The Long View

Our guest this week is Rick Rieder. This is Rick’s second appearance on The Long View. We last interviewed him in May 2020, and we are happy to welcome him back. Rick is BlackRock’s chief investment officer of Global Fixed Income, head of the Fundamental Fixed Income Business, and head of the Global Allocation Investment Team. Rick also is a member of the firm’s Global Executive Committee, its Investment Subcommittee, and is chairman of the firmwide BlackRock Investment Council. In addition to these duties, Rick manages numerous multi-asset and fixed-income strategies, including BlackRock Global Allocation Fund and a new active exchange-traded fund that the firm recently launched called BlackRock Flexible Income ETF.
 

Background

Bio

“Rick Rieder: Nobody Has Ever Seen Anything Like This,” The Long View podcast, Morningtar.com, May 20, 2020.

BlackRock Flexible Income ETF BINC

Dispersion and Liquidity

“Investors Rediscover the Importance of Getting Paid Back,” by Rick Rieder, blackrock.com, June 21, 2023.

“BlackRock’s Rieder: Grab High Yields on Super-Safe Bonds While You Can,” by Tom Lauricella, Morningstar.com, May 18, 2023.

The Economy and Inflation

“BlackRock Bond Chief Rieder Says U.S. Economy in ‘Much Better Shape’ Than Doomsayers Say,” by Hugh Son, cnbc.com, May 23, 2023.

“The Polyurethane Economy: Flexible and Adaptable,” by Rick Rieder, blackrock.com, Feb. 22, 2023.

“5 Reasons to Call an Investment ‘Time-Out,’” by Rick Rieder, blackrock.com, March 31, 2023.

“The New Inflation Regime,” blackrock.com.

“Fed Chair Powell May Lean Hawkish on Inflation, but Stocks Have ‘Tremendous’ Technical Backdrop, Says BlackRock’s Rick Rieder,” by Christine Idzelis, marketwatch.com, July 26, 2023.

Consumer Spending and Allocation

“Investing in a Changing World: From Carburetors to Compilers,” by Rick Rieder, blackrock.com, Aug. 10, 2023.

“July Jobs Report Shows the Post-Pandemic Labor Market Is Over,” by Myles Udland, finance.yahoo.com, Aug. 4, 2023.

“Rotation to Duration: Seeking a More Resilient Portfolio,” by Rick Rieder, blackrock.com, Aug. 1, 2023.

BlackRock Global Allocation Fund MALOX

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Our guest this week is Bill Nygren. Bill was one of our earliest guests on The Long View, appearing for the first time back in August 2019. Bill is a partner at Harris Associates, which he joined in 1983. There he serves as the firm’s chief investment officer for U.S. Equities and is also the longtime manager of several Oakmark funds, including the Oakmark Fund, the Oakmark Select Fund, as well as the Oakmark Global Select Fund. Bill received his bachelor’s in accounting from the University of Minnesota and his master’s in finance from the University of Wisconsin’s Applied Security Analysis Program. He is also a CFA charterholder.

Background

Bio

“Bill Nygren: ‘A Stock That Doesn’t Look Cheap on the Surface Might Be One of the Cheapest,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Aug. 7, 2019.

Recent Commentaries

“Oakmark Fund: Second Calendar Quarter 2023,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, June 30, 2023.

“Oakmark Select Fund: Second Calendar Quarter 2023,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, June 30, 2023.

“Oakmark Global Fund: Second Calendar Quarter 2023,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, June 30, 2023.

“Oakmark Global Select Fund: Second Calendar Quarter 2023,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, June 30, 2023.

“Oakmark International Fund: Second Calendar Quarter 2023,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, June 30, 2023.

“Oakmark International Small Cap Fund: Second Calendar Quarter 2023,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, June 30, 2023.

“Oakmark Equity and Income Fund: Second Calendar Quarter 2023,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, June 30, 2023.

“Oakmark Bond Fund: Second Calendar Quarter 2023,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, June 30, 2023.

Investment Strategies

“5 Value Stocks With Oakmark’s Bill Nygren,” by Tom Lauricella, Morningstar.com, May 31, 2023.

“Why We Still Believe in Concentrated Investing,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, Feb. 8, 2023.

“Differentiated Value Investing,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, Jan. 6, 2022.

“The High Price of Low Volatility | U.S. Equity Market Commentary 2Q23,” by Bill Nygren, oakmark.com, June 30, 2023.

Financials

“Bill Nygren on CNBC’s ‘Closing Bell Overtime,’” oakmarkfunds.com, June 27, 2023.

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Today on the podcast, we welcome back author and financial educator, Manisha Thakor. Manisha’s new book is called MoneyZen: The Secret to Finding Your “Enough.” She is also the founder of MoneyZen, a financial education consultancy. In addition to her latest book, Manisha is the co-author of two books with Sharon Kedar: On My Own Two Feet, published in 2007 and updated in 2013, and Get Financially Naked, which came out in 2009. Prior to founding MoneyZen, Manisha was vice president of Financial Well-Being at Brighton Jones. Before that, she was director of Wealth Strategies for Women at Buckingham Strategic Wealth. Earlier in her career, Manisha held positions at several investment management firms, including Fayez Sarofim, Sands Capital Management, and Atalanta/Sosnoff Capital. Manisha is a chartered financial analyst and a certified financial planner. She received her bachelor’s degree in American Studies from Wellesley College and her MBA from Harvard Business School.

Background

Bio

MoneyZen

MoneyZen: The Secret to Finding Your “Enough,” by Manisha Thakor

On My Own Two Feet: A Modern Girl’s Guide to Personal Finance, by Manisha Thakor and Sharon Kedar

Get Financially Naked: How to Talk Money With Your Honey, by Manisha Thakor and Sharon Kedar

The Cult of Never Enough

Enough: True Measures of Money, Business, and Life, by Jack Bogle

Fayez Sarofim

Derek Thompson

“Perfectionism Is Increasing, and That’s Not Good News,” by Thomas Curran and Andrew P. Hill, Harvard Business Review, Jan. 26, 2018.

“Does More Money Correlate With Greater Happiness?” by Michele W. Berger, penntoday.upenn.edu, March 6, 2023.

Other

“Manisha Thakor: Beware of ‘Junk Personal Finance,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, July 20, 2021.

Moneyzenquiz

Mary LoVerde

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On the podcast today, we welcome back real estate expert and author Ilyce Glink. Ilyce writes a nationally syndicated column on real estate matters, and she has written more than a dozen books on real estate and homebuying, including 100 Questions Every First-Time Home Buyer Should Ask, which is now in its fourth edition. She is also a regular contributor to WGN Radio. In addition, she is founder and CEO of Best Money Moves, an award-winning financial wellness company that helps employees of more than 1,000 companies to improve their financial wellness and reduce financial stress. Ilyce received her bachelor’s degree in English literature from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.

Background

Bio

WGN Radio

100 Questions Every First-Time Home Buyer Should Ask, Fourth Edition, by Ilyce Glink

Best Money Moves

“Ilyce Glink: The State of the U.S. Residential Real Estate Market,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, June 28, 2022.

State of the Housing Market

“Home Prices, Rents Will Continue to Rise With Short Supply of Houses on Market, Analysis Finds,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, Washingtonpost.com, July 28, 2021.

“Homeowners Don’t Want to Sell, so the Market for Brand-New Homes Is Booming,” by Nicole Friedman, wsj.com, July 19, 2023.

“Love, Money + Real Estate #014,” by Ilyce Glink, glink.stubstack.com, May 3, 2022.

“2023 Home Buyer Resolutions,” by Ilyce Glink, thinkglink.com, Dec. 26, 2022.

“Want to Buy a Home? Good Luck. We’re 4 Million Homes Short,” by Ilyce Glink, thinkglink.com, April 20, 2021.

“Underbuilding Has Led to ‘Acute Shortage’ of Housing and ‘Affordability Crisis’ Study Says,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, Washingtonpost.com, July 19, 2021.

“Real Estate Trends for 2022,” by Ilyce Glink, thinkglink.com, Dec. 14, 2021.

“Advice for a First-Time Homebuyer in 2023,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, tribunecontentagency.com, Feb. 7, 2023.

Rental Properties

“Real Estate Matters: Homeowner Weighs Renting vs. Buying for Next Stage in Life,” by Ilyce Glink and Samuel J. Tamkin, heraldtribune.com, Aug. 8, 2021.

“Is It Better to Rent or Own Your Home in Retirement?” by Ilyce Glink, thinkglink.com, Dec. 11, 2020.

“Should Rental Income Be Part of Your Retirement?” by Chris Taylor, aarp.org, Aug. 1, 2022.

The Home as an Investment

“Capital Gains Tax on Inherited Property?” by Ilyce Glink, thinkglink.com, June 28, 2023.

IRS Publication 523: Selling Your Home

“Ramit Sethi: Investing Shouldn’t Be Your Identity,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, June 6, 2023.

“JL Collins: The Case for Simplicity,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, April 5, 2022.

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Our guest on the podcast today is Joel Dickson, global head of enterprise advice methodology for Vanguard. Joel oversees all investment methodology development for Vanguard’s advice programs, including Vanguard Personal Advisor and Vanguard Digital Advisor. Joel has worked at Vanguard for more than 25 years in a number of investment-related roles. He earned an A.B. from Washington University in St. Louis and a Ph.D. in economics from Stanford University. Joel can speak to a huge array of investment-related topics, but today he is here to discuss “How America Saves,” which is Vanguard’s annual report on the 401(k) plans it oversees and one of the best lenses into the state of American’s retirement preparedness.

Background

Bio

How America Saves

How America Saves 2023

“401(k) Auto Enrollment,” by Kat Tretina, forbes.com, Dec. 30, 2022.

“Target-Date Funds Have Normalized Workers’ Equity Allocations,” by Noah Zuss, plansponsor.com, April 10, 2023.

“Positive Signs in a Challenging Economy,” Vanguard.com, Feb. 3, 2023.

“A More Personalized Approach to Financial Advice,” by Joel Dickson, Vanguard.com, Sept. 23, 2022.

“SECURE 2.0 Offers New Wealth-Boosting Opportunities,” by Joel Dickson, Vanguard.com, May 9, 2023.

Other

“Boys Will Be Boys: Gender, Overconfidence, and Common Stock Investment,” by Brad M. Barber and Terrance Odean, The Quarterly Journal of Economics, February 2001.

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Our guest this week is Dave Sekera. Dave is chief U.S. market strategist for Morningstar Research Services. In his role, Dave publishes research and commentary on the state of the markets and is a leading voice on Morningstar.com and other platforms. Before assuming his current role, Dave was a managing director for DBRS Morningstar. Prior to joining Morningstar in 2010, Dave worked in the alternative asset management field. Dave earned his bachelor’s degree in finance and decision sciences from Miami University and holds the Chartered Financial Analyst designation. You can follow him on Twitter at @MstarMarkets.

Background

Bio

Twitter handle: @MstarMarkets

Stock Market and Market Concentration

“The U.S. Stock Market Is Undervalued, but It Looks Like a Rough Road Ahead,” by Dave Sekera, Morningstar.com, March 3, 2023.

“What to Expect From Stocks in 2023,” by Susan Dziubinski and Dave Sekera, Morningstar.com, Jan. 23, 2023.

“How to Invest in 2023′s Uncertain Market,” by David Sekera, Morningstar.com, March 27, 2023.

“Q3 Stock Market Update: Time to Batten Down the Hatches or Raise the Sail,” by Dave Sekera, Morningstar.com, June 30, 2023.

“3 Cheap Stocks to Buy and Hold This Summer,” by Dave Sekera and Susan Dziubinski, Morningstar.com, July 10, 2023.

“Markets Brief: The ‘Magnificent 7′ Stock Have Driven the Rally, but Are They Too Expensive Now?” by Caryl Anne Francia, Morningstar.com, June 23, 2023.

“Despite Rally, Stock Market Remains Undervalued,” by Dave Sekera, Morningstar.com, May 8, 2023.

Sector View

“4 Stocks to Buy in Q3 2023,” by Dave Sekera and Susan Dziubinski, Morningstar.com, July 5, 2023.

“33 Undervalued Stocks,” by Susan Dziubinski, Morningstar.com, July 3, 2023.

“10 Top Small-Cap Stocks to Buy for the Long Term,” by Susan Dziubinski, Morningstar.com, June 20, 2023.

“2 Big Tech Stocks to Buy,” by David Sekera, Ali Mogharabi, and Susan Dziubinski, Morningstar.com, May 8, 2023.

Value and Quality

“Markets Brief: Fading Recession Fears, Cheap Valuations Have Small-Cap Stocks Looking Attractive,” by Sandy Ward and Jakir Hossain, Morningstar.com, June 2, 2023.

“4 Undervalued Wide-Moat Stocks With Defensive Traits,” by Susan Dziubinski and Dave Sekera, Morningstar.com, June 26, 2023.

Macroeconomic Environment

Preston Caldwell

“U.S. Leading Indicators,” The Conference Board, conference-board.org, June 22, 2023.

Bonds and Credit and Risk

“Markets Brief: There’s Good News for Investors in Rates Staying Higher for Longer,” by Tom Lauricella and Caryl Anne Francia, Morningstar.com, July 7, 2023.

“5 Undervalued Stocks for a Sideways Market,” by David Sekera and Susan Dziubinski, Morningstar.com, May 22, 2023.

“Where to Invest in Bonds in 2023,” by David Sekera, Morningstar.com, Dec. 14, 2022.

Real Estate

“5 Cheap Real Estate Stocks to Buy,” by David Sekera and Susan Dziubinski, Morningstar.com, March 6, 2023.

“Markets Brief: 10th Straight Fed Rate Hike Rate on Tap,” by Sandy Ward and Jakir Hossain, Morningstar.com, April 28, 2023.

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On today’s episode of The Long View podcast, we welcome back William Bernstein. This is Bill’s third appearance on the podcast. In fact, he was our very first guest back when we started The Long View in 2019. Bill is a neurologist turned investment advisor. He is also the author of several books, including The Intelligent Asset Allocator, The Four Pillars of Investing, If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly, and The Delusion of Crowds. Bill has just come out with a new edition of The Four Pillars of Investing. So, we wanted to have him on to discuss the new book and what’s changed since that book’s original publication more than 20 years ago.

Background

Bio

The Four Pillars of Investing, Second Edition

The Intelligent Asset Allocator: How to Build Your Portfolio to Maximize Returns and Minimize Risk

If You Can: How Millennials Can Get Rich Slowly

The Delusion of Crowds: Why People Go Mad in Groups

“Bernstein: ‘I Don’t Think the System Needs Nudges. I Think the System Needs Dynamite,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, May 7, 2019.

“Bill Bernstein: We’re Starting to See all of the Signs of a Bubble,” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, March 10, 2021.

The Four Pillars of Investing

Robert Kaplan

Who Is Charlie Munger?

Antti Ilmanen

Expected Returns: An Investor’s Guide to Harvesting Market Rewards, by Antti Ilmanen

“Bernstein’s ‘4 Pillars of Investing’ & How They Work To Boost Returns,” by Anupam Nagar, economictimes.indiatimes.com, July 31, 2021.

“Are You Leaving Money on the Table From Your Funds’ Returns?” by Amy Arnott, Morningstar.com, July 12, 2022.

“William Bernstein on Deep Risk, Shallow Risk, and Investing for the Long-Term,” by Larry Frank, Sr., betterfinancialeducation.com, Aug. 24, 2022.

Where Are the Customers’ Yachts? Or a Good Hard Look at Wall Street, by Fred Schwed

Retirement

“Playing Inflation Russian Roulette in Retirement,” by William Bernstein, advisorperspectives.com, Nov. 29, 2022.

“Riskless at Age 104,” by William Bernstein, advisorperspectives.com, March 20, 2023.

“William Bernstein on Holding Both Treasury Bonds and TIPS (or Savings I Bonds),” by Jonathan Ping, mymoneyblog.com, April 16, 2023.

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Hi everyone. We’re taking the week off for the 4th of July holiday, but we wanted to use this week’s episode to honor Nobel Prize-winning economist Harry Markowitz, who recently passed away at the age of 95. Professor Markowitz is a giant of finance, someone who put diversification and Modern Portfolio Theory on the map, with his research transforming the way we allocate and invest our assets. While we didn’t have the opportunity to interview Professor Markowitz for the podcast, we were able to chat recently with someone who had interviewed him: author and financial researcher Dr. Andrew Lo. Dr. Lo recently published a book titled “In Pursuit of the Perfect Portfolio,” in which he profiled some of the leading figures in academic research and finance. None stood taller than Professor Markowitz, whom Dr. Lo discusses at length in this interview we aired in February of 2022. We think you’ll enjoy it. Thanks so much for listening and see you in a week. Have a happy holiday.

Our guest this week is Dr. Andrew Lo. Dr. Lo is the Charles E. & Susan T. Harris Professor, a professor of finance, and the director of the Laboratory for Financial Engineering at the MIT Sloan School of Management. His current research spans five areas, including evolutionary models of investor behavior and adaptive markets, systemic risk, and financial regulation, among others. Dr. Lo has published extensively in academic journals and authored a number of books including In Pursuit of the Perfect Portfolio, which he cowrote with Stephen Foerster. He has received numerous awards for his work and contributions to modern finance research throughout his career. He holds a bachelor’s in economics from Yale University and an AM and Ph.D. in economics from Harvard University.

Background

In Pursuit of the Perfect Portfolio: The Stories, Voices, and Key Insights of the Pioneers Who Shaped the Way We Invest, by Andrew W. Lo and Stephen R. Foerster

Adaptive Markets: Financial Evolution at the Speed of Thought, by Andrew W. Lo

History

"Thirty Maidens of Geneva," the Tontine Coffee-House, thetch.blog.com, Aug. 5, 2019.

"Why 18th Century Swiss Bankers Bet on the Lives of Young Girls," by Stephen Foerster, sfoerster-5338.medium.com, Sept. 2, 2021.

William F. Sharpe

"Keynes the Stock Market Investor: A Quantitative Analysis," by David Chambers, Elroy Dimson, and Justin Foo, papers.ssrn.com, Sept. 26, 2013.

Eugene F. Fama

"Algorithmic Models of Investor Behavior," by Andrew Lo and Alexander Remorov, eqderivatives.com, 2021.

"In Pursuit of the Perfect Portfolio: Eugene Fama," Interview with Andrew Lo and Eugene Fama, youtube.com, Dec. 15, 2016.

"Why Artificial Intelligence May Not Be as Useful or as Challenging as Artificial Stupidity," by Andrew Lo, hdsr.mitpress.mit.edu, July 1, 2019.

Charles D. Ellis

"Charley Ellis: Why Active Investing Is Still a Loser's Game," The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, May 27, 2020.

Other

"7 Principles to Help You Create Your Perfect Portfolio," by Robert Powell, marketwatch.com, Nov. 10, 2021.

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Our guests on the podcast today are Eric Weigel and Fritz Gilbert. Fritz is a repeat guest on The Long View. He writes the popular Retirement Manifesto blog, and he also wrote a book about retirement called Keys to a Successful Retirement: Staying Happy, Active, and Productive in Your Retired Years. Eric Weigel is the founder of a retirement coaching firm called Retire With Possibilities, and he is also the author of a book on retirement called Reimagining Retirement: 9 Keys to True Wealth. Together they collaborated on a recent survey of retirees and preretirees to gauge their attitudes about retirement and to help flag potential blind spots about retirement planning.

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Eric Weigel Bio

Fritz Gilbert Bio

Retirement Manifesto Blog

Keys to a Successful Retirement: Staying Happy, Active, and Productive in Your Retired Years, by Fritz Gilbert

“Fritz Gilbert: Early Retirement Made Simple,” The Long View podcast, morningstar.com, Oct. 26, 2021.

Retire With Possibilities

Reimagining Retirement: 9 Keys to True Wealth, by Eric Weigel

Survey and Results

“Retirement Perspectives and Attitudes Survey,” by Fritz Gilbert and Eric Weigel, retirewithpossibilities.com, May 2023.

“Laura Carstensen: ‘I’m Suggesting We Change the Way We Work,’” The Long View podcast, Morningstar.com, Sept. 14, 2021.

“7 Secrets to a Great Retirement,” by Fritz Gilbert, theretirementmanifesto.com, Feb. 2, 2023.

80th Birthday—FranklinCovey video

“The End of History Illusion,” by Jordi Quoidbach, Daniel Gilbert, and Timothy Wilson, science.org, Jan. 4, 2013.

Blind Spots

“Shining the Light on Retirement Blind Spots,” by Fritz Gilbert, theretirementmanifesto.com, May 18, 2023.

“Introducing the 90/10 Rule of Retirement,” by Fritz Gilbert, theretirementmanifesto.com, Oct. 7, 2021.

Chip Conley

Holmes-Rahe Scale

“Longevity and the New Journey of Retirement,” EdwardJones study, agewave.com.

Other

“The Ten Commandments of Retirement,” by Fritz Gilbert, theretirementmanifesto.com, March 6, 2018.

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Our guest on the podcast today is New York Times economics reporter Talmon Smith. Before joining the Business desk, he was a staff editor for the Times Opinion section covering public policy, economics, and culture. He began his career as a researcher and visiting scholar at NYU’s Journalism Institute and was assistant to the editor in chief at GQ magazine. He graduated from Tufts University with a major in history.

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Bio

Twitter handle: @talmonsmith

Economy, Inflation, and the Great Wealth Transfer

“ ‘I’m in Hot Demand, Baby’: Nebraska Thrives (and Copes) With Low Unemployment,” By Talmon Joseph Smith, nytimes.com, April 1, 2022.

“Job Openings Rose in April, Defying Cooling Trend,” by Talmon Joseph Smith, nytimes.com, May 31, 2023.

“Companies Push Prices Higher, Protecting Profits but Adding to Inflation,” by Talmon Joseph Smith and Joe Rennison, nytimes.com, May 30, 2023.

“Wages May Not Be Inflation’s Cause, but They’re the Focus of the Cure,” by Talmon Joseph Smith, seattletimes.com, April 7, 2023.

“Even a Soft Landing for the Economy Might Be Uneven,” by Talmon Joseph Smith, buffalonews.com, Jan. 8, 2023.

“As the Fed Raises Rates, Worries Grow About Corporate Bonds,” by Talmon Joseph Smith, nytimes.com, Nov. 11, 2022.

“What Will Happen to Black Workers’ Gains if There’s a Recession?” by Talmon Joseph Smith, nytimes.com, Aug. 24, 2022.

“Hiring Remains Strong Even as Fed Tries to Cool Economy,” by Talmon Joseph Smith, Lydia DePillis, and Jeanna Smialek, nytimes.com, June 3, 2022.

“The Greatest Wealth Transfer in History Is Here, With Familiar (Rich) Winners,” by Talmon Joseph Smith, nytimes.com, May 14, 2023.

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