? And that was what my client wanted to do.

Jamie Palmer [00:27:29]: She wanted to create more predictable outcomes in getting people to finish their stuff. Right? Ultimately, when we can use HD as a tool like this, it can radically change our businesses and our world and our clients' worlds. And to me, that's really where I see an HD revolution. Right? That's where I see the ability to be able to individuate, if you will, or differentiate, not only for yourself, but for your client, your expertise. Right? And, of course, you know, to me, these are the places where, yes, it is a bit of work to weave your existing expertise with human design, and we have to always just be thinking about what is the problem I'm solving for. Right? What are the things that come up most frequently with my clients that I'm I'm struggling with? And then we can use HD as a tool for that. Right? We see lots of people doing this. And I have lots of clients in the program.

Jamie Palmer [00:28:40]: We have some that are doing this with book writing. We have some that are doing it with yoga. We have others that are doing it with executive coaching. We have some people leveraging it with event planning. We have some people leveraging it with health and reiki and TCM, traditional Chinese medicine. So people are already starting to go down this path, and the reality is when you weave human design into your existing expertise, you create an entirely new category. You're you're doing category design because no one else is doing that. Right? You're you're creating this category of 1, and it offers massive opportunity for you to position yourself as an industry thought leader and expert.

Jamie Palmer [00:29:32]: It also opens up opportunities to create certification programs and write books and create TV shows, and it opens up all of these other opportunities as a result. Couple of other things before we wrap. I think the other piece that I really wanna talk about are my values. So for me, practicing what you preach is is probably really one of the most important things to me. I want to be around people who practice what they preach, who lean into taking action. Right? We can only stay in planning and strategy for so long because planning and strategy, while we need that and it's necessary, until we step out onto the playing field of life or business or whatever it is, we won't actually get the answers that we're trying to figure out by planning. We could spend the rest of our lives planning and never really knowing many of the answers to the questions that come up and the what ifs that come up with planning. Right? So for me, practicing what you preach, leaning into this idea of taking micro steps, I also really believe in focusing, following one course till successful.

Jamie Palmer [00:30:53]: I constantly am asking people, you know, what is the one thing? Right? And this is from the book, The One Thing. What is the one thing that if you move that thing forward, it would move all other things forward? Right? And that, for me, when I started this journey, was my HD Human Design for Business book. Right? I was like, if I write this book, this is gonna move all the other things in my business forward. And it's true. It has, and it continues to. And so I am constantly asking people to focus on the thing that's gonna create a domino effect because the reality is we live in a world where we are constantly distracted. We're constantly our nervous systems are constantly on alert by our phones and the dings and the bells and the whistles and all of that sort of stuff. We get glittery objects syndrome and FOMO, and we should ourselves.

Jamie Palmer [00:31:49]: I should do this because this is what's typical. And the reality is that we just give ourselves permission to focus and and just focus on one thing for 1 year and really give that thing everything that we have, you know, it's it's amazing the results that people will get. And then, of course, the last thing that I that from a values perspective, and there are a few more, but these are the most important values to me, is I really believe in I would always rather invest the money and buy one high quality piece and be able to love that piece for the rest of my life and have it with me for life than by 10 different things that I constantly need to be replacing. And I really try to create, cultivate, and develop programs that will be with you for life, that you can come back to again and again and again, like a awesome backpack or a beautiful handbag, that you come back and you treasure it. And every time you dive in, you're met with delight or a new And that, for me is is a huge part of my philosophy and the way in which I develop content and the way in which I teach. I regularly have clients from past cohorts of HD wild beta, HD or biz beta from one of the 12 times I've run HD or biz that say I went back to the content and I had this other or I went back to the content and I noticed this. And that is something that happens regularly for me, and I believe it's because I really do create content that is high quality, that has depth, that's nuance, that's layered, that is going to be with you for life, that is going to support you as you grow and evolve and create that that foundation. And as you peel back the layers of conditioning, like, you might hear things in a different way.

Jamie Palmer [00:34:02]: And that's something for me that I really pride myself on, and I really work hard to create those resources and that container and the learning platform to support people in that journey. So that's really how I approach human design a little bit differently than other people. I thought that would be a I thought this would be a great way to kinda kick off season 3 of the podcast because it's not something that I've really talked about, and it is something that I'm going to bring more of to the podcast. And so I thought this would be a great way to preface that. If you do feel called to step into my world, I invite you to come into the HD Wild program. HD Wild is a 1 year human design certification program. This is really where I spend the vast majority of my time supporting students. Students in that program get one to one support with me.

Jamie Palmer [00:35:07]: I have really tried to make that program the only program that you will need for the entirety of the year because I offer here's all the human design info. Right? So we educate you in human design, and we give you resources and somatics and ecocentric, practices to integrate for yourself and for your clients. We offer deconditioning support for you through mindset calls, through Voxer access with me, and then we also offer you support in your business based on all of the stuff that I've done in HD or biz, BDHD, my business ecosystem builders program, and we offer tech support because I know that's one of the things that always holds people back. So I really, really try to make that be the only program that you need in order to move your your business forward. This is a place in HDBarewhile where we help you leverage your existing expertise to create that blue ocean in a category of 1 in your industry. And if you're interested in that program, enrollment is evergreen. And you can check out hdinthewild.com if you wanna learn more about that. We also recently just did an open house, which I'll make sure I put in the notes if you wanna dive deeper in learning more about that program.

Jamie Palmer [00:36:19]: Thank you so much for tuning in. I super appreciate you being here. I'm very excited to be back with the podcast, and we'll see you next time on the HD Your Biz Show.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. On this episode I dive into the unique personality profile of 6/3 Role Model Martyr profile in human design who are here to test the limits of what is possible in this work and be of council and a leader in the world when they embody their own autheticity and balance observation with experiementation

hey are characterized by a cycle of engagement and withdrawal, with three distinct life phases: birth to 30 years, 30 to 50 years, and 50 years and beyond. The six three profile is often seen as chaotic due to their constant engagement and disengagement, but this is part of their process. They are driven by curiosity and a desire for perfectionism, constantly asking "what's next?" and seeking to experience more. Palmer suggests that six threes need to learn to trust their strategy, soften their extremes, and honor the ebbs and flows of their life. They are encouraged to view their experiments not as failures, but as lessons learned.

If you want to dive deeper into human design I invite you to explore the HD Wild Program. 

Order the Human Design for Business Book 

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The six three profile, the role model martyr, or as I like to say in Ecocentric human design, the mentor expert you are here to taste. All that life has to offer. You see possibilities where others see an end. You push us forward by leading authentically and objectively. Your awareness and experiments give you a unique perspective on the world. Each encounter with another has the potential to create transformation in your world. You push humanity forward with the unique way you see the world. You are here before your time, a catalyst for change in the world. Your wisdom gained through lessons learned, creates a lasting impact on those you've never even met. You shine the light on a new path and pave the way forward. Okay, so let's dive into the six three profile. So when we think about this energy, we've got the third line, which themes are rejection and allegiance, bonds made, bonds broken.

And then in the sixth line, we've got these themes of not trusting, trusting, not leading, leading. And the reality is when we come to this profile, you have to understand that when we have a six three, they are preparing us to start a new in the one three. So the six three is the last of the 12 profiles, but it actually preps for us to start the cycle again in the one three. And so it's prepping the stage. It's like it's constantly asking, is this worth it? Is this not worth it? Still more things here. How can we test this?

And so we have to understand that the six three is here to move humanity forward. And they are here to own their own uniqueness and really just be true to themselves above all else. And they find this understanding and objectivity through the lens of their interactions. And every encounter they have with another person renders that person a transformation. And these are people who live a life of engagement and withdrawal and engagement and withdrawal over and over and over and over again. And of course we've got a six line. So it exists in three phases, right? Phase one birth to 30 years. This is a double third line. So there's a lot of bumping into things. There's a lot of life bumping into them. They're jumping into things, they're jumping out of things, they engage and they disengage and they make bonds and they break them.

And then phase 30 to 50, these six threes tend to run to the roof really quick and totally disengage from life for a period of time. And they just observe. And it's often also during this time where they get really bored and that boredom jumps them off the roof and they go experiment some more. And then they're like, oh, why did I even come down here with the people? And then they go back up. And the reality is, since that third line is on the body side or the subconscious side or the design side, they often have life unknowingly happen to them. They kind of unknowingly enter into experiments because they're not necessarily conscious of it. Like a three five kind of knowingly enters into experiments or a three six sort of knowingly enters into experience. The six three isn't as aware that they're entering into an experiment.

Experiments happen to them. Experiments help them gain wisdom so that they can fully engage in life. And then it's usually in phase three, 50 years and beyond where they spread their wings and they integrate all of the lessons from the first 50 years of their life. And really this is the time when they will step into the role of a leader or not, depending upon if they're in the high expression or the low expression. And it's during this time where they lead by leading with the people. They lock arms with the people, they get down with the people, and they just embody leadership on the ground, right? Versus the six two, they're leading almost from a place of counsel sort of behind the scenes. The six three is very getting their hands dirty leadership. And ultimately, this is how the six three finds fulfillment in life.

And they want every interaction that they have to be authentic and bring a new level of awareness. And I always think of these people as old souls, wise old souls, and they've gained so much knowledge through practical hands-on experience. And they have this also weird awareness of other people through the observations from being on the roof. And the reality is this profile from the outside looking in can really almost look like they're chaotic because they're going to engage in something and then withdraw and engage and withdraw and engage and withdraw. And the reality is that's how they're intended to move about the world. And they have to sort of mind the balance of the extremes that they feel pulled to experience. And extremes are part of their process, and they move humanity forward through their extremes, through their questioning, through their experiments, and by sampling all that life has to offer.

But extremes and chaos are ever present in the six three. And this can bring lots of challenges in their relationships. They want the truth all the time. They want connections all the time. And yet they, they're questioning, they're oscillating back and forth. They're in, and then they're out. They're weary to connect, and then they're not. And they question and they push and they really wonder what else is possible on this plane while doing it on their own terms and with their own authentic flare. And they're under constant tension to engage in this life and to evolve and to transition. And they're often judged by other people as chaotic.

They're judged for their changes that they make. They're judged for their failures that they have with their experiments. And the reality is these are people who also get bored being on the roof because observing everybody, observing everybody, like I just want to go down in an experiment. And it's almost like their body takes over and enters them into experiments. And this cycle is going to repeat, repeat, and repeat until they can find something that they're passionate about that it's with worthy of them to stick with. And so the challenges here are many. And the reality is this is a profile that's here to impact the collective. And they are here to push us forward by being on the roof and observing and by getting off the roof and experimenting and experiencing. And while the six three life may have a lot of ups and downs, they are a treasure of a human and they're keenly aware that they're ahead of their time and they just can't seem to fit in.

And they see things that other people can't see yet or have not necessarily come into the peripheral of others. And so the challenges here are of course, phase one, double third line, which is incredibly chaotic. The wounds here are often very traumatic. For the folks that experienced this, they bump into life, they bump into them. But the reality is the experiments and the quote failures that they have is really what helps them embody wisdom as they move throughout life. This is a time when they might struggle to trust. They feel like this can't be all that life has to offer. And as a result, this can lead them disengaged, distrustful, and frustrated. The other thing Is the six three gets bored quickly and they have to learn to channel that boredom into something that's worthy. And the third line on the body side pulls them into life and can leave them wondering, how did this happen?

They can have a chaotic process. They can kind of look frantic or chaotic from the outside, and that can potentially be traumatizing from swinging, from engaged to unengaged boards to stimulated observing, to experimented. And the reality is they have to learn that they're experiments always bring about something better. And there's a lesson there to be learned. And so the six three is under tremendous judgment because they may not look like they have it altogether or that they're a mess or that they're a failure. And the reality is that often just leads to more extreme behavior. So for those of us who have a six three in our lives, we need to actually meet them with compassion and give them a safe place to experiment, a safe place to help them sit in a holding pattern if that's what they're called to do. We also need to be able to conversely hold space for them when it's time for them to engage in life and move from experiment to experiment without judgment.

Because the reality is the six three wants connection and they lead by being in the thick of it. And they have this wisdom and objectivity from their observations and their experiments that is really different than the other profiles. These are people who are here to test the limits of what is available to us on the material plane. They're really always asking and begging the question like, what's next? And there are people who are perennially dissatisfied, right? They're like, is this it? Is that all? There has to be more to life than this? And this results in a constant need to sample and experience more and taste more. And the reality is, the wonder and the curiosity of the six three is insatiable, and it also leads to a need for perfectionism as a result. And there's this constant, particularly in that sixth line that wants to tweak and hone and tweak and hone and perfect.

And that third line wants to gain more knowledge, gain more experiments. And so there's a constant tension in these lines that people have to really learn to reckon with and learn to contend with as part of their experience. So one thing here is to really learn to trust and rely on your strategy. That is so important for six threes. And they must learn to soften the edges of their extremes, particularly with other people, so that they can hone their objectivity. Yet for them, that fulfillment does come at the edge of those extremes, right? And they really need to just learn to honor the ebbs and flows of their life and understand that they are people who see possibility with their awareness in the world. And as a result, they may get rejected and labeled, but they are here before their time with a keen sense of awareness of what's possible.

And they might be met with resistance because something that they're doing is new or out there and they see possibility in something new when things come to an end. So the six three really, it shows us by living through example, that authenticity is the key to living a fulfilled life, and that there is more that's here on this plane. Some questions to ask a six three profile. What did you learn? What possibilities are available? Is this relationship where I need to reestablish a bond or break it? What is my relationship with my experiments? Do I see them through the lens of failure or through lessons learned? Am I entering into this with my strategy and authority? Or am I relying on my logic? Where might others be passing judgment on me that is causing me to shrink my power? What is my relationship with failure? Is it part of who I am or is it just how I experience the world? What have I learned from bumping into life? What is authenticity to me? What makes me unique? And have I found someone who accepts my process of experimenting? That is the six three profile, the role model martyr in traditional human design, or as I like to say, the mentor, experi mentor. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll talk to you all soon.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. On this episode I dive into the unique personality profile of 5/2 heretic hermit profile in human design who are here call themselves out and live in a pressure free world where they own their innate talents without caving to the pressure of the projection field. 

These are people who are must follow what nourishes thems vs what depeletes them in live and hone their talents and when the correct time arrives they call themselves out to step into the projection field transform others then reutrn to their hermiting. 

If you want to dive deeper into human design I invite you to explore the HD Wild Program. 

Order the Human Design for Business Book 

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The six two profile in human design, the role model hermit, or as I like to say in Ecocentric human design, the mentor introvert, you are here to show the world what it means to live an embodied and authentic life. You are trustworthy, optimistic, and deep. You see possibilities and hope with your unique perspective like the hawk that soars above you, lead through counsel with your specialist expertise and are sought out for your wisdom. You lead through listening and being discerning with your words. You seek out a life with depth and meaning. You build trust in others. Slowly over time, you are recognized by the other for your gifts that you bring to the world. You are a gift to humanity with the possibilities you see in the world. Okay, so let's dive into the six two profile. So when we come to any sixth line profile, we have to remember that the sixth line exists in three phases.

Phase one is birth to roughly 30 years, and they live life more like a third line. So they're going to bump into things, life's going to bump into them, they're going to learn the hard way. Then around 30 to 50, phase two begins. And phase two is really where six twos build the foundation of their life. They seek out a partner, they hone and refine their expertise. They tend to establish a family and a home base around this time, and they almost withdraw. And this is easy, even more extreme in a six two. And the reality is part of the reason why they withdraw. Many people talk about this is being on the roof.

I really believe any six line, but six two is in particular because they have these themes of trust or not trust leadership or not in the sixth line. And then in the second line, it's like nourish or depleter, shy, withdraw, bold advance. So when we come to the six two, we have to remember six lines. I don't believe six lines ever actually heal from the wounds of those first 30 years that they experience. It's almost like a scab that never truly heals, like it's always still tender. And ultimately six twos need to find people that they can trust. And it's in that second phase where they really kind of cultivate and hone their inner circle. And that's where the key relationships in their life are built. And they're built Upon trust. And the reality is the sixth line, they're idealists. They want to find the perfect partner.

They want someone that they can relate to. They want someone that they can be proud of. And partnership for six twos can come in many different forms. I see it in the form of entrepreneurship. I see it in the form of a relationship like life partner. And the reality is it's six two's put up barriers almost to see who is willing to actually do the work to break them down and is this relationship worthy? And then we've got phase three and it's around 50 that the six two really starts to reengage with life. They step down from this place of observation and people call this coming off the roof. But the reality is you don't just come off the roof and stay off the roof. You kind of go back and forth. And it's during this phase where they can step into their role model.

Now, just because a six two is the role model doesn't mean they're guaranteed to step into that mentor role model role, but ideally in the high expression, this is where they are a living, breathing example of an objective observer and leader. And the reality is the six two is constantly being observed by the other. And the other is constantly observing the six two. And the six two is getting noticed and called out for their gifts because that second line is a projection field. And these are people who can actually provide feedback to other people without inserting their own interest or making it about them. They are here and they listen to other people and they see hope for humanity. And they also see the despair in humanity. They see the weakness and the frailness in humanity. But ultimately these people are people who are optimistic.

They see the best in themselves, they see the best in people around them. They want to see others bring their dreams to fruition in an on the line low expression. The six two is uncertain. It's got a lot of hatred, it's got a lot of distrust, it's got a lot of weakness. Our experience is a lot of weaknesses. It sees how weak humanity actually is and becomes withdrawn and doesn't actually step into that role model. And the reality is, in order for a six two to be aligned to their high expression, trust is a key part of their life. And they won't ever really kick someone out of their life, but they'll hold that person at a distance. They'll only engage with them on social or surface level. And the six two is a transpersonal profile. It means it needs others to fulfill its destiny.

And when they don't trust or when they feel withdrawn, they're going to struggle to actually live that out. And the reality is they have a powerful ability to interact with the people around them when they can trust. However, that second line doesn't always recognize its talents. It doesn't always know what it's actually good at yet people are constantly projecting on it what it is good at, what it's talents are. And so it becomes incredibly important for the six two to actually be discerning about what are they actually willing to come off the roof for and go down with the people. Because what happens is when they go down with the people, they risk having their wounds from those first 30 years be poked, right? Because tender from that and six lines just simply being six lines can trigger people. And ultimately the six two is here to be self-sufficient, to be visionary.

It's here to be optim optimistic. And as they hone their process and start to maintain their objective perspective, and if they cannot allow the fragility of the world to keep them down, they will really flourish and get their wings, as I like to say, in phase two and phase three, right? In phase two, they kind of have baby wings. And then in phase three they really spread their wings. And so these are people who need to sort of oscillate between engaging with life, coming off the roof, getting back up on the roof and going back and forth and back and forth. And it's important to understand that the words of a six two carry weight, unlike other profiles, because the sixth line is almost as if they're someone who is super human.

And the reality is the six two gains wisdom through observation. And unlike the fifth line that we've been talking about, six twos, everyone they meet, everyone they encounter it can has the potential be transformed by the words of that six two. And it's important to understand that these are people who show the rest of us how to live an embodied life. How when we can realize our potential that's waiting to be discovered within us, we can live life to the fullest. And the magic of the six two happens when they embody their authenticity and they show up and they share their answers that they have within without the need for external validation from other people in order to transform each person with each encounter that they have. Now, the challenges here are many because these are people who often carry the wound from phase one with them, and it never truly heals.

So they're skeptical, they're weary, they're distrusting of life. When they come down with the people, they do not want to be poked or prodded in their wounds. Yet as soon as they come down and hang out with the people, they tend to get prodded because people can energetically feel there's something different about a six two. They're also a projected profile, so they're under constant observation from the other. So people are constantly looking at that six two and projecting on them, right? Oh, look, you're so talented at this. Come help me with this thing. And the reality is six twos will also often trigger other people simply by existing. Because the six two is the highest. It's almost like superhuman. The fifth line is the highest universalizing power of the human experience. But the sixth line is like this superhuman experience. So they trigger people simply by existing.

And the reality is the six line sits on the roof. So these are people who go around sparking things in other people, sparking transformation in other people simply by existing. Yet obviously the opposite can be true, right? It can also trigger people simply by existing. And the reality is the six two is almost aloof to the expectations of other people. And they're aloof to the fact that I don't get what this whole human thing's all about. And there is a tendency here to have perfectionism. And the reality is these are people who have an abundance of knowledge, often through traditional knowledge acquisition and also observation. And they can't necessarily articulate their gifts or explain their process, yet they can perfectly point out the ways and paths and ways for others to transform yet for themselves. They strive for this perfection. And ultimately what happens is that leads to an action and fear.

And the reality is they tend to realize that as they start to share things, their synthesis or their knowledge might change over time as a gain more observation. And therefore, they're afraid that they're going to be shamed, that what they said two years ago isn't relevant anymore. And so there's a real tension here for the six two. But ultimately we have to understand that in order for the six two to live out their expression, there's no bypassing the projection field for other people. And they really have to learn to trust in the unknown. And in order for the six two to endure, and on the other side, they have to be discerning in who they trust. They have to learn to embody and integrate the knowledge and the wisdom and the observations, and they have to really honor the divine timing of life. And there's a tendency here for them to compare their journey to other people.

But the six two journey is not like any of the other profiles. So this comparison itis can leave them withdrawn and questioning their gifts. And since they kind of see things from a different perspective, they're often more aware of things that are happening than other people. And they tend to be met with resistance when they share their vision, and then they'll start to question their gifts as a result. And this leads to judgment, which leads to inaction. But it's important to understand that this profile needs time alone in order to cultivate their gifts and become who they're meant to be. And the reality is they have a big purpose here in this world. So if you are a six two, it's important for you to understand that this is just part of the process. So some questions to contemplate as a six two is what did I learn from this experience?

Who is in my circle of trust and who can support me in calling out my gifts? Where am I relying too much on my mind and not enough on the inner knowing of my body? Am I clear on what my gifts are? Where do I feel nourished? Am I spending enough time alone, or am I spending too much time alone? Am I trying to make something perfect instead of stepping down off the roof? Have I tended to the wounds of the first 30 years of my life? And how can I honor my need for depth and substance? So thank you for tuning in to the six two Mentor Introvert. We'll talk to y'all soon.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. On this episode I dive into the unique personality profile of 5/2 heretic hermit profile in human design who are here call themselves out and live in a pressure free world where they own their innate talents without caving to the pressure of the projection field. 

These are people who are must follow what nourishes thems vs what depeletes them in live and hone their talents and when the correct time arrives they call themselves out to step into the projection field transform others then reutrn to their hermiting. 

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The five two profile, the heretic hermit in traditional human design, or as I like to say in Ecocentric human design, the disruptor introvert, you yearn for a world where pressure does not exist. Harmony exudes and wraps you in its sweet surrender. You feel at peace. You are strong and innately talented. You yearn to honor your way of doing things non-traditional unexplainable from within you. Discriminately discern which call is for you carefully selecting from the plethora of options present with your genius. You call yourself forth a force of nature, out of the mundane, the stale, and into something revolutionary, something new. And in this calling, you found nourishment, harmony, and a moment that is pressure free.

So today we're going to talk about the hermit heretic, or as I like to say, the disruptor introvert. So one of the things that we have to think about here is the fifth line's on the conscious side. It lives in the projection field. It's on the second floor. It's looking out. No one can see in it's observing others, but no one can observe it. And then we have the second line. It's on the subconscious side. It lives on the first floor of the house. It lives in the projection field, but everyone can see it. And the second line on the body side, when it's subconscious, it's not aware that people are looking in and observing it, right? It's just in its house doing its own thing. I like to think of this profile as the reluctant disruptor. Unlike the five one profile, the five two isn't necessarily aware of its own gifts and talents, and it's constantly under observation by the other.

And it's constantly asking itself like, why should I even bother disrupting? Why should I even bother universalizing? And it is perfectly content to hermit away in its own environment. And the reality is the five two didn't have to work to acquire its knowledge. It just has it. It's naturally talented. And therefore they don't necessarily experience pressure in the same way as other fifth lines do to universalize. The five two just simply wonders, why am I constantly being projected on this? Makes me feel really uncomfortable. I'm tired of being so pressured. So this profile's in constant tension with itself as it needs other people in order to fulfill its destiny. But the reality is it constantly questions themselves. It's like, what benefit does

This actually bring me? And in an ideal world, the five two needs to be called out by themselves. They have to recognize and understand their own talents, and then they have to universalize those talents and get other people to believe in them. And this comes with a great deal of uncertainty and vulnerability because it's very different than the other fifth lines, the five one. It's here to universalize a foundation that's based on a depth of knowledge, the five two Universalizes based on its own past lived experiences and inner talent. So it's a very rare and unique gift. So it's very different than the other fifth lines. So they stand on their own power and beliefs and not the projections of other people. So the five two doesn't need to wait for the projection field or the illusion of power to build like a five one does.

It exists on both sides of the projection field, right? And when we have a five two, the five two always, the fifth line always prefers to be hidden behind the veil. And the line two always prefers term it. So it's very rare when a five two feels called to universalize their beliefs based on their past lived experiences and create change. And even though this profile exists in a double projection field, since the two is on the body side, they're often unaware on the two five of what those projections actually are. And it has to actually call itself in order to fulfill its potential. And the five two is often withdrawn, but not in a negative way. They're completely just content in their own withdrawal, right? Yet at any time, they can almost prod themselves into action. They can seduce themselves into action, but their process is one that is very discerning.

And they have to understand, is this talent or genius actually correct to bring forth to the collective from my past or not? So learning to understand the correct calling is really key for them so they can understand when it's time to step out and when it's not. So these are people who have to learn to stand in their own strength. They have to learn to believe in themselves. They have to have faith that they're going to answer the correct call out of themselves, even though they might not be entirely convinced that the gifts that they bring forth are worthy, right? And so these are people who are revolutionary, they're authentic, they're naturals, but they tend to not be aware of their own gifts. Yet they have a profound impact on the lives of other people because as they step out into the projection field with the correct call to universalize a past experience, they nourish other people with their gifts, and thus they nourish themselves.

So these are people who need lots of alone time in order to build confidence around the gifts that they have. And the reality is this profile doesn't do well under pressure. So allowing people with this profile time to process and honor their strategy and authority really is key. They do have an inherent genius, but they need time. And the reality is rejection for this profile can be a huge challenge because they already feel uncertain about what they're good at, and they can get really overwhelmed and confused by all of the different projections that they face on a regular basis. So the reality is they have to have an inherent belief in themselves, and they have to cultivate that over time. The five two wants to live in harmony with the world around it, and they do best when no one in their world is pressuring them.

They really yearn for a pressure-free world. So the challenges of this profile are many. Because they lived in the double projection field, they're often very weary from an early age of the projections that other people put on them. I know when I've experienced a lot of clients with this profile, they tend to be hesitant about people. There's this level of anxiety and tension and just unease around people because of that projection field. And the reality is they're not even sure if their gifts are good, and the reality is they have to learn to call themselves out. So they have to contend with this double projection pressure, and they have to learn to call themselves out when they're not even aware what their gifts actually are. So this often means, as I like to say, sort of the introvert vortex. The introvert vortex is a place where the five two is content to just do their own thing.

And they almost put a sign up that's like, stay away from me. And they absolutely push other people away. So there's a period of time where the introvert vortex is positive for the five two, but it can become negative if they stay in that too long because essentially they never actually build the confidence around their gifts and they never actually universalize anything. They lean on that line too, and they just kind of hermit away for forever, and they never actually fulfill their own destiny. So the five two has to ideally get clear on what their gifts are and allow those gifts time to marinate, because that is a huge part of their process, and they don't do well with pressure. So trying to pressure them is often a recipe for more hermiting. And the reality is they have to just allow themselves to be in their process, which they can't explain anyway.

And then when the time is right, they call themselves out and they make a massive influence. It's important to understand these people tend to be suspicious of other people, and they're suspicious of what they're told they're good at. They're suspicious of what other people say to them because they don't necessarily feel that. Then they feel pressured to fulfill those gifts, and it just creates a whole world of struggle. But it's only when they spend time alone actually cultivating those gifts when they feel confident enough to call themselves out. Although they will never have 100% confidence in their gifts and talents, however, it's their belief that actually joles them into the projection field. Also, I think it's probably important to note that rejection for this profile is incredibly hard. When they get rejected, it often means they've stepped into the projection field and they've answered the call from somebody else, or they didn't honor the timing of themselves.

And that has a really, really long lasting impact on the five two, which can be absolutely detrimental to them in actually moving forward and feeling whole and confident in having belief in themselves. So when we have a five two profile, we have the disruptor introvert. Some questions that we can ask them that may be supportive are, is this something I should live up to? What benefit does this bring to me? Does this nourish me or does this deplete me? Does this make me feel magnetic and attractive? Or do I feel unattractive and magnetic? Can I actually deliver on the projections that are being projected on me? Have I been in my introvert vortex for too long, too long? What are the things that bring me joy? And what am I innately talented about but can't explain why or what passive experience do I believe has changed my life? Am I calling myself out or am I being called by another? Am I willing to fall on the sword for this? Am I being pressured to take action before I am ready? And am I or do I feel pressured to perform because others said I'm good at blank? So that is the five two heretic hermit in traditional human design, or as I like to say, the disruptor introvert. Thank you so much for tuning in. We'll talk to you all soon.

On today's episode of the HD Your Biz Podcast - Human Design for Business I continue the deep dive into the 12 profiles series in human design. On this episode I dive into the unique personality profile of 5/1, who are here to disrupt the way things have always been done and forge a better foundation by universalizing a practical solution for all.  

These are people who are must honor the fact that in order to be successful in life they need a solid foundation to stand upon and they move out into the projection field with confidence once that foundation is built. , I offer some tips on how to handle the projection field, foundations and more.

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The five one profile known as the heretic investigator in traditional human design or an ecocentric human design. The disruptor researcher, you are here to disrupt the way that it has always been done, burn it down, break it, and start anew. You're here to blaze a new trail perhaps before your time. You'll find your way by cultivating and nourishing a foundation, one by one, you light the way illuminating the path for many this new way once thought of as crazy is the catalyst for a life better lived a life with more ease. You establish a new standard, bringing many together with your power, step into the light and be seen when it's time. Honor the timing of your life to be seen or not. This is the key for you to thrive. So we've got the five one profile here, and this is a profile that has the highest universalizing power of the transpersonal or left angle profile.

So where the bigger number comes first. And these are people who fifth lines, as you know, live in the projection field. So four or five, one, their first projection is a little bit different than the other fifth line profiles and that it's usually positive. And then the second projection is usually negative. So we want to keep that in mind as we go through this. So I think it's important to understand that the first line foundation, this is the authoritarian, this is the conservative. These are the people who have to have all the information in place before they move forward. The first line is the foundation of the hexagram, and then you have the fifth line. This is the disruptor, this is the general, the hoarder, the seducer, the magnetic. This is kind of the rebel of all of the lines in human design. And this lives on the second story.

If we use the metaphor of the house to explain the lines, and this is the second story, but it's the second story window with the lights on, but the window's closed and there's an air of mystery about it. When we look at this, we have to understand that five ones are mysterious and magnetic and they really have this sort of non-conformity about them and they kind of differ from the three five, and that what they're here to disrupt tends to be a bit more veiled. So we have to remember that four or five one, the first

Is almost always positive, right? It's a positive projection. And the reality is this is a profile that carries a great deal of responsibility. They have a responsibility to almost be a superior human. And they live in the projection field, the projection field on the mine side. And they are often very misunderstood by other people. And people don't ever really truly understand the depth of their being. And the reality is they take their knowledge and their research and the foundation that they've established and they universalize it. And the intention for them is always to impact large numbers of people. But the challenge here is that they have to have a keen understanding of when it's time to come in and universalize. And that first line empathy can really trip them up because the reality is they have this tendency to want to be a savior and they say things like, Ooh, I can do that and that and help other people, even though that's not the thing that they originally came to disrupt.

And when that happens, we call this rather burning at the stake like a three five in the five one. This is a fall from grace for the disruptor researcher, right? This is a fall from grace. And if they have a six two in their life, the six two can usually kind of help them soften this fall from grace. That second projection, if you will, and the reality four or five one is when they have this fall from grace, when that second projection comes, it's often because they stayed out too long saving the day and they didn't honor the timing or they didn't answer the right call. They let their empathy get the best of them, or they didn't have an effective solution for the call, or they weren't actually in touch with the people. So one of the things that's important to remember, four or five, one more so than any other fifth line, is that they have to have a practical, pragmatic solution that works for everyone, for whatever it is that they're here to disrupt.

Whereas in a three five, their solution doesn't have to actually work for everyone. And so this profile in particular, their experts at their craft, they enjoy coming in to disrupt when all else has fail because they're certain, because they've established such a solid foundation that their solution will actually work for other people. They're very effective at getting results for whatever that one thing it is that they've gotten for results for people. But the reality is timing is really important for them. And answering the correct projections is also really key. So for these people, they must only answer the projection when they feel super secure. And that feeling of secureness or insecurity, whichever one comes up, is not the right projection for the five one. And the five one has to learn to realize that not every projection is for them, and they have to put their ego aside and they have to put their empathy aside.

And they really have to understand that projections bring possibility, but that's not a guarantee for success. And oftentimes the five one, they can see that people need help and their empathy takes over and they stay out in the projection field too long and they get themselves in trouble. But the reality is the five one isn't here to rush things. They're methodical, they're deliberate, they're calculated. But the reality is they have to be really discerning about what they're willing to fall from grace about. And the five one ideally or optimally gets their homework done, gets prepared behind closed doors, they hoard information, they demand answers, they cultivate details. And then only when they feel attractive and secure and magnetic do they step out into the projection field and put their message out there. So the reality is these are people who are going to need time behind closed doors alone preparing to answer the call, and they're creative and they can leverage their sort of unorthodox way of seeing the world in order to step out into the projection field with their practical solution.

So it's important to understand that this is a profile who spends a lot of time observing the world around them, and they don't necessarily fully reveal themselves to other people. They're often deep individuals who need time alone in order to sort out their foundation. And it is in this time where they're alone and withdrawn, that they build up the confidence and the safety and the security and the strength and the resources in order to actually create that practical, pragmatic solution. So the five ones here, and they're hoarding their information and they're hoarding all this knowledge and they're gaining all this information and they're getting more and more projections, but they're like, my foundation's not there yet. My foundation's not there yet. My foundation's not there yet. And then one day the foundation is there and they have all these projections that a buildup, and then they can step out into the field.

They can come out from behind their window and their curtain and then they can universalize. And so the five one ideally thrives. There are systems and processes in place to be relied on, but this requires them to be very disciplined and patient and remembering to withdraw once their projection has been fulfilled. And I've seen this with five ones that I have as clients. They stay out too long, they put out an offer or a program or a course or whatever, they help somebody with something and they're like the other person's talking to them and they're projecting on them and they're like, oh, actually I can help you with that too. And ultimately what happens is they can't fulfill on that second projection. They weigh that they can on the first projection, and they actually get themselves into a fall from grace. Their reputation is hurt.

The reality is five ones are incredibly powerful and influential, and they're here to change the world for the better. But they have to make sure that they honor the timing of their life. That's really key for them in order to actually create beauty and creativity and solutions for the people. So the challenges of the five one, the disruptor researcher are many, right? I don't want to sugarcoat it here. They live in the projection field. That is never an easy thing to do. I know I'm a three five. So these are people who according to raw, the founder of human design, the hopes and dreams of humanity rest on the shoulders of a fifth line. And so we have to understand that these are people who are constantly being projected on and they have to reckon and contend with that projection. And the reality is they have be willing to fall from grace so that they can bring their universalization to life.

Five ones don't tend to fall as hard, or their refutation doesn't tend to suffer as much as that of a three five or a five, two or a five, a two five. But it's important to understand these are still people who have to make sure that the foundation that they're bringing to light is really solid. And I've seen this a lot with five ones in multiple different stages and aspects. The business, they think that they're ready to do something and the reality is it's far more complicated than it needs to be, and it's not really practical or pragmatic, and the solution doesn't necessarily work for everyone. Or they try to rush through the process. They think like, ah, I got to hurry up. And they get into this not self of their mind, and then they step out into the projection field and it just doesn't work for them.

And they have to understand that it's not a matter of if a fall from grace happens, it's a matter of when, but they can actually leverage a six two in order to help them repair their reputation. And it can be very helpful to have an ally of a 6, 2, 4 or five one in their lives. Because the reality is we trust six twos. We trust the word of a six two, we just do. And so we trust the word of the six two. So the six two can speak on behalf of the five one and their reputation or not. And so understanding who you have in your circle might be really helpful for you to establish more trust and repair your reputation when a fall from grace happens. As I mentioned, the five one is incredibly empathetic because empathy is the bonding strategy of the first line.

But the empathy here can seduce, right? Because the fifth line sort of seduces people to it, the fifth line with that one might actually seduce itself out into the world because of the fact that there's empathy there before they have all these details in place before all the knowledge has been acquired. And again, this happens from a fall from grace, and the five one ends up really hurt when this happens. So being really mindful of this as a five one is incredibly important to living out your design correctly. The other piece to keep in mind is that strategy and authority are key here. And really understanding the timing of your life and paying attention to the timing of your life and really having this awareness around is this a first projection or is this a second projection? Because the reality is if they don't trust that timing of their life, if they let their empathy get the best of them, that fall from grace happens.

And ultimately for a five one that gives them damage, their confidence and their attractiveness, and it shakes and rattles their foundation that they built. And these are people, they thrive on processes and systems, and they're often called to implement new ways of doing things. But as a result, because they're so innovative, people are like, oh, well since you did this, can you do that? And that second projection is never good for a five one. So they become too powerful, too controlling, too disruptive to the other humans, even though they probably just came in and saved the person's day. Kind of ironic. So there's all of that. Then there's also answering the wrong projections, which is also very problematic for the five one, which again leaves to damage in their attractiveness, damage in their confidence, and that tends to happen more so when they haven't had that really, really solid foundation.

So when we think of this from the perspective of how do we actually support a five one human in our lives, we have to remember that there's some questions we can ask the five one in order to help them align to who they are. So questions like, am I attractive? Do I have enough knowledge? How do I know when I will have enough knowledge? How do I know when I will have a solid enough foundation? What other details or pieces might be missing? Is this solution practical enough for everybody? Do I or am I tuning into my strategy and authority? Does the timing of this feel correct for me? Have I worked out all the details for my practical solution? Have I outstay my welcome? Is there a six two in my life that can be of counsel to me or help me rebuild my trust if I fall from Grace? And what can I learn from? Or what's a lesson I can learn when I've answered the wrong call? Lastly, is my support team projecting on me what they believe I should be? Or am I actually owning all that I am? That is the five one profile, the heretic investigator in traditional human design or in Ecocentric human design, the Disruptor Researcher. Thank you so much for tuning in. I hope you have a fantastic day. I.