This week, Konrad breaks down his appearance on the Karl Stefanovic Show podcast where he was ambushed by Senator Susan McDonald, the shadow resources minister, in what turned out to be a debate he never agreed to. We go through the full uncut interview, score the political manoeuvers, expose the gas lobby talking points being recycled by politicians, and reveal why this setup was designed to turn a popular policy issue into a culture war distraction.

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