Hey! Listen! Ben Lindbergh gets together with three fellow 'Legend of Zelda' lovers—Mothership co-founder Maddy Myers, The Guardian games editor Keza MacDonald, and New York Times reporter Zachary Small—to celebrate the franchise’s 40th birthday. First, Ben, Zachary, and Maddy ask Keza questions about Nintendo and ‘Zelda’ inspired by her new book about the history of Nintendo, ‘Super Nintendo.’ Then, they each share their origin stories as ‘Zelda’ players, and the ‘Zelda’ games they have personal soft spots for. After that, they draft their favorite Links, world maps, items, bosses, dungeons, songs, and companion characters from across the series.

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Guest intros (00:00)
Questions for Keza (11:11)
Draft rules (41:27)
Beginning of draft (45:34)
Draft recap (1:37:29)
Goodbyes (1:41:43)

Host: Ben Lindbergh
Guests: Keza MacDonald, Maddy Myers, and Zachary Small
Producer: Chris Sutton
Additional Production Support: Arjuna Ramgopowell

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