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What if communities could map their own worlds using low-cost drones and open AI models instead of waiting for expensive satellite imagery?
In this episode with Leen from HOT (Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team), we explore how they're putting open mapping tools directly into communities' hands—from $500 drones that fly in parallel to create high-resolution imagery across massive areas, to predictive models that speed up feature extraction without replacing human judgment.
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This conversation with Jed Sundwall, Executive Director of Radiant Earth, starts with a simple but crucial distinction: the difference between data and data products. And that distinction matters more than you might think.
We dig into why so many open data portals feel like someone just threw up a bunch of files and called it a day. Sure, the data's technically "open," but is it actually useful? Jed argues we need to be way more precise with our language and intentional about what we're building.
A data product has documentation, clear licensing, consistent formatting, customer support, and most importantly - it'll actually be there tomorrow.
From there, we explore Source Cooperative, which Jed describes as "object storage for people who should never log into a cloud console." It's designed to be invisible infrastructure - the kind you take for granted because it just works. We talk about cloud native concepts, why object storage matters, and what it really means to think like a product manager when publishing data.
The conversation also touches on sustainability - both the financial kind (how do you keep data products alive for 50 years?) and the cultural kind (why do we need organizations designed for the 21st century, not the 20th?). Jed introduces this idea of "gazelles" - smaller, lighter-weight institutions that can move together and actually get things done.
We wrap up talking about why shared understanding matters more than ever, and why making data easier to access and use might be one of the most important things we can do right now.
Reflections from the FOSS4G 2025 conference
The high volume of talks on extracting meaning from geospatial data—including Python workflows, data pipelines, and automation at scale—reinforced the idea that FOSS4G represents critical infrastructure.
When geospatial people meet, data infrastructure—the "plumbing" of how data is stored, organized, and accessed—always dominates.
If I had to offer quick guidance based on the conference, it would be:
The conference was brilliant, but a few areas felt underrepresented:
Karl returns to the Mapscaping podcast to discuss his latest venture, Tyche Insights - a platform aimed at building a global community of geospatial storytellers working with open data.
In this conversation, we explore the evolution from his previous company, Building Footprint USA (acquired by Lightbox), to this new mission of democratizing public data storytelling.
Karl walks us through the challenges and opportunities of open data, the importance of unbiased storytelling, and how geospatial professionals can apply their skills to analyze and share insights about their own communities. Karl shares his vision for creating something akin to Wikipedia, but for civic data stories - complete with style guides, editorial processes, and community collaboration.
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Solo Episode Reflection: I'm back behind the mic after about a year-long break. Producing this podcast takes more time than you might imagine, and I was pretty burnt out. The last year brought some major life events, including moving my family back to New Zealand from Denmark, dealing with depression, burying my father, starting a new business with my wife, and having a teenage daughter in the house. These events took up a lot of space.
The Catalyst for Return: Eventually, you figure out how to deal with grief, stop mourning the way things were, and focus on the way things could be. When this space opened up in my life, AI came into the picture. AI got me excited about ideas again because for the first time, I could just build things myself without needing to pitch ideas or spend limited financial resources.
On "AI Slop": I understand why some content is called "slop," but for those of us who see AI as a tool, I don't think the term is helpful. We don't refer to our first clumsy experiments with other technologies—like our first map or first lines of code—as slop. I believe that if we want to encourage curiosity and experimentation, calling the results of people trying to discover what's possible "slop" isn't going to help.
My goal in sharing these experiments is to encourage you to go out and try AI yourself.
Phase 1: SEO and Content Generation My experimentation began with generating SEO-style articles as a marketing tool. As a dyslexic person, I previously paid freelancers thousands of dollars over the years to help create content for my website because it was too difficult or time-consuming for me to create myself.
Unexpected GIS Capabilities: During this process, I realized you can ask platforms like ChatGPT to perform GIS-related data conversions (e.g., geojson to KML or shapefile using geopandas), repro data, create buffers around geometries, and even upload a screenshot of a table from a PDF and convert it to a CSV file. While I wouldn't blindly trust an LLM for critical work, it's been interesting to learn where they make mistakes and what I can trust them for.
AI as a Sparring Partner: I now use AI regularly to create QGIS plugins and automations. Since I often work remotely as the only GIS person on certain projects, I use AI—specifically talking to ChatGPT via voice on my phone—as a sparring partner to bounce ideas off of and help me solve problems when I get stuck.
Multimodal Capabilities: The multimodal nature of Gemini is particularly interesting; if you share your screen while working in QGIS, Gemini can talk you through solving a problem (though you should consider privacy concerns).
I noticed that the digital landscape was changing rapidly. LLMs were becoming "answer engines," replacing traditional search on Google, which introduced AI Overviews. Since these models no longer distribute traffic to websites like mine the way they used to, I needed a new strategy.
Coding with AI: I started by using ChatGPT to code small client-side map applications, then moved to Claude, which is significantly better than OpenAI's models and is still my coding model of choice. Currently, I use Cursor AI as a development environment, swapping between Claude code, OpenAI's Codex, and other models.
After practicing and refining my methods, I decided to build a Chrome extension. Every GIS professional can relate to the pain point of sifting through HTTP calls in the developer tools networking tab to find the URL for a web service to use in QGIS or ArcGIS.
AI is here, and it will lead to profound change. Experimenting with it is vital because it will:
We are moving from a world where information is ubiquitous to a world where knowledge is ubiquitous. Now is the time to be making sloppy mistakes. Don't let perfection stop you from learning how to make stuff that is going to be good enough.
If your work consists of repetitive tasks that follow step-by-step recipes, that's going to be a tough gig going forward. Long-term, there will be new opportunities, but you need to be experimenting now to be in a position to take advantage of them.
You will find a list of the tools I've been experimenting with in the show notes.
https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/nooldeimgcodenhncjkjagbmppdinhfe?utm_source=item-share-cb
If you build anything interesting with these tools, please let me know! I'd love to hear about your own experiments.
Jonathan Wagner, CEO of Scribble Maps, is back on the podcast, and this time we're talking about Scribble—an AI agent he's built into his platform. Not a chatbot, an agent. There's a difference, and we get into that.
https://mapscaping.com/podcast/the-business-of-web-maps/
So far, Scribble has access to 140 tools. It can view your map, select tools, build plugins, fetch data, and handle onboarding and customer education.
But here's the thing—should you care?
I think you should, because we're going to see more and more of these things. And whether you like it or not, for a lot of people, this is going to be the way they interact with geospatial data. I don't think we can put the genie back in the bottle. I personally, I'm not entirely sure I would if I could.
Yeah, sure, there's a lot of uncertainty around what these things can do and how they're going to impact us. I get that. I feel it too. But we can't afford to stick our heads in the sand and pretend like it's not happening.
In this conversation, Jonathan walks through why he built Scribble (spoiler: his wife was expecting and he needed to solve an onboarding problem), the real risks of adding AI to your product, and the technical decisions behind using Gemini over OpenAI. We also talk about privacy concerns, the Model Context Protocol (MCP), and what this all means for the future of GIS.
We touch on the QGIS MCP server, the democratization of mapping tools, and when maps aren't actually the answer. It's an honest look at where we are with AI agents in geospatial, from someone who's actually building one.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban
https://github.com/jjsantos01/qgis_mcp
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