The Immeasurable Podcast

In the following episode of The Immeasurable Podcast, we interview Byron Katie.

Byron Katie is a well-known author and teacher. TIME describes her as "a spiritual innovator for the 21st century." For more information on Byron Katie and "The Work", click here.

In this episode, Jaap Sluijter and Leah Luong explore Byron Katie's work and how it relates to the teachings of J. Krishnamurti:

• Introduction by Jaap Sluijter (:25)
• Jaap introduces a new book, Unconditionally Free (2:06)
• Byron Katie says this mission, "to set mankind unconditionally free" is the mission of all human beings (3:07)
• Katie says an open mind is a questioned mind (4:40)
• Katie talks about "loving what is" and points to inquiry as essential to this natural discovery (5:50)
• Leah Luong asks Katie about attachment (6:57)
• Leah asks about what insight means in particular to Katie's life experience (8:47)
• Katie talks about a transformational insight in her past (9:51)
• Jaap continues to ask about Katie's transformational insight (13:59)
• Katie describes "The Work" briefly (23:47)
• Leah asks about specific aspects of "The Work"  (26:31)
• Katie goes on to talk about the nature of images and love (29:36)
• Jaap asks Katie about calming the suffering vs. ending suffering and introduces time is the enemy of man" a quote from J. Krishnamurti and invites Katie to comment (31: 43)
• Katie says Krishnamurti is pointing to the fact that time is an illusion (32:58)
• Leah asks about negation, doubt, time, and concepts (37:26)
• Katie talks about guilt and love and says our true nature can't be controlled  (40:03)
• Katie talks about "first-generation thinking"  (43:35)
• Jaap mentions Katie's line in Loving What Is "I was being thought" and asks her what that means (46:26)
• Jaap, Leah, and Katie say their goodbyes (48:05)

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J. Krishnamurti, Peter Fonda, Theo Lilliefelt, Alain Naudé, Tom Shea, Craig Walker, S. Lloyd Williams, and others participate in a small group discussion in Malibu, California, 1970.

This is the seventh discussion in an eight part series titled Can the Mind Observe Without Comparison?

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In the following episode of The Immeasurable Podcast, we interview Rupert Sheldrake.

Rupert Sheldrake, PhD, is a biologist and author best known for his hypothesis of morphic resonance. At Cambridge University he worked in developmental biology as a Fellow of Clare College. In 1982 J. Krishnamurti, David Bohm, John Hidley and Rupert Sheldrake came together to discuss the roots of psychological disorder, psychological suffering, the need for security and what is a healthy mind, given in four parts.

In this episode, Jaap and Gianni explore Rupert's work. 

• Gianni Garubo introduces Jaap Sluijter and welcomes Rupert Sheldrake. (:26) 
• Jaap asks Rupert about his recorded talk with J. Krishnamurti in 1982. (1:35)
• Rupert calls Krishnamurti a "spiritual anarchist". (4:50)
• Jaap asks Rupert about "human potential" and how it relates to authority. (9:43)
• Rupert talks about his relationship with Krishnamurti. (14:35)
• Gianni asks Rupert about "Morphic Resonance". (20:10)
• Jaap asks Rupert what the responsible action is for humanity to take to move in a new direction. (29:20)

To find out more about his work visit: sheldrake.org

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In the following episode of The Immeasurable Podcast, we interview Charles Eisenstein.

Charles Eisenstein is an American public speaker and author. His work covers a wide range of topics, including the history of human civilization, economics, spirituality, and the ecology movement. 

In this episode, Jaap and Gianni explore Charles’ unique perspective on the impediments humans face, conflict, safety and security, and relationship. In just a little over an hour, the trio create a conversation that shines a light on this real moment of reflection.

• The driver behind Charles’ mission and why he contributes to the world. (4:18) 
• Gianni comments on what gets in the way of observation and the reason why the mind is prevented from clear seeing. (13:13) 
• How the light of awareness removes impediments and barriers… and opens up possibilities. (17:39) 
• Charles explains why our impediments and conditioning exists, why they are useful, and what happens when we notice their confining nature. (19:04) 
• How Coronavirus has revealed the paradox of fear and fragility in the West… and how a psychologically weak population jumps to hysteria. (24:01) 
• What it means to be safe in the world and the mechanism behind problems like war. (25:10) 
• Charles describes how and why society summoned a crisis like Coronavirus. (29:14) 
• How warlike were pre-civilized cultures exactly? (32:44) 
• How the lack of important relationships creates more consequences than just isolation (hint: it’s the condition of modern society). (35:30) 
• What the things we condemn teach us about connection. (37:27) 
• Charles details how we can transcend hostility towards one another and create a new global story—one that meaningfully tells us who we are, why we’re here, and what our part is. (45:29) 
• Competition: how it helps us and how it hurts us. (49:20) 
• What will happen next if we don’t listen to what this pandemic is trying to teach us. (58:30)

To find out more about his work visit: charleseisenstein.org

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J. Krishnamurti, Peter Fonda, Theo Lilliefelt, Alain Naudé, Tom Shea, Craig Walker, S. Lloyd Williams, and others participate in a small group discussion in Malibu, California, 1970.

This is the sixth discussion in an eight part series titled Can the Mind Observe Without Comparison?

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In the following episode Mark Lee, author of Knocking on the Open Door, interviews Ravi Narsipur about the childhood years he spent with J. Krishnamurti.

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In the spirit of J. Krishnamurti's teachings, Francisco Mazza and Henry Fischer consider what it means to explore something together. This conversation occurred in Pine Cottage in Ojai, California in July, 2020. The opinions and observations shared are their own.

For an official look at J. Krishnamurti's teachings please visit kfa.org.

To take part in conversations like this one please visit Krishnamurti Foundation in Ojai, California (when we re-open) or during one of our online events.

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Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast.

J. Krishnamurti, Peter Fonda, Theo Lilliefelt, Alain Naudé, Tom Shea, Craig Walker, S. Lloyd Williams, and others participate in a small group discussion in Malibu, California, 1970.

This is the fifth discussion in an eight part series titled Can the Mind Observe Without Comparison?

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In the following episode Mark Lee, author of Knocking on the Open Door, interviews Chandramouli Narsipur about the many years he spent with J. Krishnamurti.

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Welcome back to The Immeasurable Podcast.

J. Krishnamurti, Peter Fonda, Theo Lilliefelt, Alain Naudé, Tom Shea, Craig Walker, S. Lloyd Williams, and others participate in a small group discussion in Malibu, California, 1970.

This is the fourth discussion in an eight part series titled Can the Mind Observe Without Comparison?

Questions or comments? Contact [email protected] 

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