The Long Game

The Long Game

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The Long Game episodes

  • Kitchen Side: Our Attempt at Ghostwriting Thought Leadership Content

    You don’t have to look far to hear that “thought leadership” matters in 2023. But what does it take to do it well and in an authentic way? In this conversation, we chat about the best — and worst — ways to approach building that authority.

    Topics

    • Finding the balance between editorial content and optimization
    • Writing for yourself is not the same as writing for others
    • Unlearning writing only for SEO
    • Optimize and opinionate content
    • Different way to look at bad content
    • Chicken and egg problem
    • What really is the goal of content?
    • Good SEO strategies take time to mature
    • Why physical content is still important

    Show Links

    • Connect with Alex on Twitter or LinkedIn
    • Connect with Allie on Twitter or LinkedIn
    • Connect with David on Twitter or LinkedIn  
    • Connect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or Twitter
    • Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast

    What is Kitchen Side?

    One big benefit of running an agency or working at one is you get to see the “kitchen side” of many different businesses; their revenue, their operations, their automations, and their culture.

    You understand how things look from the inside and how that differs from the outside.

    You understand how the sausage is made. 

    As an agency ourselves, we’re working both on growing our clients’ businesses as well as our own. This podcast is one project, but we also blog, make videos, do sales, and have quite a robust portfolio of automations and hacks to run our business.

    We want to take you behind the curtain, to the kitchen side of our business, to witness our brainstorms, discussions, and internal dialogues behind the public works that we ship.

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    45 min
  • Office Hours: Building SEO Growth Loops with Kevin Indig

    Before you know it there’s another SEO “growth hack” going around. But, like all trends, they come and go. Few strategies survive the test of time. And few people know them like Kevin Indig (ex-Shopify). In this Office Hours workshop, Kevin peels back timeless principles for how your growing company can approach SEO.

    Topics

    • Scaling SEO
    • Integrators vs. Aggregators
    • Growing your marketplace
    • Aggregator and integrator approach to SEO
    • SEO Growth loop
    • Compounding effects of self-reinforcing growth loop
    • Self-reinforcing growth loop
    • How to compete in SEO

    Show Links

    • Connect with Kevin Indig on LinkedIn and Twitter

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    28 min
  • Upcoming Trends in Marketing According to Futurist Mark Schaefer

    Marketing: the more it changes, the more it stays the same. For every new buzzword that blows up on Twitter, there are as many timeless principles about how to succeed. 

    Mark Schaefer is a globally-recognized author, keynote speaker, futurist, and business consultant who blogs at Businesses Grow — one of the top five marketing blogs of the world. He has spent his entire career learning to separate the signal from the noise in business. 

    In this conversation, we cover whether trends matter, why dirty businesses lose, and how to win in a post-SEO world.

    Show Topics

    • Marketing in the new world
    • Trends come and go
    • Invest in content
    • How to win in a post-SEO world
    • Three criteria Peter Drucker used
    • Flow: the secret to writing
    • Should you pick a niche for your personal brand?

    Show Links 

    • Check out Schaefer Marketing Solutions here
    • Connect with Mark Schaefer on LinkedIn and Twitter

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    48 min
  • Kitchen Side: Should You Create a Glossary as Part of Your SEO Strategy?

    As marketers, it’s natural to want a shortcut to more traffic. And while glossaries offer that alluring promise, stay away from that siren’s song. There’s little upside in the long-run for your customers or your team.

    In this episode of our Kitchen Side series, we rumble through pitfalls to avoid with glossaries and other tactics to try instead.

    Topics

    • What is a glossary?
    • Why do you need a glossary?
    • Should you make blog posts or glossaries?
    • Make most of your glossary
    • Are glossaries worth it?
    • How to avoid cannibalizing content

    Show Links

    • Connect with Allie on Twitter or LinkedIn
    • Connect with David on Twitter or LinkedIn
    • Check out Omniscient Digital

    What is Kitchen Side?

    One big benefit of running an agency or working at one is you get to see the “kitchen side” of many different businesses; their revenue, their operations, their automations, and their culture.

    You understand how things look from the inside and how that differs from the outside.

    You understand how the sausage is made. 

    As an agency ourselves, we’re working both on growing our clients’ businesses as well as our own. This podcast is one project, but we also blog, make videos, do sales, and have quite a robust portfolio of automations and hacks to run our business.

    We want to take you behind the curtain, to the kitchen side of our business, to witness our brainstorms, discussions, and internal dialogues behind the public works that we ship.

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    27 min
  • Product Led-Growth Benchmarks with Sam Richard (ngrok)

    Product-led growth — so hot right now. Sam Richard has helped SaaS companies adopt these strategies during her time at OpenView. Today she is Head of Growth at ngrok, the programmable network edge that adds connectivity, security, and observability to your apps with no code changes. 

    In this conversation, she unpacks how companies of all shapes and sizes can find better ways to grow.

    Topics

    • Find inspiration everywhere
    • What defines product-led?
    • Lean into strengths
    • Stay focused
    • Find your indicator
    • PLG exists on a spectrum
    • Invest in both product and messaging
    • Subscriptions: a tried-and-true revenue model
    • How to find your startup idea
    • When “doing” matters more than “learning”

    Show Links

    • Check out ngrok
    • Connect with Sam Richard on LinkedIn

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    55 min
  • Recent Trends and Building an Audience with Amanda Natividad (SparkToro)

    When creating a personal brand, people often spend too much time on “brand” and not enough time on “personal”. Amanda Natividad, VP of Marketing at SparkToro, has found a way to tell your story in an authentic — and compelling — way.

    In this episode, she dives into how to build a personal brand without losing your soul, why knowing your “why” is the key to building an audience, recent trends, and much more. 

    Topics

    • Test out content ideas at events
    • Refine ideas through feedback
    • Quiet quitting can be good
    • How to build an audience
    • Personal content strategy
    • Try telling your story
    • Act like you belong

    Show Links

    • Check out SparkToro's Audience Research Newsletter! https://sparktoro.com/audience-research-newsletter
    • Follow Amanda Natividad on LinkedIn and Twitter

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    50 min
  • How to Write for Humans, But Optimize for SEO with Maddy Osman (The Blogsmith)

    In business, there’s no way to know everything ahead of time. And while you can’t predict the future, you can influence it by learning the right lessons in the present. Maddy Osman, Founder of The Blogsmith, and author of “Writing for Humans and Robots”, has applied this growth mindset in her own work. Listen to the conversation to hear why it’s good to plan to fail, and how 1 + 1 = 3.

    Show Topics

    • How to plan for problems in your process
    • Build a muscle of helping customers
    • Figure out what you're good at, then using it to your advantage
    • The human robot-buyer dynamic
    • Creative ways to show appreciation
    • Solve for robots and humans

    Show Links

    • Check out The Blogsmith
    • Follow Maddy Osman on LinkedIn or Twitter
    • Grab her book: Writing for Humans and Robots: The New Rules of Content Style

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    47 min
  • Kitchen Side: How Our Thinking of Content Strategy Has Evolved Over Time

    There’s more competition for your prospect’s attention than ever before. That means the bar is higher for each piece of content you create. 

    Winning content means being intentional and deliberate with your strategy. In this episode, we talk about everything from strategy to selection, and how our own thinking of content strategy has evolved over time. 

    Show Topics

    • What to expect when learning a new discipline
    • The importance of strategy in content marketing
    • How content marketing plays into the business strategy
    • Focus on market share (Not revenue)
    • What does content strategy look like?
    • Is content your only option?
    • Content consumption is changing
    • Strategy is a trade-off
    • Common mistakes in strategy
    • Building trust with your target audience
    • What mating theory teaches us about marketing
    • What is a good content strategy?

    Show Links 

    • Connect with Alex on Twitter or LinkedIn
    • Connect with Allie on Twitter or LinkedIn
    • Connect with David on Twitter or LinkedIn

    What is Kitchen Side?

    One big benefit of running an agency or working at one is you get to see the “kitchen side” of many different businesses; their revenue, their operations, their automations, and their culture.

    You understand how things look from the inside and how that differs from the outside.

    You understand how the sausage is made. 

    As an agency ourselves, we’re working both on growing our clients’ businesses as well as our own. This podcast is one project, but we also blog, make videos, do sales, and have quite a robust portfolio of automations and hacks to run our business.

    We want to take you behind the curtain, to the kitchen side of our business, to witness our brainstorms, discussions, and internal dialogues behind the public works that we ship.

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    54 min
  • How to Fulfill Customers’ Needs with CRO with Raphael Paulin-Daigle

    Want to optimize your conversion rates? First, you have to know what’s attracting your customers to your brand. 

    Raphael Paulin-Daigle is the founder and CEO of SplitBase, a CRO agency that works with major D to C and ecommerce brands to improve conversion rates, revenue, and customer experiences. 

    Raphael has walked many companies through the process of optimizing their conversion rates. The key is finding out what your customers truly need—whether they know it or not. 

    In this episode, Raphael explains the difference between A/B testing and CRO, why you shouldn’t always focus on conversion, and how to determine your customers’ subconscious needs.

    Show Topics

    • Go beyond A/B testing
    • Discover customers’ subconscious needs
    • Find out what’s actually important to customers
    • Don’t get hung up on conversion rates
    • Create a better life experience
    • Ask about your customers
    • Value qualitative research
    • Educate others about CRO
    • Cater to short attention spans
    • Understand your customer before you write

    Show Links 

    • Check out SplitBase
    • Follow Raphael Paulin-Daigle on LinkedIn
    • Connect with Omniscient Digital on LinkedIn or Twitter

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    57 min
  • How to Build A High-Performing Marketing Team with Andrew Davies

    It’s an interesting time to be a marketing leader. Your prospects want more value, your teams want more clarity, and your boss wants more ROI. Oh, and you need to do this without growing headcount like you used to. 

    Andrew Davies, CMO of Paddle, has lived this firsthand. He offers timeless advice for how to get more done with less and improve yourself at the same time.

    Show Topics

    • Find what the market needs
    • Winning hearts and minds matters
    • How to align priorities
    • Marketing is a game
    • Building trust
    • Take pride in your work
    • Work On The Business, Not In The Business
    • How To Balance The Two Timeframes of Marketing
    • Set the tone
    • Helpful content wins
    • Self-service matters more than ever
    • Self-serve is the future of sales
    • How Product-Led and Sales-Led Growth Work Together
    • Learning, the ultimate meta skill

    Show Links 

    • Check out Paddle.
    • Follow Andrew Davies on LinkedIn or Twitter

    Past guests on The Long Game podcast include: Morgan Brown (Shopify), Ryan Law (Animalz), Dan Shure (Evolving SEO), Kaleigh Moore (freelancer), Eric Siu (Clickflow), Peep Laja (CXL), Chelsea Castle (Chili Piper), Tracey Wallace (Klaviyo), Tim Soulo (Ahrefs), Ryan McReady (Reforge), and many more.

    Some interviews you might enjoy and learn from:

    Actionable Tips and Secrets to SEO Strategy with Dan Shure (Evolving SEO)

    Building Competitive Marketing Content with Sam Chapman (Aprimo)

    How to Build the Right Data Workflow with Blake Burch (Shipyard)

    Data-Driven Thought Leadership with Alicia Johnston (Sprout Social)

    Purpose-Driven Leadership & Building a Content Team with Ty Magnin (UiPath)

    Also, check out our Kitchen Side series where we take you behind the scenes to see how the sausage is made at our agency:

    Blue Ocean vs Red Ocean SEO

    Should You Hire Writers or Subject Matter Experts?

    How Do Growth and Content Overlap?

    Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:

    Twitter: @beomniscient

    Linkedin: Be Omniscient

    Listen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/

    56 min

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The Long Game shares personal and business success stories where long-term thinking triumphs. Join us for discussions about the frameworks, principles, and learnings that drive success in business.

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