The Legalpreneurs Sandbox

It's easy to get all caught up in the shiny new tech. It's exciting and even a little mesmerizing, but the change it brings, demands and expects has a very real and human face too.

In this podcast, Isabel Parker, Legal innovator, author and LawTech UK panel member closed out the Summit with her timely, important and candid reminder of the need to keep an unwavering focus on our humanity in a human+ legal world.

This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25 October.

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

So much has happened in tech/AI and the legal world in a year! Will 2024 see GenAI being more impactful, less impactful, the same? And where, what, how and when will it impact?

In this podcast, Caryn Sandler, Partner + Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Gilbert + Tobin and CLI Advisory Board Co-Chair gazed into the crystal ball to help you get prepared, and discussed what's next with these legal industry gurus:

• Stuart Fuller, Global Head of Legal Services and Asia-Pacific Regional Leader for Legal Services, KPMG
• Hilary Goodier, Partner and Co-Head, Ashurst Advance, Ashurst and CLI Advisory Board Member
• Uwais Iqbal, Founder, simplexico
• Rajesh Sreenivasan, Head, Technology Media and Telecoms Law Practice, Rajah & Tann Singapore LLP, Director & Co-Founder of Rajah & Tann Technologies Pte Ltd and Rajah & Tann Cybersecurity Pte Ltd, Board Member, Mediacorp Pte Ltd and CLI Advisory Board Member

This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25 October.

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

We don't have the capabilities we need to deliver legal services/products or solutions in a digital world. So what are legal educators doing about this and how quickly can they individually/collectively bridge the gap?

In this podcast, Courtney Blackman, Head of Partnerships at Lander & Rogers discussed how legal education is changing in the face of GenAI with these leading academics and pracademics in law:

• Aaron Baer, Co-Founder and Corporate Law Instructor, 4L Academy
• Stephen Colbran, Head of the College of Law, Criminology and Justice, Dean of Law, CQUniversity
• Ann-Maree David, Executive Director, College of Law Queensland
• Tania Leiman, Professor & Dean of Law, College of Business, Government and Law, Flinders University

This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25 October.

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

Gen AI has reinvented the legal workforce. We're seeing old roles expand, new roles emerge and some disappear too. So how is the legal industry preparing for this? What are the new talent strategies, capabilities, perspectives, retrospectives and yes, everything in between?

In this podcast, Sam Burrett, Legal Optimisation Consulting at MinterEllison explored the new world of legal talent with these fabulous 'people centred' innovators:

• Jan Christie, Director, Capability + Organisational Development, Gilbert + Tobin
• Schellie-Jayne (SJ) Price, Partner, Stirling & Rose and CLI Advisory Board Member
• Nam Truong, Digital + Innovation, Law Squared
• Tessa van Duyn, CEO and Practice Leader, Moores

This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25 October.

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

Resources mentioned in this episode:

• Harvard computer science course for lawyers
• OpenAI prompt engineering course
• An easier way to experience to functionality of semantic search

ChatGPT4 came after ChatGPT1 – getting from 1 to 4 and beyond took time, money, failure, frustration, resilience, agility, collaboration and multidisciplinary teamwork. These factors are all part of experimentation but they're not typically hallmarks of the legal industry. So, how do we get from here to the new digital legal world?

In this podcast, Michelle Mahoney, Executive Director Innovation at King & Wood Mallesons got into the nitty gritty of what experimentation means in legal and how GenAI is encouraging its integration into legal BAU in discussion with this incredible panel of legal experimenters:

• Gary Adler, Chief Digital Officer, MinterEllison
• Danielle Emerson, Senior Legal Transformation Manager, Herbert Smith Freehills
• Elliot White, Head of Innovation & Legal Technology, Addleshaw Goddard
• Dominic Woolrych, Co-founder & CEO, Lawpath

This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October.

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

What is the new and emerging role of regulatory authorities in a GenAI world? Who should be regulated (lawyers and paralegals)? Should the provision of legal services/products/solutions remain a duopoly? Should tech/AI competency be mandated? What does legal professional responsibility mean in contemporary legal practice?

In this podcast, Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation was joined by this outstanding panel and discussed the role of regulation and regulators:

• Matthew Dunn, General Manager – Advocacy, Guidance and Governance, Queensland Law Society
• Catherine Gleeson, Barrister, NSW Bar Council Member and Deputy Chair of the NSW Bar News Committee
• Jeannie Paterson, Professor of Law, University of Melbourne and Co-Director, Centre for Artificial Intelligence and Digital Ethics (CAIDE), University of Melbourne
• Jennifer Shaw, Partner, Bartier Perry Lawyers and Panel Member of the NSW Law Society's Professional Conduct Advisory Panel

This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October.

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

We've heard the stats and see every day the increasing and critical need to improve access to justice. There is much GenAI can do to help but it's not a perfect solution, or is it?

In this podcast, Maya Markovich, Executive Director and Co-founder of the Justice Technology Association and CLI Advisory Board member, analysed and discussed the impact of GenAI in A2J with an amazing panel of community legal sector, pro bono, and low bono specialists:

• Amy Burton, Head of Pro Bono, Mills Oakley and Managing Lawyer, Everyday Justice
• Laura Elliott, Pro Bono Senior Associate, DLA Piper
• Daniel Ghezelbash, Associate Professor, UNSW Law & Justice
• Noel Lim, Co-Founder and CEO, Anika Legal

This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October.

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

Will Generative AI destroy law firms? Only if lawyers are too fixed in their ways to see the possibilities that lie beyond who we've always been and what we've always done.

In this podcast, globally renowned legal commentator Jordan Furlong, Principal at Law21, unpacked the challenges and opportunities of a GenAI-fuelled and human-centred legal world, one that is new, different and completely re-envisioned!

This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October.

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

Generative AI has dominated tech meetings, conversations, debates and demonstrations this year. We've been impressed, intimidated, inspired and disillusioned by the tech, so now almost a year since ChatGPT launched, is GenAI REALLY a game-changer? Is it the ultimate catalyst and influencer? Can it/should it sustain its impact on the legal world through pivotal roles like legal ops?

In this podcast, legal ops legend Mary O'Carroll, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad, Inc. and Co-Founder of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) shared her thoughts, experiences and use cases in response to those questions…as well as launching the Summit!

This episode was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October.

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you'll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

It's been almost a year since ChatGPT launched! For many of us, that opened the door to a new world – new concepts, new terms, confusion, frustration, exhilaration – a whole lot of stuff to understand, implement and manage. We needed guidance but the sort that shines a light on where to go and doesn't require us to build the flashlight first.

It takes a special combination of capabilities to do that, not everyone has them but determining who does, who doesn't, and asking the right questions to engage the right person to assist can be hard, especially in new and emerging areas of expertise. Get the match right, and it can jump a legal business ahead in leaps and bounds. Get it wrong, and it will do the opposite but worse, create a culture of inertia that can last for years.

We spoke with someone who knows all about that, Josh Kubicki, the Co-founder and Business Designer of Bold Duck Studio and author of The Brainyacts Generative AI Newsletter. Josh's deep experience in the legal ecosystem most particularly in advising on, leading, and delivering legal services done differently, qualifies him as someone who knows what it takes to make a contemporary legal business work and who it takes to do that too.

Josh's work in the legal generative AI space is outstanding. He has combined his passion for tech, design, education, writing, and innovation with an entrepreneurial flare to produce a powerhouse of resources (check out The Brainyacts website) - videos, blogs, newsletters, checklists - to help the legal world embrace generative AI.

We spoke with Josh about one of his many projects, the AI Expert Checklist – it's like a mini-CV for your next AI presenter so you can be sure to engage someone who really knows their stuff. In so many ways it typifies the work Josh is doing in this space – pragmatic, thoughtful, insightful, user-friendly, cutting-edge, and ground breaking – we know you're going to enjoy this conversation just as much as we did!

If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this podcast, you'll find the video here.

About the Future 50 Series

In the Future 50 Series we're chatting with legalpreneurs who, through their ideas and actions, are challenging and transforming legal BAU all around the world.

If you would like to recommend people for this Series, please contact us at: [email protected].