Sam Zvibleman is the co-creator, writer, and director of PEN15. If you’re not familiar, it’s the most amazing show on Hulu, so check it out! He’s the sweetest human and a great artist who is embracing the mystery of living in the unknown. We also have a spot-on reading at the end, so stick around for that!

Today we discuss:

• The Mandela Effect & how Sam embraced feminine energy
• How making PEN15 prompted Sam to reflect on who he was as a teenager
• How Sam & Rachel met
• “Vendy Wiccany,” the witchy episode of PEN15

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