The Iron Fist and the Velvet Glove

In this episode we discuss:

(00:00) 401

(00:28) Intro

(02:41) Spy Balloons

(08:34) Nuclear Power

(11:32) Scomo is Right!

(14:32) Joe Rogan is a dating red flag

(19:49) Patrons

(20:42) Friends of School Chaplaincy

(21:43) Can Polls be trusted?

(29:29) Michael Mansell

(35:30) Islamic Voice Thought Experiment

(48:08) Libya

(56:10) Uyghurs

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Official Chinese Statement from 7 months ago

The airship is from China. It is a civilian airship used for research, mainly meteorological,

purposes. Affected by the Westerlies and with limited self-steering capability,

the airship deviated far from its planned course. The Chinese side regrets the

unintended entry of the airship into US airspace due to force majeure.

The Chinese side will continue communicating with the US side and properly

handle this unexpected situation caused by force majeure

In this episode we discuss:

(00:28) Intro

(03:40) Reflections

(23:52) Rock N Roll Culture

(26:42) Feedback

(33:43) Essential Poll

(37:26) Rundle on The Greens

(40:31) Tim Gurner

(45:36) Joe Rogan

(48:58) Thank You Patrons

(53:23) Wrapping Up

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In this episode, we discuss:

The Voice

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In this episode we discuss:

(00:00) Intro

(04:50) Echidna Strategy

(17:44) Brics

(21:52) Newspoll

(28:38) Property Stuff Again

(35:22) Media and Propaganda

(49:23) Ukraine Update

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In this episode we discuss:

(00:00) 397

(00:28) Intro

(05:55) Plane Crash

(07:25) Labor Against war

(09:41) Republican Candidates

(13:14) Adelaide Council

(15:43) Religious Financial Reporting

(18:06) Guy Rundle on Labor

(21:34) Why Australian Property is Overpriced

(39:18) Property in China

(45:25) New Zealand Foreign Policy

(50:37) Vivek Ramaswamy

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In this episode we discuss:

(03:54) AI Prayer

(12:20) Franklin River

(15:53) Decoding The Gurus

(18:15) Adelaide mayor

(22:53) Catholic Hospitals

(27:31) Factions

(45:11) Counter Offensive

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In this episode, friend of the show Liam joins us to debate with Scott as to why he stubbornly refuses to vote for The Greens despite aligning with their policies.

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In this episode we discuss:

(00:00) 394b

(00:43) Intro

(05:31) Secular Agenda Podcast

(06:31) Global Temperatures

(08:54) Census Question

(15:26) Trump

(25:35) The Voice - Another Poll

(29:22) Episode 99

(37:49) I Recommend Episode 213 plus The Voice issues

(01:04:02) Farewell Till Next Week

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In this episode we discuss:

(00:00) 398

(00:43) Intro

(10:31) Global Warming

(14:13) Newscorp and AI

(16:38) Sinead O'Connor

(20:00) Australia USA Relations

(34:34) Trump Polls

(36:46) Indigenous Education

(48:53) Proposition 209

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In this episode we discuss:

(00:00) 392a

(00:43) Introduction

(05:31) Welcome to Sex

(11:44) Ukraine Diversion

(16:52) PWC Awareness Poll

(22:43) Commonwealth Games Decision Poll

(29:14) Scripture Union DGR Status

(30:46) Albo Doesn't Want to Talk About Subs

(35:21) Alison's Facebook and The Voice

(43:28) The Voice and Culture

(01:06:57) Council's Welcome to Country

(01:08:06) Farewell

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Here is the text of Trevor's thoughts on Indigenous culture.

Blacks say a lot of “we blackfellas” and “you whitefellas” in

statements that emphasize the difference between the two groups.

Sympathetic whites say “them” and “us” and defer to

indigenous claims of being special.

Both of these groups from The Left encourage the idea that Indigenous

people are inherently different to white people.

The truth is that any inherited biological differences are trivial.

The real differences are cultural.

To use a computing analogy. We have the same hardware (DNA).

Some of us use a different operating system (culture).

The discourse around The Voice fails to contemplate that the

operating system of culture is changeable and can be upgraded. Culture is seen

as more legitimate if it is pure and uncontaminated by modern influences. In

Indigenous circles it is given an almost sacred quality beyond rational criticism.

To suggest purposeful cultural change is to commit cultural blasphemy.

The Left has failed by refusing to acknowledge the

ideological cultural choices that many indigenous people make. Before speaking

about choice, I’ll make a couple of concessions, namely:

1.      

An obviously black man does not have a choice

when racially discriminated against in a shop or a police station. While race

is a myth, racism isn’t.

2.      

An indigenous person who has grown up in a strict

indigenous culture is not unlike a member of a cult or strict religious

community in the sense that they have been indoctrinated into accepting a

certain way of life. They don’t have much choice either.

But … there are a significant number of indigenous people

who have been exposed to alternative cultures and ideologies who could decide

to curate their cultural values.

For these people, identifying as indigenous and adopting indigenous

culture and values is an ideological choice.

There is nothing wrong with that, but all ideologies are

open to criticism. No ideology is sacred.

The ideas, norms and practices that some indigenous people

choose to adopt are up for debate.

Remember Margaret Thatcher? We can’t criticise her for an

inherent characteristic like being a woman, but we can criticise her

neo-liberal ideology. It’s the same thing.

I see urban elite indigenous leaders like Archbishops. Of

course, there are exceptions, but some broad sweeping generalisations are as

follows:

·      

They want special privileges for their group by

virtue of holding a certain ideology.

·      

They think their members are better than

non-members. Like original sin, white fellas have inherited the guilt of their

ancestors. Black fellas have inherited the noble spirituality of their

ancestors.

·      

They believe all of their members are persecuted

and they rarely acknowledge class differences within their community.

·      

It is their job to accentuate differences with

outsiders.

·      

It is their job to maintain traditional dogma

and values. They are conservative to change as change could threaten their

privileged positions. If cultural change is obviously needed, they will be the

last to accept it. Change leads to assimilation and loss of group identity.

·      

They purport to speak for their members, but

their lived experience is often completely foreign to the most downtrodden

members of their group.

·      

They speak of the common good, but their effect

is to divide our society.

Of course, many indigenous people are suffering. Of course,

we should help them. But maybe, just maybe, instead of blindly encouraging

indigenous culture and identity we should encourage a critique of that

ideology.

Maybe parts of that ideology are to blame for some of the

mess? Maybe humbugging and communal ownership should be dropped from the ideology.

It’s just culture. It’s supposed to change and evolve. Maybe living in remote

areas as a nomadic hunter gatherer made sense 250 years ago but maybe times

have changed and living a sedentary lifestyle, in a remote area, with few employment

prospects, and a social welfare system is not a good combination of

circumstances.

Maybe it is those circumstances and not racism which are

causing indigenous suffering. Maybe the current version of Indigenous culture is

locking people into a hopeless situation? Maybe that culture needs an

adjustment? But that would be blasphemy!

Many rationalists consider it their duty to confront religious

zealots and debate the pros and cons of the religious belief or at least to

debate the ethics of the special privileges they claim by virtue of their

ideology. But on indigenous issues, many rationalists have allowed empathy to overtake

critical thinking. It is possible to sympathise with downtrodden indigenous

people and at the same time, disagree with the solutions demanded by their leaders

who are blinkered by a sacred devotion to cultural dogma.

Proponents argue that The Voice is just another source of information

to help decision makers. How can it be harmful to share more opinions? I have

two reasons.

Firstly, a problem with The Voice is that it is tied to a commitment

to create an advisory group with a racist membership requirement. Past racist policies

do not justify creating new racist policies. The voices of indigenous people

can be heard (and arguably already are) within the spirit of a colourblind

egalitarian community. The benefit of hearing from another group of special

representatives from the victim community is outweighed by the disadvantage of

perpetuating racial division.

It’s a bit like the Indigenous NRL All Star team. Selection is

based on race. The benefit of a good football game is outweighed by reinforcing

racial differences. Can you imagine in the USA, the NBA or the NFL organising a

blacks Vs whites game? It would be howled down as a terrible idea and Martin

Luther King quotes would flood the social networks. Like private school

funding, we do things differently down here, but I digress.

Secondly, indigenous advocates and their white supporters have

been unwilling to critique and modify indigenous culture. The Voice won’t

change that. It will perpetuate the problem. Members of the Voice will view

every problem through the lens of maintaining traditional culture. They will be

precisely the wrong people to give advice.

Next week, Argument 2 – Historical suffering - Inherited land

rights, inherited grievance and inherited guilt.

The week after, - Contemporary Suffering - it should be

about class.