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Explore the evolving dynamics of mentorship with Joel and Rick Malm as they dissect a Zen proverb and biblical wisdom to uncover whether we ever outgrow our mentors, or if the relationship simply transforms. They discuss aging, wisdom, and the essential role of the Holy Spirit in guiding life decisions.

In This Episode:
00:00 Outgrowing Mentors: A Zen Proverb

04:03 Growth, Crystallized Intelligence, and Trust

08:24 The Need for Wise Counsel

12:50 Surpassing Mentors and Humility

Key Takeaways:
* Examine the Zen proverb: “When the student is ready, the teacher appears; when the student is truly ready, the teacher disappears.”
* Understand the biblical perspective from Luke 6:40 on mentorship and becoming like the teacher.
* Recognize the shift from relying on external mentors to trusting the Holy Spirit for guidance.
* Appreciate the crystallized intelligence and wisdom that comes with age and experience.
* Maintain humility and openness to counsel, regardless of experience level.

Resources Mentioned:
* Luke 6:40: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke%206%3A40&version=ESV
* ESV Bible: https://www.esv.org/
* Hiking the Clouds (book): http://hikingtheclouds.com
* Strength to Strength by Arthur Brooks: https://www.arthurbrooks.com/books/strength-to-strength/
* The Chosen: https://watch.thechosen.tv/

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In this episode, Joël talks about some ideas he has for the future and asks for listener feedback on what's next. 

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What does “perfect love” really look like? 🤔 We’re unpacking the concept of agape from 2 Peter!

Join us as we chat about ascending in faith, the role of the church, and opportunities to love.

00:00 Hiking the Clouds: Agape
03:33 Churches and Their Callings
09:03 Humility and Knowing God
12:50 The Complexity of God’s Love

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#love #LoveUnconditionally #ChristianPodcast #SpiritualGrowth #BibleDiscussion

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Can you REALLY love your brothers in Christ? 🤔 Joël & Rick get real about expectations, “egocentric love,” & the journey to something deeper.

They dive into the “Hiking the Clouds” book, exploring:

• Why loving fellow Christians can be tough
• The role of self-awareness
• Why you might be a narcissist (lol)
• The importance of community

In this episode: 

00:00 Brotherly Love vs. Agape

03:43 Shattering Illusions for True Love

08:10 Detachment: Loving Without Need

13:07 Community and True Compassion

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What is a "godly" person? Joël and Rick Malm into the complexities of godliness as they continue their journey through the first draft of Joël's book, “Hiking the Clouds.” They explore the balance between rational understanding and embracing the mystery of faith, challenging conventional Western Christian perspectives. In 

This Episode: 

00:00 Welcome Back and Book Updates 

01:00 The Challenge of Self-Control 

02:00 Understanding Godliness 

03:30 Embracing Paradoxes in Faith 

05:00 The Mystery of God 

08:00 The Journey of Letting Go 

10:00 The Second Half of Faith 

12:00 Rattling Theological Cages 

14:00 Navigating Uncertainty in Faith 

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Joël and Rick delve into the concept of endurance in faith, inspired by Joël’s upcoming book, “Hiking the Clouds.” They explore how perseverance through times of God's silence leads to mature faith, discussing personal anecdotes and biblical perspectives on navigating spiritual challenges. 

In This Episode:

00:00 Welcome Back!
01:30 The Journey of Endurance
03:30 Facing Spiritual Abandonment
05:30 The Reality of Suffering
07:30 Trusting God in Darkness
10:00 The Role of Emotional Suffering
12:30 The Illusion of Control

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Join Joël and Rick Malm as they delve into Joël's new book, “Hiking the Clouds,” exploring the concept of self-control as a waypoint on the journey of faith. They discuss the importance of self-awareness as a precursor to self-control, highlighting the need to address root causes rather than merely surface-level behaviors. This insightful conversation uses relatable stories and scriptural insights to illuminate the path towards spiritual maturity.

In This Episode:

00:08 Introduction to Hiking the Clouds

01:40 Understanding Self-Control

03:56 The Hike Analogy

06:00 The Root of Self-Control

09:40 The Role of the Soul

12:12 Navigating Self-Awareness and Self-Improvement

14:00 The Dark Side of Self-Perception

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Joel and Rick Malm delve into Chapter 3 of Joel’s book, “Hiking the Clouds,” exploring the complexities of spiritual growth and the role of knowledge in faith. They discuss how knowledge, while crucial, shouldn’t overshadow love and genuine transformation, highlighting the dangers of pride and self-righteousness that can arise from excessive knowledge. The episode offers practical insights into balancing biblical understanding with a humble heart, emphasizing the importance of self-reflection and pursuing a genuine relationship with God.

In This Episode:

00:00 Introduction to Hiking the Clouds
01:19 Understanding Faith
02:09 The Role of Knowledge in Faith
05:01 The Challenge of Biblical Knowledge
07:00 The Dangers of Knowledge Without Love
09:41 The Heart of the Matter

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Joël and Rick continue their discussion of Joël's new book -- Hiking the Clouds --about the stages of faith. Starting with the importance of a strict moral code and obedience as a foundation for all other stages on the journey of awareness. 

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In this brief episode, Joël and Rick talk about the floods that impacted their area.