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The latest executive order on Chief Human Capital Officers (CHCOs) leaves as much unsaid as it does stated—and that could have major implications for the future of federal HR leadership. Former DHS Chief Human Capital Officer, Jeff Neal, joins Francis to break down what the EO doesn’t say about turning CHCOs into political appointees and why that matters. Jeff shares his own experience transitioning his role from a political appointment to a career SES position and explains how this change could influence agency leadership, decision-making, and the independence of HR leaders across government.
Neal shares the real-world challenges CHCOs face in balancing politics with policy, the potential chilling effect on career executives, and why some fights are worth picking—and others aren’t. Plus, the latest insights on federal workforce trends, including why the government struggles to attract young talent and how hiring decisions today could shape the future of federal HR.
For more details and to read Jeff’s full analysis, visit today’s show page at FedGovToday.com. Subscribe and listen anytime on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anytime at FedGovToday.com.
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The latest executive order on Chief Human Capital Officers (CHCOs) leaves as much unsaid as it does stated—and that could have major implications for the future of federal HR leadership. Former DHS Chief Human Capital Officer, Jeff Neal, joins Francis to break down what the EO doesn’t say about turning CHCOs into political appointees and why that matters. Jeff shares his own experience transitioning his role from a political appointment to a career SES position and explains how this change could influence agency leadership, decision-making, and the independence of HR leaders across government.
Neal shares the real-world challenges CHCOs face in balancing politics with policy, the potential chilling effect on career executives, and why some fights are worth picking—and others aren’t. Plus, the latest insights on federal workforce trends, including why the government struggles to attract young talent and how hiring decisions today could shape the future of federal HR.
For more details and to read Jeff’s full analysis, visit today’s show page at FedGovToday.com. Subscribe and listen anytime on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or anytime at FedGovToday.com.

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