Wisconsin Badgers head coach Luke Fickell joins Wilde and Tausch. Discussion of the evolution of the NCAA Transfer Portal, NIL, the outlook for Wisconsin football in 2026, and more.

ESPN NFL Nation reporter Rob Demovsky joins Kyle, Brust & Nortman to break down Matt LaFleur’s contract extension, Jeff Hafley leaving Green Bay for Miami, and what changes could be coming next for the Packers’ coaching staff. Rob also explains why the organization is prioritizing stability, how Ed Policy is approaching his first major decisions, and what this all means for the Packers heading into the offseason.

Former Green Bay Packers offensive lineman Bryan Bulaga joins Wilde and Tausch for his weekly appearance. Discussion of what's next for the Green Bay Packers this offseason - particularly when hiring a new defensive coordinator - and more.

ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter joins Jen, Gabe & Chewy with breaking news, league-wide context, and a blunt assessment of where professional football is headed next — including why an 18-game regular season is no longer a matter of if, but when.

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The segment opens with immediate Packers news, as Schefter provides updates on Green Bay’s defensive coordinator search following Jeff Hafley’s departure. He confirms the Packers are interviewing Christian Parker, Jonathan Gannon, and Durante Jones, and explains why Jonathan Gannon’s poor head-coaching record in Arizona should not overshadow his reputation as a top-tier defensive mind around the league.

Schefter adds that if Brian Flores does not land a head-coaching job, Minnesota is fully prepared to bring him back — and that teams should not hesitate to overpay elite coordinators, especially in today’s NFL where continuity and scheme stability matter more than ever.

🏈 Matt LaFleur’s contract: a real commitment

Schefter then provides clarity on Matt LaFleur’s extension, confirming:

The deal is multi-year

The money is significant

This is not a “patch-it-up” or symbolic extension

In Schefter’s words, the contract signals that Green Bay made a real commitment, not a lame-duck compromise. That said, he delivers an important reality check:

Almost every NFL coach is on the hot seat every year.

Even elite names like Mike Tomlin, Sean McDermott, and John Harbaugh face pressure annually — extensions don’t eliminate expectations.

🔄 Why the coaching carousel exploded

Schefter breaks down why this cycle reached 10 head-coaching changes, noting:

Owners no longer care about eating $30–50 million in buyouts

Franchise valuations make firing staffs financially irrelevant

Teams exist to sell hope, not patience

In what he calls an “ADD world,” patience is no longer rewarded — and coaching stability is far more fragile than fans realize.

💰 The 18-game season: owners already know the answer

The core of the segment centers on Robert Kraft’s comments, which Schefter agrees were essentially the quiet part said out loud.

Schefter explains:

Owners are “hell-bent” on getting to 18 games

One preseason game would be eliminated

A second bye week would be added

The change will be framed as player-friendly

The real driver is TV inventory and money

Chewy offers a blunt hypothetical:

If players are offered more money, fewer preseason snaps, and extra rest, most will say yes.

🧠 What players SHOULD be demanding

Schefter strongly agrees with the show’s central argument:

Players need to think long-term, not paycheck-to-paycheck.

The crew argues players should demand:

Lifetime health insurance

Long-term medical care for all players, not just stars

Real protection for the majority of players who never see generational wealth

Schefter acknowledges the core problem:

The NFLPA lacks leadership, unity, and leverage.

With every vote counting equally — from Patrick Mahomes to a backup punter — owners have consistently outmaneuvered the union.

📉 Injuries, fatigue & football’s breaking point

The conversation turns sobering as they reflect on:

The explosion of ACL and Achilles injuries

Players becoming “walking wounded” late in seasons

The contradiction between player safety messaging and expansion

Schefter admits:

17 games already felt like a lot. 18 is even more.

Yet he reiterates:

It’s coming anyway.

🎓 College football isn’t slowing down

The discussion widens to college football, where:

Indiana played 16 games

The national championship now lands on January 25

The calendar continues to expand with no real offseason

Schefter points out that downtime for players, coaches, and media is essentially gone — and expansion at both levels is accelerating wear-and-tear earlier than ever.

⚖️ The bottom line

Schefter closes with a reality that defines the entire segment:

Owners are organized

Players are fragmented

Fans complain — and still watch

Football ...

Rob Demovsky joins Jen, Gabe, and Chewy to discuss Matt LaFleur's multiyear contract extension, officially inked over the weekend. Demovsky explains the timeline and what comes next for Green Bay as the offseason continues.

Evan Cohen of Unsportsmanlike joins Jim & Molly as they hold it down on Day 5 of Matt LaFleur contract watch! They discuss what Matt LaFleur actually deserves from the Packers — and should Green Bay make him the highest-paid coach in the NFL? Evan also teases that something could be coming soon, and he validates Molly's feelings of doubt in DC Jeff Hafley's stock as a head-coach candidate! The also dive why Evan wouldn't take Matt LaFleur over ANY of the other coaches in the NFC North, how much responsibility falls on the coaching staff vs. roster construction for their playoff flameout, and why the Packers don’t feel as “nasty” or intimidating as their NFC North rivals. Do the Packers need an IDENTITY CHANGE at head coach?

ESPN NFL insider Adam Schefter joins Jen, Gabe & Chewy to unpack the biggest question in Green Bay:

What happens next with Matt LaFleur and the Packers?

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Schefter explains why there’s still no deal between LaFleur and the Packers, despite days of negotiations, and why that means the situation is officially “up in the air.” He lays out how both sides want an agreement, but length, money, and expectations are all potential sticking points.

Topics Schefter dives into:

🏈 LaFleur’s leverage & the coaching market

Why multiple teams would have interest if LaFleur hit the market

How the nine head-coach openings impact his leverage

Why Green Bay has to act quickly before other jobs start filling up

🔁 Could the Packers trade Matt LaFleur?

Schefter walks through past examples of coaches being traded for picks — including Mike Holmgren to Seattle for a 2nd-rounder — and compares that to LaFleur’s potential value in today’s market. He explains why a team might instead choose a coach like John Harbaugh or Kevin Stefanski and avoid giving up draft capital altogether.

⏱️ “We’re on the clock”

Why Schefter believes there is a timeline, even if it isn’t written down

Why, for the sake of everyone involved, a decision should come this week

How the Harbaugh domino could force Green Bay’s hand

💰 The real head-coach money tier

Schefter and the crew talk through the going rate for top NFL coaches:

Why “yesterday’s prices are not today’s prices”

How salaries for guys like Andy Reid, Sean Payton, Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh set the market

Why hiring an elite coach now means paying well into eight figures per year

🧠 How the league views Matt LaFleur

Schefter shares that a “very, very respected” NFL voice told him LaFleur is viewed as a top-5 head coach in the league, especially as an offensive mind. That perspective may not match how some Packers fans feel right now, but it absolutely shapes his market and the way other teams would pursue him.

The segment wraps with Schefter drawing a parallel between his own house being under construction and the Packers being “under construction” too — and why everyone needs clarity so they can move on, one way or another.

🎧 Inside info, real timelines, and an honest look at LaFleur’s value across the league — only with Adam Schefter on Jen, Gabe & Chewy.

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ESPN NFL Nation reporter Rob Demovsky joins Jen, Gabe & Chewy to unpack the Packers’ most important offseason decision: Matt LaFleur’s contract.

After reports surfaced that Green Bay is expected to try to work out an extension in the coming days, Demovsky explains why the wording matters — and why this situation is far from a slam dunk.

Key insights from the segment include:

🏈 Why the Packers want stability

Demovsky references Mike Holmgren’s belief that quarterback success depends on coaching continuity — and why the Packers may feel keeping LaFleur is the best way to maximize Jordan Love’s prime years.

💰 Why this could still fall apart

Rob outlines multiple realistic scenarios:

The Packers offer an extension they know LaFleur won’t accept

LaFleur demands top-of-market money he knows the team won’t meet

Both sides “try” but leave themselves an exit

In Rob’s words, both sides still have an out.

⏱️ The clock is ticking

Demovsky stresses that this decision can’t drag on:

Coaching candidates are already interviewing

Waiting past midweek risks losing leverage

A stalemate by Wednesday or Thursday would be dangerous

🔄 Jeff Hafley’s likely departure

Rob increases his odds of Hafley landing a head-coaching job to 75%, noting:

Five interviews already completed

Strong interview skills

LaFleur’s own comments suggesting he expects to lose him

🏗️ The power-structure dilemma

The conversation dives into whether Green Bay restores an old-school structure where the GM controls the head coach — and how messy that becomes if done after extending LaFleur.

Demovsky emphasizes that clarity matters as much as commitment:

“If you think he’s the guy, then the money should follow.”

The segment closes with a sobering truth:

Fans may be emotional about Saturday night’s collapse — but players will move on far faster than the fan base. The real decisions now belong to the front office.

🎧 Clear-eyed reporting, real timelines, and inside context on the Packers’ most important offseason question — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy.

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Evan Cohen of Unsportsmanlike joins Jim & Molly ahead of Saturday's Packers vs Bears matchup in the Wild Card! They open with Evan jumping on the roast of Jim's Eminem-esque microphone handling before Evan explains why he put the Packers on his Hot Mess list -- the mounting distractions surrounding Matt LaFleur's future in Green Bay! They also discuss if LaFleur or Ben Johnson has more pressure in this game, what staff changes LaFleur could make rather than losing his job, and is anyone playing out how the Packers could get to the Super Bowl? Jim also explains why feels like both of these teams are "one and done at best", and Evan teases his final score prediction for the game!

It’s Friday, and that means a free-flowing, wide-ranging conversation — this time diving well beyond the Packers.

In this segment, Craig Karmazin joins Jen, Gabe & Chewy for a thoughtful and occasionally hilarious discussion that touches everything from Hail Mary officiating controversies to why college football culture almost never translates to the NFL.

🏈 The Hail Mary problem

The conversation opens with frustration over how Hail Mary plays are officiated differently than every other snap:

Why obvious pass interference goes uncalled

Why officials suddenly change standards at the end of games

Whether teams deserve “one more play” when a receiver is clearly grabbed

The group compares it to controversial late fouls in college basketball and debates whether outcomes should be decided by rule exceptions.

🚫 Targeting & intent

Craig explains why targeting rules are so difficult to enforce:

Intent is nearly impossible to judge at full speed

Player trajectory can’t change instantly

Why punishing players for physics creates bad outcomes

The takeaway: player safety matters, but the current rule often fails both players and fans.

🎓 College vs NFL coaching — why culture fails

The discussion shifts into one of the strongest takes of the segment:

Culture matters far more in college than it ever will in the NFL.

Craig explains why:

College coaches mold teenagers

NFL coaches manage fully formed professionals

Ego count jumps from 6 to 53 overnight

They debate Dan Lanning, Kurt Cignetti, Nick Saban, and why even legendary college coaches struggle when they try to make the jump.

🧠 Why the NFL is a different sport

Craig argues that NFL success is less about culture and more about:

Scheme adaptability

Ego management

Quarterback alignment

Willingness to pivot

Tom Coughlin is used as an example of someone who succeeded only after changing his personality.

🍻 Bonus Friday chaos

The segment also includes:

Chewy’s monthly bourbon hour

Bears fans being the most annoying fans in Wisconsin bars

Why Packers fans don’t need to announce themselves

Lighthearted banter that reminds listeners this is still Jen, Gabe & Chewy

🎧 Smart debate, strong opinions, and classic Friday energy — only on Jen, Gabe & Chewy.

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