In this engaging episode, Cathy Duffy sits down with Coach Aaron Dower to explore the dynamic relationship between ultra running and life. Aaron shares his inspiring journey from a youth spent playing rugby union in NZ to becoming a celebrated ultra trail runner, delving into how his competitive spirit and discipline from earlier sports have shaped his ultra running career.

Listeners will gain insights into Aaron's transition from a demanding corporate life to embracing the tranquility and challenges of ultra trails. Cathy and Aaron discuss the importance of being present, learning from each ultra experience, and how these lessons translate into everyday life. Discover valuable takeaways about patience, consistency, and the profound personal growth that comes from pushing one's limits in this thoughtful conversation.