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Want to become an electrician? Jon Lock joins host Andrew Brown to break down the electrician apprenticeship program, union vs non-union routes, and licensing.
Whether you're curious about how to become an electrician, preparing for your electrical journeyman license requirements, or simply passionate about the future of the trades industry, this episode is packed with practical advice, honest reflection, and expert insights from someone who’s lived it.
IN THIS EPISODE:(00:01) – The reality of starting out in the trades: Jon talks about attitude, attendance, and being coachable when entering an electrician apprenticeship program.
(08:42) – Union vs Non-Union: The insider’s take: What to expect from union vs non-union electrician routes, pay differences, and access to tools and training.
(15:36) – Getting into the trades without knowing anyone: Jon shares how he got into the skilled trades career path without prior connections—and how YouTube played a role.
(22:14) – The wages, the timeline, and what to expect: Breaking down the electrical journeyman license requirements and the pay scale from apprentice to journeyman.
(30:50) – Failing the test—then passing it: Jon opens up about failing the licensing exam twice and how he finally earned his license.
(39:05) – Advice for new tradespeople: His top 3 qualities for apprentice success—and how to stand out in today’s trades industry.
Key Takeaways:Electrician apprenticeship programs are highly competitive—especially in the union system—so showing up, staying humble, and learning fast are key.
Understanding the pros and cons of union vs non-union electrician jobs can change your entire career trajectory.
The skilled trades career path offers solid pay, pride in your work, and long-term job security—but only if you're willing to put in the time.
To meet electrical journeyman license requirements, apprentices need 8,000 hours of work and often several attempts at the licensing test—persistence pays off.
About the Guest:Jon Lock is a licensed electrician and content creator behind Daily Electrician, where he shares the day-to-day realities of the trade on YouTube and Instagram. With experience in both commercial and residential electrical work, Jon speaks from the front lines of the skilled trades industry—offering advice, mentorship, and career insight for those exploring how to become an electrician. He's passionate about craftsmanship, lifelong learning, and helping the next generation navigate their skilled trades career path.
Keywords:electrician apprenticeship program, union vs non-union electrician, how to become an electrician, skilled trades career path, electrical journeyman license requirements, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Jon Lock, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council
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Host Andrew Brown sits down with serial entrepreneur and LiveSwitch founder Brian Hamilton to unpack what it really takes to succeed when starting a trades business. Brian shares real stories—from mentoring an ex-inmate contractor to lessons learned from running multi-million dollar tech and service companies. This episode is packed with contractor business advice, deep reflections on skilled trades entrepreneurship, and no-nonsense talk about pricing for tradespeople and providing exceptional trade business customer service. Whether you're a plumber, electrician, carpenter, or HVAC tech, this one’s for you.
In This Episode:(00:03:30) – Brian Hamilton’s background and why the trades are the backbone of the economy
(00:10:20) – The leap from skilled worker to business owner
(00:18:45) – What new contractors get wrong about pricing and customers
(00:30:00) – Real-world examples of success—and failure—when starting a trades business
(00:42:15) – Why mentorship and education are key to skilled trades entrepreneurship
(00:54:10) – How LiveSwitch helps contractors improve trade business customer service
Key Takeaways:The trades are a mission, not just a job. Passion for craftsmanship and problem-solving is what separates great tradespeople from good ones.
You need more than skills—you need systems. Running a business takes financial literacy, contractor business advice, and self-discipline.
Customer service is your brand. Showing up on time and doing what you say you will do is the heart of effective trade business customer service.
Start small, price smart. When starting a trades business, don't be afraid to take smaller jobs with the right margin—master pricing for tradespeople early.
About the Guest:Brian Hamilton is the founder of LiveSwitch and Inmates to Entrepreneurs, with a decades-long career spanning tech startups and skilled trades entrepreneurship. A passionate advocate for contractors, tradespeople, and second chances, Brian helps aspiring entrepreneurs turn grit into growth using actionable, real-world insights. His mission? Empower people through small business ownership, especially in the trades industry.
Keywords :starting a trades business, skilled trades entrepreneurship, contractor business advice, pricing for tradespeople, trade business customer service, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Brian Hamilton, LiveSwitch, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council
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Host Andrew Brown sits down with Cale Mouser, a standout figure in the world of Skilled Trades Careers and Diesel Technician Training. From his humble beginnings as a mechanic in Kansas to competing on the global stage at WorldSkills Competition USA, Cale shares his inspiring path through technical college programs, international recognition, and the powerful role of industry support for trades. Whether you're an aspiring tradesperson, contractor, educator, or advocate, this episode offers invaluable insights into the trades industry and what it takes to build a successful future in skilled trades.
IN THIS EPISODE:
(01:45) – Cale’s early days in Kansas and entry into the trades
(04:30) – The support from Caterpillar, Volvo, and other manufacturers
(08:10) – What it’s like competing at WorldSkills Competition USA
(12:50) – The value of technical college programs in the trades
(18:20) – Career growth potential in diesel technician training
(24:15) – Cale’s transition from competitor to instructor
Key Takeaways:
Industry support for trades can open doors to elite training and career advancement.
Diesel technician training is a gateway to fulfilling and high-earning careers in the skilled trades.
Events like WorldSkills Competition USA elevate the perception of trades careers globally.
Technical college programs provide practical, hands-on education that leads directly to the workforce.
About the Guest:
Cale Mouser is a diesel technician turned educator who competed in WorldSkills Competition USA, representing the best in Skilled Trades Careers. A graduate of North Dakota State College of Science, Cale now teaches the next generation of tradespeople and serves as a passionate advocate for technical education and industry support for trades.
Keywords:
Skilled trades careers, Diesel technician training, WorldSkills competition USA, Technical college programs, Industry support for trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Cale Mouser, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council
Resources:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mouser_motorsports/
WorldSkills USA profile: https://worldskillsusa.org/team/cale-mouser/
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Host Andrew Brown welcomes Ryan Sullivan, founder of The Ryan Sullivan Show and Podcast Principles. They dive into Ryan’s journey from working as a mechanic to becoming a podcast strategist and entrepreneur. Ryan shares how the skilled trades industry shaped his work ethic and creativity, and how tradespeople can harness the power of podcasting and branding to elevate their blue collar businesses. Whether you're interested in skilled trades careers, starting a trades podcast, or making the leap from mechanic to business owner, this episode delivers valuable insights for both trades professionals and industry advocates.
IN THIS EPISODE:[00:03] – Discovering entrepreneurship through skilled trades careers
[09:21] – Ryan's first job at a generational auto shop
[18:14] – From mechanic to business owner: turning shop skills into a brand
[25:35]– The importance of trades business branding in the digital age
[32:42]– How starting a trades podcast can open doors
[44:10]– Using podcasting for advocacy and trades industry storytelling
Key Takeaways:Skilled trades careers can be the gateway to lifelong learning, entrepreneurship, and personal growth.
You don’t need a degree to build a fulfilling career—blue collar entrepreneurship is thriving more than ever.
Starting a trades podcast is one of the most effective ways to grow your network, build trust, and tell your story.
Strong trades business branding helps contractors, plumbers, electricians, and other tradespeople stand out in a noisy online world.
About the Guest:Ryan Sullivan is the founder of Podcast Principles and host of The Ryan Sullivan Show. With a background as an auto mechanic and DJ, Ryan eventually transitioned into media production, building a thriving business helping clients start and grow their podcasts. His passion for Skilled Trades, storytelling, and entrepreneurship continues to drive his mission of elevating tradespeople and empowering them to use their voice in the digital age.
Keywords:Skilled trades careers, starting a trades podcast, blue collar entrepreneurship, trades business branding, from mechanic to business owner, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Ryan Sullivan, The Ryan Sullivan Show, Podcast Principles, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council
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Host Andrew Brown sits down with Bharani Rajakumar, CEO of Transfr, to explore the future of the skilled trades industry through the lens of virtual reality job training and trade school alternatives. From transformative success stories to the power of career exploration without a four-year degree, this conversation highlights real opportunities in skilled trades careers—including for women in the trades. Discover how technology is revolutionizing how we train, inspire, and build the next generation of craftsmen, contractors, and tradespeople.
In this Episode:(02:05) - The powerful story of a former inmate who used VR job training to launch a manufacturing career
(08:30) - Why traditional education fails to highlight skilled trades careers as viable options
(13:55) - What Transfr is doing to change the game in career training using VR
(21:12) - The rise of women in the trades and why it matters more than ever
(27:40) - How career exploration through VR is shaping trade school alternatives
(35:00) Why the future of the trades industry includes entrepreneurship, ownership, and upward mobility without college
Key Takeaways:Virtual reality job training allows learners to safely explore multiple trades before committing to a specific path—empowering more informed decisions.
Skilled trades careers offer early access to high-paying, fulfilling work—without student debt or a four-year degree.
There’s a growing movement of women in the trades, proving that career success in HVAC, carpentry, welding, and electrical work is not gender-bound.
Through trade school alternatives like Transfr’s VR training, learners gain hands-on experience and real-world confidence that translate directly into jobs.
About the Guest:Bharani Rajakumar is the founder and CEO of Transfr, a company using cutting-edge virtual reality job training to build career exploration tools for the skilled trades industry. With a mission rooted in upward mobility without college, Bharani is a thought leader in developing trade school alternatives that prepare learners of all ages—including women in the trades—for successful careers in construction, HVAC, welding, and more.
Keywords:Skilled trades careers, virtual reality job training, trade school alternatives, upward mobility without college, women in the trades, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Bharani Rajakumar, Transfr, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council
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Host Andrew Brown sits down with Crystal Latham-Alford, Executive Director of SkillsUSA Texas. They dive into the impact of SkillsUSA competitions, the importance of career technical education (CTE), and how students can prepare for successful skilled trades careers. Crystal shares insights on how trade school opportunities help bridge the gap in the workforce, the role of soft skills training, and how industries can better support the next generation of tradespeople. If you're passionate about craftsmanship, problem-solving, and trades careers, this episode is a must-listen!
IN THIS EPISODE:(00:02:15) – What is SkillsUSA and how it prepares students for skilled trades careers
(00:08:40) – The importance of career technical education (CTE) and hands-on learning
(00:15:10) – How SkillsUSA competitions simulate real-world work environments
(00:23:45) – The role of soft skills training in career readiness for tradespeople
(00:35:20) – How industry leaders and educators can support trade school opportunities
(00:42:50) – Inspiring success stories from SkillsUSA competitors
Key Takeaways:SkillsUSA competitions help students develop technical and leadership skills, preparing them for skilled trades careers.
Career technical education (CTE) provides hands-on learning that bridges the gap between school and the workforce.
Soft skills training, such as communication and problem-solving, is just as important as technical skills for long-term success in trades careers.
Trade school opportunities offer viable career paths in industries like carpentry, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, millwrights, and construction.
About the Guest:Crystal Latham-Alford is the Executive Director of SkillsUSA Texas, a leader in career technical education (CTE) and workforce development. With a passion for trades careers, she works to provide students with hands-on learning experiences, professional development, and networking opportunities in industries like construction, craftsmanship, and problem-solving. Under her leadership, SkillsUSA competitions continue to shape the next generation of skilled trades professionals.
Keywords:SkillsUSA competition, skilled trades careers, career technical education (CTE), trade school opportunities, soft skills training, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Crystal Latham-Alford, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council.
RESOURCE LINKS:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/crystal-latham-alford-89b417173/
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Host Andrew Brown welcomes Brooke Gatchell, Social Media Specialist at SkillsUSA, to discuss the impact of the SkillsUSA welding competition and other trade competitions on students and professionals. They explore how skilled trades careers are evolving, the importance of trade school opportunities, and how organizations like SkillsUSA contribute to workforce development programs. They also discuss the National Leadership and Skills Conference, where the best in the trades industry showcase their craftsmanship and compete for top honors.
In this Episode:(03:15) – Introduction to SkillsUSA and its role in shaping skilled trades careers.
(07:40) – The impact of the SkillsUSA welding competition and its influence on students.
(12:25) – The role of the National Leadership and Skills Conference in career development.
(18:10)– How trade school opportunities help build a strong workforce.
(25:35) – The importance of mentorship and hands-on experience in workforce development programs.
(32:50) – Final thoughts on advocacy, career growth, and the future of the trades industry.
Key Takeaways:SkillsUSA is a powerful platform – It helps students develop technical and soft skills, preparing them for skilled trades careers.
Competitions drive excellence – Events like the SkillsUSA welding competition and the National Leadership and Skills Conference push students to perfect their craft.
Trade school opportunities matter – Education and training in the trades are crucial for closing the skills gap and creating job-ready professionals.
Workforce development programs are essential – Industry partnerships and training initiatives help ensure the future success of tradespeople.
About the Guest:Brooke Gatchell is the Social Media Specialist at SkillsUSA, a leading organization in workforce development programs for students entering skilled trades careers. She is passionate about advocacy in the trades industry, helping students find success through trade school opportunities and career competitions like the SkillsUSA welding competition and the National Leadership and Skills Conference.
Keywords:SkillsUSA welding competition, skilled trades careers, trade school opportunities, workforce development programs, National Leadership and Skills Conference, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Brooke Brooke Gatchell [00:00:00]:
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Host Andrew Brown sits down with James Holster of Firefly Aerospace to discuss his journey into the skilled trades, how he became a specialist in welding in the aerospace industry, and his work on the Blue Ghost Moon Lander. They explore the challenges of precision welding for spacecraft, the importance of skilled trades careers, and why hands-on work is critical in today's economy. James shares insights from his time in the U.S. Navy, his transition into aerospace, and how trade schools vs college played a role in his career path. If you're interested in careers in Firefly Aerospace welding, this episode is a must-listen.
IN THIS EPISODE:(00:02:15) - James Holster & Firefly Aerospace Welding
(00:08:32) - The challenges of welding the Blue Ghost Moon Lander
(00:15:10) - Transitioning from the U.S. Navy to the skilled trades careers
(00:22:45) - Why trade school vs college is an important decision
(00:30:00) - The future of welding in the aerospace industry
(00:38:20) - Advice for young people considering skilled trades careers
Key Takeaways:The demand for skilled trades careers is growing, especially in fields like Firefly Aerospace welding, HVAC, electricians, plumbers, and millwrights.
Precision welding in the aerospace industry requires strict tolerances, problem-solving skills, and technical expertise.
Trade schools vs college: The right path depends on career goals, but the trades industry offers high-paying, rewarding careers.
The Blue Ghost Moon Lander is a milestone for Firefly Aerospace, showcasing the critical role of tradespeople in space exploration.
About the Guest:James Holster is a welding expert in the aerospace industry with over 23 years of experience. Starting his career in the U.S. Navy, he became a precision welder specializing in high-stakes environments such as submarines, nuclear reactors, and spacecraft. He has worked with Firefly Aerospace, SpaceX, and other industry leaders, helping develop cutting-edge technology like the Blue Ghost Moon Lander. Today, he continues to advocate for skilled trades careers and mentors the next generation of welders and tradespeople.
Keywords:Blue Ghost Moon Lander, Firefly Aerospace welding, Skilled trades careers, Welding in aerospace industry, Trade school vs college, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, James Holster, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council
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Host Andrew Brown sits down with Michael Krupnicki, the current President of the American Welding Society (AWS), to discuss the evolving landscape of Skilled Trades Careers. They explore the importance of Welding Education, the role of VR Welding Simulation in attracting the next generation of welders, and the critical Welding Workforce Shortage facing the industry today. Michael shares insights on the state of Skilled Trades, the challenges employers face in hiring skilled workers, and the steps being taken to close the gap.
If you're interested in welding, construction, or other Trades Careers, this episode provides valuable insights into the industry's future and how organizations like AWS are working to promote and grow Skilled Trades Careers.
IN THIS EPISODE:(00:00:34) – Introduction to the podcast and today’s guest, Michael Krupnicki, President of the American Welding Society (AWS).
(00:02:27) – The role of VR Welding Simulation in engaging young people and promoting Welding Education.
(00:05:47) – Social media’s impact on Trades Careers and why Skilled Trades Careers are gaining traction among Gen Z.
(00:11:35) – Breaking down the average wages in welding and how to address the Welding Workforce Shortage.
(00:20:52) – AWS membership benefits and networking opportunities for Trades Industry professionals.
(00:26:43) – The need for more investment in Skilled Trades Education and addressing misconceptions about the industry.
Key Takeaways:Welding Education is Evolving – With advancements in VR Welding Simulation, students can safely practice welding and gain experience before entering a shop.
The Skilled Trades Industry Needs Workers – The Welding Workforce Shortage is a real challenge, with over 82,500 welders needed annually to meet demand.
Social Media is a Game-Changer – Platforms like YouTube and Instagram are giving the next generation real-time insights into Trades Careers like welding, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, and Plumbers.
AWS is Leading the Charge – The American Welding Society (AWS) is investing in education, safety standards, and industry networking to build a stronger future for Skilled Trades Careers.
About the Guest:Michael Krupnicki is the current President of the American Welding Society (AWS) and a dedicated advocate for Welding Education. With decades of experience in welding, manufacturing, and skilled trades leadership, he has been instrumental in promoting the importance of Skilled Trades Careers. Michael is also the owner of a private welding school and has worked tirelessly to help young professionals enter and thrive in the Trades Industry
Keywords:Skilled Trades Careers, Welding Education, American Welding Society (AWS), VR Welding Simulation, Welding Workforce Shortage, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Michael Krupnicki, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council.
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Host Andrew Brown sits down with Boyd Worsham, President of NCCER, to discuss the importance of Skilled Trades Careers, Construction Workforce Development, and Carpentry Apprenticeships. Boyd shares his journey from high school carpentry to leading a national organization dedicated to workforce training and NCCER Certification Benefits. They dive into the challenges facing the Trades Industry, the ongoing labor shortage, and the importance of structured training programs. This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in Trade School vs. College and the future of Trades Careers.
IN THIS EPISODE:
(00:00:22) – Introduction to the episode and guest, Boyd Worsham
(00:01:40) – The significance of SkillsUSA and how it supports Skilled Trades Careers
(00:06:58) – What makes a great carpenter? The balance of Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, and Creativity
(00:14:02) – The need for Construction Workforce Development and improving trade education awareness
(00:24:21) – Advice for those looking to start their own business in the Trades Industry
(00:44:01) – Key advice for young tradespeople: seizing Carpentry Apprenticeships and leadership
Key Takeaways:The Importance of Trades Education Schools must promote Trades Careers alongside traditional college paths. Trade School vs. College should be an informed choice, not an afterthought.
Training and Certifications Matter Earning an NCCER Certification significantly improves career prospects in Construction Workforce Development.
Career Growth in the Skilled Trades Skilled Trades Careers offer opportunities for leadership, business ownership, and Industry Experts mentoring the next generation.
Solving the Labor Shortage Awareness campaigns and initiatives like the Skilled Trades Advisory Council can help recruit more young people into the Trades Industry.
About the Guest:
Boyd Worsham is the President of NCCER (National Center for Construction Education and Research), a nonprofit dedicated to providing standardized training and NCCER Certification Benefits across multiple skilled trades. With over 30 years in the Construction Industry, Boyd has worked in Carpentry, project management, and workforce training. He is passionate about promoting Carpentry Apprenticeships and ensuring the next generation of Tradespeople receive the education and support they need to succeed.
Keywords:Skilled Trades Careers, Construction Workforce Development, Carpentry Apprenticeships, Trade School vs. College, NCCER Certification Benefits, NCCER, Skilled Trades, Trades Industry, Andrew Brown, Boyd Worsham, Toolfetch, Carpentry, HVAC, Electricians, Plumbers, Millwrights, Construction, Craftsmanship, Problem-solving, Creativity, Tradespeople, Advocacy, Trades Careers, Industry Experts, Contractors, Education, Skilled Trades Advisory Council
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