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The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up. In this episode of The Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett continue their discussion about guilt and shame—this time diving deeper into how to recognize, unpack, and move through them.
Chapters
00:00 Mindfulness and Self-Awareness
05:20 The Growth of Understanding Shame
07:38 Empathy as a Cure for Shame
10:04 Guilt vs. Shame: Understanding the Difference
12:49 The Importance of Relationship Repair
22:21 Navigating Grudges and Forgiveness
28:16 Unpacking Regrets and Moving Forward
31:04 Introduction and Overview
31:04 Key Insights and Takeaways
Jarrett offers practical tools for identifying shame triggers and explains how to separate our authentic selves from shame-based self-talk. They discuss how to recognize guilt as an opportunity for growth and connection—especially when paired with honest apologies, remorse, and behavioral change. Billy opens up about his own experiences with perfectionism and ADHD, sparking a thoughtful exchange about authenticity, judgment, and self-acceptance.
Together, they emphasize that healing doesn’t come from avoiding these feelings, but from acknowledging them with compassion and vulnerability. You’ll also hear about the science behind why verbal communication—not texts—is key to true emotional repair, and how simple but intentional actions can make the heavy load of shame easier to carry.
If you're ready to transform guilt into growth and break free from the silence of shame, this episode offers the perspective and tools to start that journey.
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
We love sharing resources and invite you all to level up with us. Below, you’ll find a curated list of standout reads and tools we genuinely believe are worth your time (and money). If you use the links, you’ll also be supporting the Level Up Guys podcast. Thanks for being part of the journey.
Explores how language shapes our emotions, energy, and actions. A must-read for understanding personal transformation through mindset shifts.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/4dn8zPL
Breaks down the science of emotions—how they’re constructed, triggered, and felt. Perfect if you’re curious about the brain-body connection behind what we feel.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3YSnWK2
A deep dive into vulnerability, shame, guilt, and courage. Explores how embracing discomfort can lead to stronger relationships and greater personal power.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3GUEkUi
Encourages radical self-discovery and authenticity. Her take on jealousy as “admiration holding its breath” hits hard—and this book expands on that beautifully.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/45jTUCT
Grounded in emotional intelligence, this one’s not just for parents—it’s a masterclass in guilt, growth, and how to show up better for others (and yourself).
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/4dk66p4
Unpacks the power of self-talk and how to create distance from unhelpful inner narratives. A practical guide to turning mental noise into clarity.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3Flf9cP
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Get to know Jarrett : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jarrett-clayman-framingham-ma/1328337
We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected]. Let’s level up together!
Special thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up. In this episode of The Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett continue their discussion about the powerful emotions of guilt and shame—where they come from, how they shape our behavior, and why they often leave us feeling isolated. Drawing from Jarrett’s clinical experience and Billy’s insights from the yoga and fitness world, the duo unpack how guilt can act as a moral compass while shame targets identity itself.
They explore how shame has been historically weaponized by institutions, families, and social media, and how it can distort our ability to grow or feel worthy of connection. With references to Brene Brown, evolutionary psychology, and personal stories, Part 1 lays the foundation for understanding the deep roots of these emotions—and why distinguishing between them matters.
Whether you’ve experienced guilt for falling short or shame for who you are, this conversation offers insight and validation.
Tune in to begin unraveling the stories we carry and how to start letting go.
Chapters
00:00 Understanding Guilt and Shame
03:27 The Role of External Influences
06:21 Shame as a Tool for Control
09:31 The Evolutionary Perspective on Shame
12:16 Cultural Constructs of Shame
15:27 The Impact of Repressed Shame
18:32 Identifying Shame and Guilt
21:11 The Role of Attachment in Shame
24:22 Understanding Canine Guilt and Shame
27:22 Mindfulness and Self-Awareness
28:21 Introduction and Overview
28:21 Key Insights and Takeaways
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
ResourcesWe love sharing resources and invite you all to level up with us. Below, you’ll find a curated list of standout reads and tools we genuinely believe are worth your time (and money). If you use the links, you’ll also be supporting the Level Up Guys podcast. Thanks for being part of the journey.
Explores how language shapes our emotions, energy, and actions. A must-read for understanding personal transformation through mindset shifts.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/4dn8zPL
Breaks down the science of emotions—how they’re constructed, triggered, and felt. Perfect if you’re curious about the brain-body connection behind what we feel.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3YSnWK2
A deep dive into vulnerability, shame, guilt, and courage. Explores how embracing discomfort can lead to stronger relationships and greater personal power.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3GUEkUi
Encourages radical self-discovery and authenticity. Her take on jealousy as “admiration holding its breath” hits hard—and this book expands on that beautifully.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/45jTUCT
Grounded in emotional intelligence, this one’s not just for parents—it’s a masterclass in guilt, growth, and how to show up better for others (and yourself).
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/4dk66p4
Unpacks the power of self-talk and how to create distance from unhelpful inner narratives. A practical guide to turning mental noise into clarity.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3Flf9cP
Connect With UsListen on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6BJNUL1tZgCH9L0tRNOtQw
Listen on Apple Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/by/podcast/the-level-up-guys/id1788795397
Listen on Amazon https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/4afb7cd0-cc40-44a6-a6ba-d0021dfcb10b/the-level-up-guys
Get to know Jarrett : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jarrett-clayman-framingham-ma/1328337
We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected]. Let’s level up together!
CreditsSpecial thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up. In this episode of The Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett continue their discussion about the impact of words on personal growth and the relationships we build. They dive into the power of self-talk and how the words we choose—whether in moments of guilt, resentment, or jealousy—shape our realities.
Chapters
00:00 Guilt, Values, and Self-Alignment
05:27 The Misconception of the King of the Jungle
05:52 Navigating Small Talk and Energy Exchange
08:22 The Importance of Genuine Interaction
10:45 Customer Service and Authenticity
12:40 The Hierarchy of Communication
19:04 Redefining Jealousy and Resentment
24:32 Taking Responsibility for Our Feelings
26:05 Introduction and Overview
26:05 Key Insights and Takeaways
Through thought-provoking conversations, they explore how language can either propel us forward or hold us back, especially in the context of personal responsibility. Billy and Jarrett break down how we often unknowingly subscribe to societal norms, like small talk, which can drain energy, versus giving energy through more intentional, meaningful interactions. They also touch on how words can redefine emotions like guilt and resentment, encouraging listeners to reframe their perspectives and take ownership of their actions.
Tune in to hear how shifting your language can shift your mindset and help you engage more authentically in your everyday interactions, ultimately enabling you to level up both personally and professionally.
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
ResourcesWe love sharing resources and invite you all to level up with us. Below, you’ll find a curated list of standout reads and tools we genuinely believe are worth your time (and money). If you use the links, you’ll also be supporting the Level Up Guys podcast. Thanks for being part of the journey.
Tony Robbins – Awaken the Giant Within
Explores how language shapes our emotions, energy, and actions. A must-read for understanding personal transformation through mindset shifts.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/4dn8zPL
Lisa Feldman Barrett – How Emotions Are Made
Breaks down the science of emotions—how they’re constructed, triggered, and felt. Perfect if you’re curious about the brain-body connection behind what we feel.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3YSnWK2
Brené Brown – Daring Greatly
A deep dive into vulnerability, shame, guilt, and courage. Explores how embracing discomfort can lead to stronger relationships and greater personal power.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3GUEkUi
Glennon Doyle – Untamed
Encourages radical self-discovery and authenticity. Her take on jealousy as “admiration holding its breath” hits hard—and this book expands on that beautifully.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/45jTUCT
Becky Kennedy – Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be
Grounded in emotional intelligence, this one’s not just for parents—it’s a masterclass in guilt, growth, and how to show up better for others (and yourself).
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/4dk66p4
Dr. Ethan Kross – Chatter: The Voice in Our Head, Why It Matters, and How to Harness It
Unpacks the power of self-talk and how to create distance from unhelpful inner narratives. A practical guide to turning mental noise into clarity.
👉 Get it on Amazon - https://amzn.to/3Flf9cP
Connect With UsListen on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6BJNUL1tZgCH9L0tRNOtQw
Listen on Apple Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/by/podcast/the-level-up-guys/id1788795397
Listen on Amazon https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/4afb7cd0-cc40-44a6-a6ba-d0021dfcb10b/the-level-up-guys
Get to know Jarrett : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jarrett-clayman-framingham-ma/1328337
We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected]. Let’s level up together!
CreditsSpecial thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up.
In this episode of the Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett explore the profound impact of language and words on our reality, relationships, and emotional well-being. They share personal experiences that highlight how the words we choose can shape our perceptions and actions. The conversation delves into the importance of mindful communication, the balance of positive and negative emotions, and the role of language in parenting and personal growth. Through engaging anecdotes and insights, they emphasize the need for awareness in our word choices to foster a more empowering and supportive environment.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 The Power of Words and Language
05:34 Self-Talk and Its Impact
10:26 The Role of Language in Emotions
15:16 Navigating Toxic Positivity
20:29 Redirecting Behaviors Through Language
25:25 Guilt, Values, and Self-Alignment
29:10 Introduction and Overview
29:11 Key Insights and Takeaways
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
Connect With UsListen on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6BJNUL1tZgCH9L0tRNOtQw
Listen on Apple Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/by/podcast/the-level-up-guys/id1788795397
Listen on Amazon https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/4afb7cd0-cc40-44a6-a6ba-d0021dfcb10b/the-level-up-guys
Get to know Jarrett : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jarrett-clayman-framingham-ma/1328337
We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected]. Let’s level up together!
CreditsSpecial thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up. In this episode of The Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett continue their discussion about communication through conflict, focusing on practical tools to handle high-stakes conversations when emotions are running high.
Picking up where Part 1 left off, they dig into how to stay grounded during heated moments and what it means to take space without avoiding the issue. From understanding attachment styles to defining your “relational contract,” this conversation is packed with conflict resolution strategies you can actually use.
You’ll learn how to create emotional safety in relationships through reflective listening, take ownership of your triggers, and use vulnerability as a tool instead of a liability. They also unpack how to speak from your personal experience without turning it into blame—and how to invite your partner into the process rather than push them away.
If you’ve ever found yourself in the middle of a fight thinking, “This isn’t even what we’re really fighting about,” this episode will hit home. Communication isn’t just about what you say—it’s how you show up.
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
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Connect With UsListen on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6BJNUL1tZgCH9L0tRNOtQw
Listen on Apple Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/by/podcast/the-level-up-guys/id1788795397
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Get to know Jarrett : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jarrett-clayman-framingham-ma/1328337
We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected]. Let’s level up together!
CreditsSpecial thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up. In this episode of The Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett continue their discussion about communication through conflict—not just as a life skill, but as a path to personal growth.
They explore how real connection is forged in difficult conversations, and how conflict isn’t something to avoid, but something to work through. With a focus on emotional intelligence, self-awareness, and conscious communication, the guys break down how our reactions, tone, and past experiences shape how we show up when things get tense.
You’ll learn why conflict resolution isn’t about “winning” the argument—it’s about staying present, honest, and grounded when it matters most. Whether you’re navigating communication in relationships, at work, or within yourself, this episode invites you to see conflict as a catalyst, not a crisis—and communication as the bridge that gets you to the other side.
If you’re ready to stop running from hard conversations, press play.
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
Connect With UsListen on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6BJNUL1tZgCH9L0tRNOtQw
Listen on Apple Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/by/podcast/the-level-up-guys/id1788795397
Listen on Amazon https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/4afb7cd0-cc40-44a6-a6ba-d0021dfcb10b/the-level-up-guys
Get to know Jarrett : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jarrett-clayman-framingham-ma/1328337
We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected]. Let’s level up together!
CreditsSpecial thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up. In this episode of The Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett continue their deep dive into love languages. In Part 2, they discuss how love languages can shift over time, the importance of clear communication, and how mismatched expressions of love can create tension in relationships. From the value of intentional gift-giving to the significance of physical touch, Billy and Jarrett provide practical insights and personal stories to help you navigate relationship dynamics with greater awareness. Don't miss this insightful conclusion to their two-part series on love languages.
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
Connect With UsListen on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6BJNUL1tZgCH9L0tRNOtQw
Listen on Apple Podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/by/podcast/the-level-up-guys/id1788795397
Listen on Amazon https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/4afb7cd0-cc40-44a6-a6ba-d0021dfcb10b/the-level-up-guys
Get to know Jarrett : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jarrett-clayman-framingham-ma/1328337
We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected]. Let’s level up together!
CreditsSpecial thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up. In this episode of The Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett continue their discussion about relationships, focusing on the five love languages. In Part 1, they dive into the origins of love languages, developed by Gary Chapman, and explore how understanding these can improve connections with your partner. Billy and Jarrett share personal stories, like Billy’s reflection on his changing need for words of affirmation and Jarrett’s experiences with acts of service and quality time. Tune in for insights on how recognizing your own love language—and your partner’s—can foster stronger, more fulfilling relationships.
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
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Get to know Jarrett : https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/jarrett-clayman-framingham-ma/1328337
We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected]. Let’s level up together!
CreditsSpecial thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up. In this episode of The Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett continue their discussion about anger and why it can be a valuable ally rather than an enemy.
They dive into how early childhood experiences shape our relationship with anger and how unprocessed emotions can impact self-worth and relationships. Billy shares personal stories of navigating anger through physical pain, while Jarrett highlights practical tools like co-regulation, gratitude, and creating healthier meaning-making narratives.
The conversation emphasizes the importance of developing a personal toolkit—whether it’s meditation, movement, or deep breathing—to manage anger constructively. Tune in to discover how embracing your anger can lead to stronger boundaries, improved relationships, and overall personal growth.
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
Connect With UsListen on Spotify https://open.spotify.com/show/6BJNUL1tZgCH9L0tRNOtQw
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We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected]’s level up together!
CreditsSpecial thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
The Level Up Guys explore mental, emotional, and physical health to help you improve your quality of life and level up.
In this episode of The Level Up Guys podcast, hosts Billy and Jarrett dive deep into the complex world of anger. Drawing from their unique backgrounds—Jarrett as a mental health counselor and Billy as a yoga and fitness instructor—they explore the emotional, physiological, and psychological aspects of anger.
From personal experiences to the science behind emotional regulation, they break down the roots of anger, its dual nature as both a primary and secondary emotion, and how it can be harnessed as a force for positive action. They also discuss the impact of childhood experiences on emotional responses and the importance of healthy coping mechanisms for managing anger effectively.
The Level Up Guys podcast is for entertainment purposes only and is not a substitute for professional medical or mental health advice. Please consult a qualified professional for medical advice, and remember to do your own research.
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We’d love to hear from you! Connect with us at [email protected].
Let’s level up together!
Special thanks to the amazing people behind the scenes that make the Level Up Guys podcast possible:
Producer, Moe Murillo – for steering the ship forward, keeping everything on schedule.
Connect with Moe here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mauricio-murillo-capm-csm
Music provided by Remix Live (license free)
Artwork by Billy Batten and Moe.
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The Level Up Guys was created to help people improve their overall well-being by addressing mental, emotional, and physical health in a holistic, approachable way.
We believe everyone…