Nineteen episodes later, Season 10 comes to an end, and we are reflecting on an incredible season. Our themes for the season were the importance of public schools, the power of storytelling, the importance of community, and stamina, and we had 19 incredible episodes going deep on all of those themes, and more. Plus, we had our first ever live show!

Thanks to everyone who makes the Integrated Schools work possible, from our Board of Directors, to our chapter and network contacts, our leadership team, and bookclub moderators, we are so grateful to all of you. Special thanks to Darci and Jennifer for helping out with transcripts for every episode, Sasha and Courtney for help with graphics, and Anna for social media promotion.

 

LINKS: 

S10E9 – The Importance of Belonging with Dr. Shanette Porter

S10E14 – Jim Crow’s Pink Slip with Dr. Leslie Fenwick

S10E15 – Rebuilding The Black Educator Pipeline with Sharif El-Mekki

S10E5 – Taking Just Action for Integration with Richard and Leah Rothstein

S10E3 – There Goes the Neighborhood with Jade Adia

S10E2 – The Demands and Promises of Integration with John Blake

S10E10 – Parenting to Create the World We Want

Send us a voice memo - speakpipe.com/integratedschools

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Dreams really do come true . . . We have wanted to do a live show for quite some time, and finally had the opportunity thanks to The National Coalition for School Diversity, The Century Foundation, and the American Institutes for Research,who invited us to facilitate their event marking the 70th anniversary of Brown v Board. Hosted at the National Museum of African American History and Culture, on the Oprah Winfrey Stage, we were honored to facilitate three panel discussions grappling with the challenges we face today in fulfilling the true promise of Brown. 

Joined by an amazing group of speakers, all deeply committed to doing integration better, we brought the nuanced, honest conversations you know from the podcast to a live audience for the first time, and hopefully not the last. From the incredible Representative Jim Clyburn, to past podcast guests, Stefan Lallinger and Matt Gonzales, to many others, we are thrilled to share excerpts from the event today. You can also watch the full program.

 

LINKS:

Brown v Board at 70: Fulfilling the True Promise of School Integration - the full event video

Speaker Bios 

Stefan Lallinger on our show - S7E3 – Generational Work: Stefan Lallinger on Integration

Matt Gonzales on our show - S5E12 – COVID-19: Matt Gonzales on Equity

The Bridges Collaborative at The Century Foundation

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May 17th, 1954 the Supreme Court handed down its famous decision in the Brown v Board of Education of Topekacase. So much of the work of Integrated Schools is about trying to live into the promises made through that unanimous decision. On May 17th, 1973, a girl was born in Woodbridge, Virginia. That girl, Courtney Everts Mykytyn, would go on to found Integrated Schools in 2015, calling in parents and caregivers with privilege to work towards fulfilling the vision extolled by the court nineteen years to the day before she was born.

Tragically, Courtney was struck by a car and killed on Dec 29th, 2019, cutting short a life full of promise. Not before, however, she had started a movement. All of us at Integrated Schools, from the podcast team, to chapter and networkleaders, to book club facilitators, to social media managers, are here because of her vision, her heart, and her commitment to always working to know better and do better.

To mark this special day we are re-releasing one of Courtney's last episodes of the podcast, originally called "All I Want for Christmas is 3.5%". It beautifully captures her clear-eyed realism, and her unfaltering optimism. She believed that if we can call enough people in, real change is possible, and a better world can await our children, and their children. So, on this special day, we call you in to our work. How can you be part of the 3.5% of people needed to create change? What can you do to join this work? We await you with open arms.

LINKS:

Courtney's Blog post, 3.5%, Gratitude, and Shape-Shifting Reptiles

Dr. Erica Chenoweth's Ted Talk

Matt Gonzales – “White Lips to White Ears”

Dr. Elizabeth McRae on the Mother’s of Massive Resistance

Professor Michelle Adams on Milliken v Bradley and the hope for a multi-racial democracy

Our Brown v Board at 65 Series called "The Stories We Tell Ourselves"

S6E8 – BvB@67 – Rucker Johnson Revisited

S6E9 – BvB@67 – Noliwe Rooks Revisited

S6E10 – BvB@67 – Amanda Lewis Revisited

S6E11 – BvB@67 – David Hinojosa Revisited

S6E12 – BvB@67- Greg and Carol Revisited

The Hechinger Report's Series - Revisiting Brown 70 Years Later

The Civil Rights Project - The Unfinished Battle for Integration in a Multiracial America

Colorlines - Attacks on Public Education Threaten the Legacy of Brown

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In 1954’s Brown v Board decision, the Supreme Court ruled that separate was inherently unequal. However, the Brown II decision a year later said that fixing our separate education system should happen with “all deliberate speed.” The deliberate speed in most places was glacial, leading many local communities to file law suits demanding action. These local desegregation cases happened across the country following similar patterns, but varying due to local contexts. We started with a three-part series on Denver. This is our second deep dive into one of those stories, this time focusing on Charlotte, NC.

In 1971, the Supreme Court ruled in Swann v Charlotte - Mecklenburg Board of Education that, among other things, student assignment policies that involved bussing kids to achieve racial balance was a legitimate remedy for districts violating the mandate of the Brown decision. Eventually embraced by the city, the decision, and the bussing plan it led to, were held up as a model for the country of how to do desegregation right. Business boomed in Charlotte, in part because of the community embrace of school desegregation. Twenty eight years later, in Capacchione v. Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools, the district court ruled that Charlotte-Mecklenburg had complied with the Swan decision "to the extent reasonably practicable", and terminated the desegregation order, declaring it a "unitary system."  Much like many other cities around the country, once the court was no longer mandating desegregation, the district began to re-segregate. Today, with nearly 75% of CMS students identifying as students of color, and massive segregation both racially and socio-economically, the district is struggling to serve all kids well.

Dr. James Ford grew up in Illinois and was bussed through a desegregation plan premised on the Swann decision. While the additional resources this provided were important, he experienced an educational environment that felt unwelcoming, and, at times, outwardly hostile. He made it his life's work to dismantle the systemic racism that caused that harm. Eventually landing in Charlotte as a teacher, he wanted to understand the history of the city and choices made by the people in power that led to him teaching in a highly segregated high school named after the superintendent who had overseen the nationally lauded desegregation plans of the 70s.

His commitment to dismantle racism through the field of education led him to create the Center for Racial Equity in Education, where he serves as the executive director, working to "serve each and every child by also making students of color central to every facet of how schools function." He joins us to share the history of Charlotte, and his current work.

You can support his important work by donating here.

LINKS:

The Center for Racial Equity in Education - CREED

Dr. Ford's Op-Ed on segregation

Swann v Charlotte - Mecklenburg Board of Education

Capacchione v. Charlotte-Mecklenburg Schools

The Dudley Flood Center's North Carolina School Desegregation and Resegregation Timeline

Integrated Schools' local chapters and networks

The Legacy and Philanthropy of Anna T Jeanes

S10E11 - Local Stories of Desegregation: Denver (Part 1)

S10E11 - Local Stories of Desegregation: Denver (Part 2)

S10E11 - Local Stories of Desegregation: Denver (Part 3)

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In 2021, 80% of teachers in our country's public schools were White, while just 6% were Black. That same year, 54% of public school students were students of color, and 15% were Black. We also know of the extensive research showing the positive impacts of Black teachers on all kids, but especially on Black kids. However, as we learned last episode from Dr. Leslie Fenwick, we lost over 100,000 Black teachers in the wake of desegregation attempt, and the Black teacher pipeline was crushed through explicit and implicit government action. In 2019, Sharif El-Mekki founded The Center for Black Educator Development to do something about it. With a commitment to the "deeply subversive act of teaching superbly", they are targeting interventions to increase the number of Black teachers so Black and other disenfranchised students can reap the full benefits of a quality public education.

Mr. El-Mekki joins us to discuss his work, and explain how it is rooted in a Black educational tradition that stretches back generations. His teaching and leading is informed by his own upbringing attending a Black freedom school in Philadelphia, his experience as a teacher and school leader, and the teacher activists who poured into him throughout his life.

 

LINKS:

The Center for Black Educator Development

Philly's 7th Ward - Mr. El-Mekki's blog

The 8 Black Hands Podcast

Reviving the Legacy of the Black Teacher Tradition - Mr. El-Mekki's TED Talk

S10E14 - Jim Crow's Pink Slip with Dr. Leslie Fenwick

Ep 5 - Interview with a Skeptic - Chris Stewart on our show

The Nguzo Saba

 

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Seventeen years after the Brown v Board decision, in 1971, US Senator Walter Mondale chaired a number of Select Committee hearings on Equal Educational Opportunity. One of these hearings focused on what was happening to Black teachers and principals as the country begrudgingly worked to desegregate our schools. The hearing featured testimony and supplemental documentation calling attention to the vast number of Black teachers who were losing their jobs in the Southern, dual-system states. Despite Brown's promise of desegregated schools including faculty and staff in addition to students, districts across the South were finding ways to remove Black teachers and principals, rather than allowing them to teach White kids. 

The transcripts from these hearings quite literally fell into Dr. Leslie Fenwick's lap as she began a PhD program in educational policy. The stories they held matched her own lived experience. Stories of highly qualified, highly educated Black teachers who served as community leaders, and fostered a sense of belonging and empowerment among their Black students was what Dr. Fenwick and her parents and grandparents had known. And yet, as she embarked on her PhD program, these stories weren't being told. Eventually, these transcripts would form the primary evidentiary basis for her bestselling 2022 book, Jim Crow's Pink Slip: The Untold Story of Black Principal and Teacher Leadership. 

She joins us to talk about the book, her journey to writing it, and what understanding this untold history means for the ongoing quest for more teachers of color. 

 

LINKS: 

Jim Crow's Pink Slip: The Untold Story of Black Principal and Teacher Leadership  

Transcript for the Senate Select Committee Hearing on the loss of Black Teachers

Dunbar High School - Washington, DC

Sumner Academy of Arts and Science - Kansas City, MO

The Summer of Soul documentary

Whitey On The Moon - Gil Scott-Heron

Sharif El-Mekki - The Center for Black Educator Development

 

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PART 3 of 3

In 1954’s Brown v Board decision, the Supreme Court ruled that separate was inherently unequal. However, the Brown II decision a year later said that fixing our separate education system should happen with “all deliberate speed.” The deliberate speed in most places was glacial, leading many local communities to file law suits demanding action. These local desegregation cases happened across the country following similar patterns, but varying due to local contexts. We are going to dive into several of these local stories in the coming months, and we are starting today with Denver, CO.

In 1973, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the plaintiffs in Keyes v. Denver Public Schools, requiring Denver to desegregate its schools. This led to 21 years of court ordered desegregation, including through the use of busing. A local educational advocacy organization, Park Hill Neighbors for Equity in Education, recently hosted an event to commemorate the anniversary and reflect on the promises made at the time of the case, and the ways we have failed to live up to them.

Over the course of three episodes, we will be bringing you audio from that event. Our hope is that by understanding local stories, we can see national themes emerge that may help chart a path forward.

If you have a local story of desegregation to share, let us know! Record a voice memo and email it to [email protected], or visit Speakpipe.com/integratedschools.

LINKS:

A video of the full event – Integration and Equity in DPS 50 Years After Keyes

Park Hill Neighbors for Equity in Education’s website – PHNEE.org

The slideshow from the event

Comments from the participants at the event

Pat Pascoe’s book – A Dream of Justice: The Story of Keyes v Denver Public Schools‘

Tomàs Monarrez on our show - S7E4 – Redrawing the Lines: Undoing the History of Segregation

EPIC Youth Theater on our show

S6E2 – EPIC’s “Nothing About Us”: Youth Theater on Integration

S9E10 – Between The Lines: An EPIC Comeback

S5E4 – All I Want for Christmas is 3.5%

Rucker Johnson’s book – Children of The Dream

A visual timeline of the Keyes case prepared by Laura Lefkowits

Andrew on Brother Jeff’s show talking about Integrated Schools and the event

Milliken v Bradley – which includes Justice Thurgood Marshall’s powerful dissent

Our episode with Michelle Adams about the Milliken case

More resources from PHNEE

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The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits.

This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits.

Music by Kevin Casey.

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PART 2 of 3

In 1954's Brown v Board decision, the Supreme Court ruled that separate was inherently unequal. However, the Brown II decision a year later said that fixing our separate education system should happen with "all deliberate speed." The deliberate speed in most places was glacial, leading many local communities to file law suits demanding action. These local desegregation cases happened across the country following similar patterns, but varying due to local contexts. We are going to dive into several of these local stories in the coming months, and we are starting today with Denver, CO. 

In 1973, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the plaintiffs in Keyes v. Denver Public Schools, requiring Denver to desegregate its schools. This led to 21 years of court ordered desegregation, including through the use of busing. A local educational advocacy organization, Park Hill Neighbors for Equity in Education, recently hosted an event to commemorate the anniversary and reflect on the promises made at the time of the case, and the ways we have failed to live up to them. 

Over the next three episodes, we will be bringing you audio from that event. Our hope is that by understanding local stories, we can see national themes emerge that may help chart a path forward. 

If you have a local story of desegregation to share, let us know! Record a voice memo and email it to [email protected], or visit Speakpipe.com/integratedschools.

LINKS:

A video of the full event - Integration and Equity in DPS 50 Years After Keyes

Park Hill Neighbors for Equity in Education's website - PHNEE.org

The slideshow from the event

Comments from the participants at the event

Pat Pascoe's book - A Dream of Justice: The Story of Keyes v Denver Public Schools'

S5E4 - All I Want for Christmas is 3.5%

Rucker Johnson's book - Children of The Dream

A visual timeline of the Keyes case prepared by Laura Lefkowits

Andrew on Brother Jeff's show talking about Integrated Schools and the event

Milliken v Bradley - which includes Justice Thurgood Marshall's powerful dissent

Our episode with Michelle Adams about the Milliken case

More resources from PHNEE

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The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits.

This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits.

Music by Kevin Casey.

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In 1954's Brown v Board decision, the Supreme Court ruled that separate was inherently unequal. However, the Brown II decision a year later said that fixing our separate education system should happen with "all deliberate speed." The deliberate speed in most places was glacial, leading many local communities to file law suits demanding action. These local desegregation cases happened across the country following similar patterns, but varying due to local contexts. We are going to dive into several of these local stories in the coming months, and we are starting today with Denver, CO. 

In 1973, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of the plaintiffs in Keyes v. Denver Public Schools, requiring Denver to desegregate its schools. This led to 21 years of court ordered desegregation, including through the use of busing. A local educational advocacy organization, Park Hill Neighbors for Equity in Education, recently hosted an event to commemorate the anniversary and reflect on the promises made at the time of the case, and the ways we have failed to live up to them. 

Over the next three episodes, we will be bringing you audio from that event. Our hope is that by understanding local stories, we can see national themes emerge that may help chart a path forward. 

If you have a local story of desegregation to share, let us know! Record a voice memo and email it to [email protected], or visit Speakpipe.com/integratedschools.

LINKS:

A video of the full event - Integration and Equity in DPS 50 Years After Keyes

Park Hill Neighbors for Equity in Education's website - PHNEE.org

The slideshow from the event

Comments from the participants at the event

Pat Pascoe's book - A Dream of Justice: The Story of Keyes v Denver Public Schools

A visual timeline of the Keyes case prepared by Laura Lefkowits

Andrew on Brother Jeff's show talking about Integrated Schools and the event

Milliken v Bradley - which includes Justice Thurgood Marshall's powerful dissent

Our episode with Michelle Adams about the Milliken case

More resources from PHNEE

Check out our Bookshop.org storefront to support local bookstores, and send a portion of the proceeds back to us.

Join our Patreon to support this work, and connect with us and other listeners to discuss these issues even further.

Let us know what you think of this episode, suggest future topics, or share your story with us – IntegratedSchools on Facebook, or email us [email protected].

The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits.

This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits.

Music by Kevin Casey.

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We are fortunate to have many guests whose work is focused on research, policy, and the broader school integration movement. However, we know that most of our listeners are parents and caregivers, and many of our favorite episodes share the perspectives of those raising kids and making decisions about how to show up in schools, in communities, and in the country. Today's conversation with Jon Tobin (and his wife Amanda) is just that - an exploration of how one family continually finds ways to make decisions that reflect their values, that support their kids, and that work to make the world just a bit more just, everyday. We don't hold these parenting conversations up as THE way to live, but as A way to think about the choices we all make as caregivers. Jon and Amanda have a deep belief in the power of community, in the need to be rooted in place, and the need to invest their resources, time and energy into their community. One of the most powerful ways to do that is through supporting their local school. 

LINKS:

Teachers Have It Easy - Dave Eggers

Our founder, Courtney Mykytyn

The Two Tour Pledge

JPB Gerald - Checklists and Merit Badges

 

WE WANT TO HEAR YOUR STORIES ABOUT BROWN V BOARD!!

We are working on a series to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the Brown v Board decision this May. If you have a story of Brown’s impact on your life, or you have an elder who are you are connected to who might have a story tell, please send them our way!! Record a voice memo and email it to [email protected], or visit Speakpipe.com/integratedschools.

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The Integrated Schools Podcast was created by Courtney Mykytyn and Andrew Lefkowits.

This episode was produced by Andrew Lefkowits and Val Brown. It was edited, and mixed by Andrew Lefkowits.

Music by Kevin Casey.

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