The Liminalist: The Podcast Between

The Liminalist: The Podcast Between

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  • The War on Truth (Liminal Radio)

    This week's Liminal Radio live presentation (aired Saturday May 11 at 11 am PDT, 2 pm EDT, or 7 pm UK) is called "The War on Truth."


    The reason being that I am mad as hell right now and choose to make no bones about it, but to make soup instead.


    I will talk about twenty + years, navigating the labyrinth of worldly communications and identifying the conveyors of misinformation, disinformation, and delusion, and how the addiction to knowledge leads to possession by & service to a diabolic counterfeit. 


    As lies proliferate, like flies, they replicate and become exponentially greater in numbers, a buzzing black fog that is impossible to move through without a powerful impulse to barf. The counterfeit of MK-culture is like the false self: generated by trauma, rage, and despair, it imitates (our) nature even while sneakily attempting to supplant it.


    As the stench gets thicker with every passing fake, it gets harder and harder to make it through this wall of f-lies and  be heard—every time we open our mouths they fill up with filth—the temptation (the one we never heard about Jeshua refusing) is to give into rage and despair and hit back.


    I am mad as hell, yes, but I am going to keep on taking it for now, because rising up in angry defiance of the lie risks only validating the lie’s power to control my behaviors. So in the war between truth and lies, how do we fight without going over to the other side?


    The secret is found in words of the Gospel, Resist not evil, Turn the other cheek, and Love thine enemies: because it will be as hot coals on their frikkin' heads!


    Vengeance is mine, sayeth the Lord. Meanwhile, Render under God what is of God (love and compassion), and unto Caesar what is of Caesar (rage and despair), and let him choke on it.


    The bittersweet PIL is that anger is an energy, one that, like the sword, cuts both ways, and that even "J.C" blew his stack now & then. We can either own our anger, or let it possess us.


    The difference between the two is as fine a line as Johnny Cash ever walked.


    This show will be archived at this page once it has aired. Unless it's really crap.


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    1 hr 50 min
  • The Ghost of Peter Sellers (Liminal Radio)
    This week on Liminal Radio I discussed Peter Sellers’ best and least known film role, as a hungry ghost in Hoffman (1970), trauma, charismatic alters, lost souls in celluloid bardo realms, and how evil is the expression of the suffering of an inability to love. Synopsis of Hoffman here. Archive of last week’s show, TECHNO-LOGOS: ... Read moreThe Ghost of Peter Sellers (Liminal Radio)
    1 hr 34 min
  • The Ghost of Peter Sellers (Liminal Radio)

    This week on Liminal Radio I discussed Peter Sellers' best and least known film role, as a hungry ghost in Hoffman (1970), trauma, charismatic alters, lost souls in celluloid bardo realms, and how evil is the expression of the suffering of an inability to love.


    Synopsis of Hoffman here.


    Archive of last week's show, TECHNO-LOGOS: PARALLEL LIVES, HIDDEN FORCES, HIVE MINDS

    1 hr 34 min
  • The Liminalist # 196: Naturally Liminal (with Dave Oshana)
    Part two of return conversation with Dave Oshana, on surfing the wave of life. Part One: A Room without Shadows (0 – 34 mins mins) Dissembling, the false identity’s hold, pattern interruption, pain and drama management, asking to be blasted, attention-seeking mechanisms, capitulating to addiction, mistaken salvation, seeking a better dream, a mental idea of ... Read moreThe Liminalist # 196: Naturally Liminal (with Dave Oshana)
    2 hr 2 min
  • The Liminalist # 196: Naturally Liminal (with Dave Oshana)

    Part two of return conversation with Dave Oshana, on surfing the wave of life.


    Part One: A Room without Shadows (0 – 34 mins mins)


    Dissembling, the false identity’s hold, pattern interruption, pain and drama management, asking to be blasted, attention-seeking mechanisms, capitulating to addiction, mistaken salvation, seeking a better dream, a mental idea of awakening, the displeasure of body awakening, awakening vs. enlightenment, when consciousness comes back to the body, a dream body, a spectrum of somnambulism, pain after enlightenment, when dreams recede, the matrix-mind, running commentary visible & invisible, being outside of the body, enlightened seeing, a room without shadows, a light inside, the neurons in the brain, compensatory communication, reducing the noise, the wave of life, how we know when the Sun is out.


    Part Two: The Path of Fire (34 mins – 59 mins)


    If enlightenment went away, let’s try this anyway, the river, a specific approach, a spiritual teacher, a sharable life change, conveying enlightenment, a self-contained feeling, practicing hygiene, the question of maintenance, a certain trajectory, the path of fire, a force of nature, how much you can handle, putting oneself in the line of fire, Christians vs. anarchists, being cooked, two football hooligans, camaraderie on the battlefield, mutual challenges, Jasun & Dave's different audiences.


    Part Three: Where Communion Happens (59 mins to 1 hr 35 mins)


    What people want, parallels with John de Ruiter, aligning with the Sun, conformed by the light, trying to get close to the father surrogate, Dave & John, being a proxy, Oshana-flavored ice cream, a Valhalla of infamy, new ways of communicating, trial, error, & consent, allowing for discovery, marching clones, room for experimentation, ego vs. life force, the poster boy for reckless autonomy, critical voices, the need for engagement, the art of conversation, venting on social media, where communion happens, doing away with fans, co-opted words, Christian trolls, being open to everyone, talking to evangelicals, the disillusioned, seeking collaborators, naturally liminal, for Christian listeners, simpatico with Jesus, a new New Testament, a punk Jesus, clerical errors, all the way back to Jerusalem, who was Peter, Jordan Peterson on the fence.


    Part Four: Jiving About Jesus (1 hr 35 mins - end)


    Who is Jesus to you, the Jesus legacy, the Merovingians, the need to deliver, the question of resurrection, the Jesus vibe, the archetype & the man, the Christian audience, how to interpret the Bible, unnecessary literalizing, leading people through distortions, bypassing belief, what can be discerned, tribalism & religion, the Procrustean trap, having to believe to be saved, pledging allegiance to a guru, group dynamics/social control, slave labor ideologies, toxic culture, the weak bladder principle, an Easter event, another free event, movers & shakers, an Oshana thrift store appearance.


    Dave’s site.


    Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange; "Russian Beach Heycaluca" & "Leaving the Home Tribe" by Party People in the Can; “Whiskey Boots of Snake” by The UpsideDown; “O My God My Dick’s On Fire” by Paul Wild; “These Words” by Hazelwood Motel.


     

    2 hr 2 min
  • The Liminalist # 195: Crossing the Threshold (with Dave Oshana)
    Part One: Identifying the Audience (0 – 25 mins) Theory of audience mind, introducing Dave to auticulture, a collection of individuals, responding to feedback, telegraphed needs as interferences, in thrall of a nightmare, differing aims, honing in on listeners, in disguise as a spiritual teacher, a Trojan Horse & monkey wrench, punk or rock & ... Read moreThe Liminalist # 195: Crossing the Threshold (with Dave Oshana)
    2 hr 8 min
  • The Liminalist # 195: Crossing the Threshold (with Dave Oshana)

    Part One: Identifying the Audience (0 – 25 mins)


    Theory of audience mind, introducing Dave to auticulture, a collection of individuals, responding to feedback, telegraphed needs as interferences, in thrall of a nightmare, differing aims, honing in on listeners, in disguise as a spiritual teacher, a Trojan Horse & monkey wrench, punk or rock & roll, Christians choosing denominations, filtering out spiritual seekers, doing a DeNiro, Tuttle in Brazil, punk as social revolt, paranoid listeners, the value of seeing the dark side, seeing past the hoodwink.


    Part Two: The Babel Effect (25 - 55 mins)


    Skepticism about spiritual teachers, no political solution, skeptics & cynics, troll attack, refusing to look at the evidence, resistance to enlightenment, the religious meaning of enlightenment, the pinnacle of evolution, the Hindu personalists, the impersonal expression of God, many flavors of Buddhism, Zen anarchist communes, Buddha as spiritual superhero, claims of celibacy, guru-fixers, Christian enlightenment, Bible stories, impolite conversations, the inclusive religious, what’s going on in a person, trauma-friendly ideologies & crucial fictions, the Babel effect, ideologues ignoring the body, driven into obsession, manifestations of inner pain, getting past language, fake currency, paper money in place of gold, words blocking transmission, an enlightenment tickle stick, wanking off to words.


    Part Three: Locating the Light/Handling the Heart (55 mins - 1 hr 34 mins)


    Enlightenment vs. awakening, bliss dialogues, linguistic mine fields, knowing everything vs. not needing to know, happiness over knowledge, laundering enlightenment, right-left-brain-hemi-sync, illumination, locating the light, the commodification of truth concepts, Saul the bounty hunter, Paul's opportunism & the origins of Christianity, Paul diverging from Jesus, reality checking with others, feedback givers, a potential symbiosis, seeking collaborators, taking risks, Jasun’s changing output, a different emphasis, checking out Dave, coming out of the closet, a truth-test, the difference between collaborators and followers, Mr. Jolly’s perspective, a noisy room, sharing the heart, developing trust, a constant feedback cycle, involved in a mystery, an enlivening perspective, the enlightenment transmission, a gathering of trainspotters.


    Part Four: Parallel Streams (1 hr 34 mins - end).


    Parallel streams, making something visible, synchronicities, striking unexplained overlaps, the bigger picture, different levels of illumination, different angles of perception, a broad roof for the autistic spectrum, rules of connection, a changing policy at Auticulture, caring intolerance, keeping a garden, learning by imitation, anti-gurus by proxy, levels of trust, Jasun not-getting it, rapid results & big changes, why Jasun stuck with Dave, whittling down misconceptions, rubbing off barbs, seeking truthfulness, people who come for the experience, collecting for enlightenment, the fraudulence of techniques & methods, crossing the threshold, making an intervention, always an intermission,bringing participants together, a single tributary, joining the dance, each person’s transmission, Vulcan chess on three different levels, communion in church, obstructing Dave’s trajectory, giving mixed messages, listening to the person’s body, a paper-thin veneer, stickability, when the earth erupts.


    Dave's site.


    Songs: “Knob Wobbler,” by Gib Strange; “This Life Gives Force,” by Richard Youngs; “Deep diving, new age crap III,” by Party People in the Can; "Erased" by 

    2 hr 8 min
  • Liminal Livestream Radio
    This is now happening. This is the site for the weekly show. This is the next event (Sat. 27th April, 11 am PST, 2 pm EST, 7 pm UK time) To attend, sign up for a Mixler account (free) and you will have the options of live chat. For notifications for future events, hit the ... Read moreLiminal Livestream Radio
    1 hr 22 min
  • Liminal Livestream Radio

    This is now happening.


    This is the site for the weekly show.


    This is the next event (Sat. 27th April, 11 am PST, 2 pm EST, 7 pm UK time)


    To attend, sign up for a Mixler account (free) and you will have the options of live chat. For notifications for future events, hit the "Follow" button on the main page for Liminal Radio.


    After-event Zoom video meets will only happen if at least seven people sign up beforehand. If you are interested, register (for free) via the widget on the top right hand of this post.  

    1 hr 22 min
  • The Liminalist # 194: The Many Cults of Culture (with Gib Strange)
    One more casual conversation with Gib Strange, on cults, autonomy, and enlightenment, Part One: Mimesis Good & Bad (0 – 28 mins) Energetic experiences of Dave, the context of “enlightenment,” the theory of collective mind, defining the inexpressible, what’s different about Dave, accidentally being somebody you’re not, under the laser-beam, mannerisms exposed, actors as people ... Read moreThe Liminalist # 194: The Many Cults of Culture (with Gib Strange)
    1 hr 25 min

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