The Liminalist: The Podcast Between

Epic and long overdue talk with scholar of high weirdness Erik Davis, on the ins & outs, ups & downs of paranoid awareness, self-exploration and cultural examination, & the many different pathways through Chapel Perilous.

Part One: Tightrope Walkers (0 – 33m)

The inner chatter, meeting in Mexico, a gulf in worldviews, the podcast burnout, the lost art of conversation, polarization in the information age, connection across difference, the weaponization of everything, a free speech absolutist, the tightrope walker, emotional traps, attraction-resistance to paranoia, considerations about who to talk to, a big responsibility, what comes with mastery, a pattern of response to pop culture, a curation of a sensibility, who are the listeners, how conspiracy theory is constructed, intellectual ethics, religion and paranoia.

Part Two: From Conspiracy to Complicity (33m – 1 hr 12m)

From conspiracy facts to metaphysical theory, the many wings of chapel perilous, the Aeolus period, excess imbibing of dodgy memes, Jimmy Savile, being liminal, eliciting affect, the harrowing psychological dimensions, social complicity vs. conspiracy, comparing backgrounds, woven into the system, Erik’s father, climate change, a fringe operator in the system, antipathy-affinity for paranoia, circling abysses, infection with paranoid memes, what circles we move in, mimetic creatures, an early blueprint of self-marginalization, disinheriting, an open podcast, the stake for victims, between metaphysical control and human control, a healing journey, a partial rebellion, common sense realism, intense ontological pluralism, what do we know about institutions, Illuminatus.

Part Three: Living in the Shadow (1 hr 12m – 1 hr 40 m)

Ethics and how to move in the world, tiers of control, the CIA uncongealed, a space of connection, a duck in conspiracy waters, the problem with relying on intuition, getting grounded, increased cognitive dissonance, the hidden forces of the unconscious, different levels of consciousness, what controls our actions, high-mountain psychoanalysis, an uncanny way of existing, living in the shadow, consciousness and agency, a manipulation of consciousness, fragmentation of the psyche, embedded in an intelligent creation, a felt sense of the benign, horribly coopted, path of surrender, pluralistic possibility, a demonic Archon, everyday benevolence.

Part Four: Anthropologists of the Bizarre (1 hr 40 m – 2 hr 03m)

Radical acceptance, VALIS in the kibble, the world as temptation system, the path of transgression, doing penance, a scary step, impermeable barriers, Esalen-influenced spirituality, the healing ethic of the 70s & trauma, shamanic dismemberment, the language of trauma, a sense of responsibility, an anthropologist of the bizarre, honoring the scars, the many dimensions of reality, a condition of multiplicity, affirming the wounds, the pure and the impure, Sebastian Horsley & the natural end for nihilism, back to the body, an ability for ambiguity, Strieber & Crowley, a compassionate response.

Part Five: A Relationship with Poison (2 hr 03m – to end)

Abduction experiences, the full demonic control download, the poison path, mistaking element for essence, recognizing colonization, compassionate immanence, the oneness move, a relationship with the damaged, taking on toxicity, proximity to the fallen, transmutation of toxins, remaining in the trouble, the hard edge, age & wisdom, using toxins to detoxify, a dearth of role models, path of service, Erik’s pedagogy, waiting for orders, on threshold, embodied engagement & relating, a commitment to encounter, dropping the mask, human connection, going beyond language, weaving a tapestry, worthy opponents, shared zones.

Return conversation with Recluse of VISUP.

Part One: Left & Right Wings of Geopolitics (0 – 36 mins) The Fabian Society, elites civil war in UK & US, le Cercle, Prisoner of Infinity, two formative experiences, a meeting with the king, dissociation and disembodiment, the question who am I, Chris Knowles, a murky background, an early introduction to conspiracy, an interest in extreme cultures, horror movie immersion, the rise of death metal, cultural priming & the occult, Norwegian black metal, the difference between left & right, a Morgan-Rockefeller dispute, a distortion of liberalism, wolves in sheep’s clothing.

Part Two: How Trump Came to Power (36 – 1:09 mins) Progressive politics & sexual liberation, different occult circles, Julius Evola, the New Right in France, Notre Dam & the Matriarchy, warring elite, political theater, a metagroup, struggle between nations, an experimental aspect of geopolitics, Dugin & Evola, Russian traditionalism, an open-ended project to understand the elite, letting the facts speak, the conspiracy trough, an open approach, Alex Jones’ ideology, a controlled opposition, conspiracy & Trump, JSOC, Delta Forces, Michael Flynn, Keith Kellogg, impeaching Trump, Trump’s revenge-motive, a protégé of Roy Cohn, a mob president. 

Part Three: A Network of Honey Traps (1:09 – 1 hr 41 mins) Going after organized pedophile rings, Thomas Corbally in Hollywood, after Jimmy Savile died, when the institutions tremble, complicity with conspiracy, the Profumo scandal, the Stephen Ward ring, Lord Mountbatten, the Astor family, Corbally, JFK in UK sex ring, Savile-Kray twins honey trap, Kincora boys home, Colin Wallace, the IRD, Edward Heath, Brian Crozier, David Owen, the Social Democrat Party, Roy Jenkins’ progressivism, Blair’s New Labor, CND & ASC, the Coalition for Peace & Security, Scallywag, Edward Leigh, Lord Chalfont, a Satanic pedophile.

Part Four: A Process of Self-Discovery (1 hr 41 mins to end) Crowley’s blackmail sex parties, intelligence and occultism, how far back does it go, the Praetorian Guard, the cornerstone of global intelligence, a sympathy for the occult, Opus Dei & Knights of Malta & pedophile rings, a metaphysical element, a spiritual war, Crowley vs. Evola, the metaphysics of the whip, Crowley’s homosexual sex magick, traumagenesis, the thin end of the transhumanist wedge, psychopathic gurus, teaching through research, growth through human relationship, providing a public service, a process of self-discovery, attracting collaborators, moving into the personal, the pressure of keeping silence.

VISUP blog.

Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange; "Promenade" & "Look Out" by My Jacket is Yours; "Paloma" by The Upsidedown; “These Words” by Hazelwood Motel.

1: Culture Good & Evil (0 ­­- 18 mins) Deadwood, love between men, VALIS in kibble, fanbases, art as perception management, letting go of hope, Dave Oshana, the UFO puzzle & American Cosmic.

2: Love in the Mud (18 – 41 mins) D.W. Pasulka & Whitley Strieber, a cognitive problem, networks of manipulation, copies of a counterfeit, cart before horse syndrome, Deadwood again, the parts of the body, the spark of true compassion, Prisoner of Infinity, gaging the honesty of the transaction.

3: Holographic Elephant (41 – 57 mins) Tyler D.’s true identity, the invisibles, an orchestrated disclosure event, decriminalizing psilocybin, lured into belief, the construction of an interpretation, divine technology, quantum indeterminacy, materialized spirituality, the shape of the Trojan Horse, the end game.

4: Transhumanist Fart (57 mins – end) Identification of the original counterfeit, a movie of the mind, mind expansion vs mind dissolution, a narrative of hope to fool everyone, an Earth-enema, invested in the Techno-Utopia, an email from Zach, the problem of dynamism, a process of becoming conscious, shedding layers of delusion, moving away from the collective, the three raptures, AI = alien invasion, a voice in the wilderness.

Songs:  “Buried Treasure” by Grant-Lee Phillips; “Eyes of Despair,” by The Silver Chords; "Man Comes around" cover; Марина by POVALISHIN DIVISION; “Slippershell,” by Kristin Hersh

Also this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svVsZZJ1wZE

Conversation with Camille Blinstrub

Part One: An Evenly Distributed Childhood (0 - 36 mins)

Arriving in London, the Stan Kenton band, the British jazz scene, an evenly distributed childhood, Capitol Records, a fusion of jazz and classical, Max Jones & Melody Maker, Miss Lambert’s School, when Kennedy was killed, when the Beatles took over the US, Larry Adler and the Thursday Club, trafficked for music, close to the action, Tony Benn, Casablanca Records, smoke-filled parties, Mort Sahl’s obsession, California occult.

Part Two: Masters of War (36 mins - 1 hr 5 mins)

Sammy Davis Jr., children and culture, a personal devil, a metaphysical conspiracy, original sin, exposing the works of darkness, agents of abuse, the culture of blame, the power of seeing, demonic voices, chief of sinners, destroying the works of darkness, many traps, too many rocks, revelation of the method, regicide, the British invasion, Masters of War, designing a Baby Boom, trauma impact and controlled dissociation via the Beatles, Kennedy coup.

Part Three: The Lemming Factor (1 hr 5 mins – end)

Social engineering micro and macro, scheduled mass events, a cartoon conspiracy, a combination of opposing perspectives, the lemming factor, Painted Black, Rene Girard & mimesis, traumatizing and culture-making, individual stories, witchcraft central, the American Beats, London in the 1960s, Jimmy Savile, the Krays, an occultist spectrum, Wicca & satanism, meeting Satanists, a psychic run-in with the Manson family, an LSD overdose.

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Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange; "Occupy" by Telephone; “These Words” by Hazelwood Motel.

Outtakes:

https://boxes.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/wp-content/uploads/Camille2.mp3

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Part One: A Rock n’ Roll Kid (0 – 28 mins)

The controlled counterculture, facts and theory, Blues Heaven Foundation, writing about music in Chicago, “Occult Yorkshire” and Fabian Society, researching Satanic Ritual Abuse, (11 min edit) a rock n’ roll kid, London 1963, talking to William Ramsey, dealing with youngbloods, Jan Irvin, accusations of being a shill, Satanism in America, Mike Warnke, Peter Levenda, what prints out.

Part Two: Eyes Wide Open (28 mins - end)

Finding faith, meeting Led Zeppelin, something evil, Robert Plant & Jimmy Page, the light & the dark, the Holy Order of MANS, Peter Grant, a Rolling Stone article, meet Plant again, eyes wide open.

Songs: "Angel-Headed Hipster" by Tenspeedracer; "I've Been Riding with the Ghost" by Ohia

Conversation with Alex Witcombe on encounters with the unfathomable aspect of (human) nature.

Part One: The Out of Body Police (0 – 30 mins)

Attracting the inexplicable, Alex’s abduction experience, out of body experiences, strange vibrations, astral awareness, trouble-free state, an encounter with Baba, multiple selves, a goddess of herbs & dogs, the out of body police, dream of a grey alien, second attention dreaming, something watching.

Part Two: From ETH to Inorganic Beings (30 mins – 1 hr 11 mins)

A presence in the room, physical contact, the scout, a parasitic entity, a cold presence like metal, a lack of complexity, when memory hits, flooded by fear, an ETH guy, a spanner in the works, living with fear, a combination of the unknown with the intimacy, powerlessness, a circular waiting room, a cartoon nurse, an unorthodox haircut, a hole in the neck, Prisoner of Infinity, finding the location of a dream, from ETH to inorganic beings.

Part Three: The End Point (1 hr 12 mins – 1 hr 45 mins)

The Impossible fly, fly-eye contact, going neurotic, a visit from a scaly succubus, star-watching, the main boss, the end point, no more out of body excursions, putting away childish things, physical sensitivity and CFS, grounding techniques, an into the body experience.

Part Four: A Sea of Manipulated Reality (1 hr 45 mins -1 hr 59 mins) 

Why we're here, an escape drive & trauma program, Strieber’s trajectory, a feedback loop, dealing with entities, a human element, socialized inorganics, Prisoner of Infinity’s reductionism, the mind control spectrum, harnessing the power of the psyche, manifestation, a sea of manipulated reality.

Part Five: The Rational and the Irrational (1 hr 59 mins - end)

Comox military base, mind control, organized child abuse & UFOs, alien abduction as a cover for black-ops, split down the middle, open-mindedness as an avoidance strategy, the skeptic’s hat, a team of gangstalkers, rational and irrational, normal & paranormal, including all the elements, the cunning of human beings.

Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange;  “Eyes of the Forrest,” by Bronzed God; “The Plot,” by Malaventura; "Red" by Drakes Hotel; “These Words” by Hazelwood Motel.

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Out-takes of conversation with Alex Witcombe, pre- and post-podcast

Part One: Inter-subjectivity and the Paranormal (0 – 23 mins)

Driving up to the location, Colin’s experience, a history of experiences, a stop in Hope, visit to the thrift store, old lady encounter, a significant event, Gib Strange, Forteana podcasts, Sasquatch hunters, the Bigfoot video, Gib’s theory of the Sasquatch, stories and voices, spotting the fakes, Whitley Strieber, inter-subjectivity and the paranormal, a waking dream, a benign encounter, Trickster energy.

Part Two: An Open Road (23 – 50 mins) 

Smoking marijuana, a chameleon personality, an empathic sponge, unconscious mimesis, Phillip K. Dick’s weak ego, the start of a journey, an open road, the first site, finding the apples, something going on here, second cabin trip, shanty huts & weird vibes, supreme anxiety, how Jasun got to Hope, Strieber again, hearing Whitley’s voice, a to-do with Daniel Pinchbeck, serving malevolent masters, the many contradictions, Dreams End, meeting the Mrs.,